Chaos King vs DC Team

Originally posted by -Pr-
Does the Chaos King have free will?

Also, what do said limitations have to do with the ALE?

How do you define "free will" in the case of a being that 'existed' as the Void before creation. He was around before sentient beings came into existence (this would include abstract and conceptual beings). He seemed obsessed with undoing creation and only stopped when it seemed like he got his wish. I wouldn't call that free will because he couldn't stop himself and didn't stop himself until he thought he succeeded in absorbing/erasing/destroying everything. So no, I wouldn't say he has free will.

ZopZop, by your reasoning, that CK was the void before creation, does it put him above TOAA? You are making it sound like CK is unbeatable.

I mean Hercules almost reached his level by the use of common "God Artifacts"right?

CK ultimately has free will.

i think representing anti-everything > ALE

but if the team somehow hurts CK i don't see why it wouldn't work on him, IF it's able to work (a big if). but they're not going to just get close and start talking to gain victory here. CK being the abstract that he is, may be able to shrug off ALE because when you add it up...the literal aspect of nothing outweighs anti-life. for all we know CK should shrug off ALE like it's jibberish or nonsense.

Originally posted by Diesldude
ZopZop, by your reasoning, that CK was the void before creation, does it put him above TOAA? You are making it sound like CK is unbeatable.

Wrong? Where did you get that idea from? The LT, Protege, Scathan, Classic Infinity Gauntlet, the Infinites (possibly), tHotU, and more I'm probably missing are all more powerful than Chaos King.

TOAA doesn't even factor into this because nothing in Marvel can challenge it's power.

I mean Hercules almost reached his level by the use of common "God Artifacts"right?

Yup, thanks to sh|t-tastic "writing" it seems Marvel's Earth pantheons apparently have items lying around their realms that if combined allows one to ascend into high abstract territory (Super God Herc was powerful enough to undo the damage to 98.76% of the universe/multiverse, sure it burned out his power, but that's a damn impressive feat). Don't blame me, blame the writer.

And the beauty of this was, CK was STILL more powerful than Super God Herc.

Originally posted by Diesldude
ZopZop, by your reasoning, that CK was the void before creation, does it put him above TOAA? You are making it sound like CK is unbeatable.

I mean Hercules almost reached his level by the use of common "God Artifacts"right?

You can tell someone hasn't read tie-ins and follow ups to the story.As for CK being above TOAA, answer is no.I wouldn't put CK above LT.But zop's point is clear that it took a lot of team effort for CK to be beaten through BFR.As for the tie-ins, here's where destiny stated what was needed to beat CK.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/TOAAinvolvedinstoppingCK.jpg?t=1303206697

The ancient entities of creation are awakened by the dead X-men.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/AncientEntitiesofCreation.jpg?t=1303261666

Now you can make your conclusions between this options on what the Primordial Gods of creation did in Chaos War Issue 5.

A.They weakened the Chaos King or
B.They super-amped SuperGod Hercules or
C.Both option A and B

ALE ftw!

Originally posted by Igniz
You can tell someone hasn't read tie-ins and follow ups to the story.As for CK being above TOAA, answer is no.I wouldn't put CK above LT.But zop's point is clear that it took a lot of team effort for CK to be beaten through BFR.As for the tie-ins, here's where destiny stated what was needed to beat CK.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/TOAAinvolvedinstoppingCK.jpg?t=1303206697

The ancient entities of creation are awakened by the dead X-men.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/AncientEntitiesofCreation.jpg?t=1303261666

Now you can make your conclusions between this options on what the Primordial Gods of creation did in Chaos War Issue 5.

A.They weakened the Chaos King or
B.They super-amped SuperGod Hercules or
C.Both option A and B

There is nothing wrong with that. Who readys every comic in print, I know i don't and couldn't even if I tried. I read choas war but wasn't going to waste my time trying to tie every loose end. If they ran into comics i don't read, I don't consider it a loss (especially for a crappy arc like CW); but thanks for the info, that's one reason i hang out here, good source of info without having to read every comic.

CK treats DS like Zeus

Originally posted by Jynocidus
CK treats DS like Zeus

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As crappy as the Chaos War was, i think CK was really a multiversal beast.

I have to go with him here.