House of El vs House of Vel

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, he used it quite a few times during Thunderbolts... To pretty extreme degrees, in fact. Owning Purple Man (amped by Overmind) comes to mind.

He can see things happen before they happen, so he's pretty 'fast' in that sense.

But if you're trying to say that Superman would just "wtfspeedblitz1111!!!1" Genis in the first picosecond of the battle as though it were an 'in character' tactic for Supes, you'd be hard-pressed to prove he could incapacitate Genis before Genis mindraped him, BFR'd him, or exploited one of his weaknesses.

I'm not opposed to the idea of Supes beating him, but Genis is just one of those hax characters that're hard to make a case against--especially with less-versatile characters.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman takes the destruction of krypton point blank while weakened. AOS 461.

Again how knowing something previously is going to help him when he doesn't have the reflexes to react on it. Just a remainder how fast superman is

You want to argue that genis is going to use his CA in a way he's never done before, cool. Don't balk up at the idea of superman using his speed in a manner he's done countless times.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You try that everytime zoom or flash are in the thread though

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm not trying to say that superman wins here but to say that he's just going to win using cosmic awareness to create something which isn't even insta-win against superman is a bit of stretch.

Again how knowing something previously is going to help him when he doesn't have the reflexes to react on it. Just a remainder how fast superman is

You want to argue that genis is going to use his CA in a way he's never done before, cool. Don't balk up at the idea of superman using his speed in a manner he's done countless times.

Mindrape and BFR, however, are tactics Genis has used on panel against opponents. Multiple times. Either of those would be enough here. Happy?

Originally posted by Galan007
I only argue what they HAVE done on panel.

😂 Scans from the 80's? Nice. Anyway, if you're going to throw a hissy-fit over it, I won't argue weakness exploitation (even though it would be WELL within Genis' ability.)

Mindrape and BFR, however, are tactics Genis has used on panel against opponents. Multiple times. Either of those would be enough here. Happy?

Like I said, weakness exploitation isn't the only option Genis has--it was just the first that came to mind. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
Like I said, weakness exploitation isn't the only option Genis has--it was just the first that came to mind. 👆

If it makes you feel better. 😉

Originally posted by Galan007
If it makes you feel better. 😉

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Originally posted by Galan007
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House of Vell.