Black Lantern Kal-L vs Thor

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Originally posted by abhilegend
This isn't herochat.
And it isn't cbr. It's somewhere in the middle.

Originally posted by zopzop
Which part of this is false?

IIRC Red Lanterns were only able to destroy the bodies of the fodder at a very rapid rate. They did not kill or sever I connection with the BL ring.

As for Mogo..

Unless you think Thor can replicate this, his approach is unique and irreplicable. Mogo can manipulate his gravity and his body (planet) at will. He used his gravity to suck all the Black Lanterns off Oa and absorb them into himself where he would be "sifted into atoms" and "superheated and prevented from reforming" for eternity. Thor is not doing that.

Originally posted by Cogito
IIRC Red Lanterns were only able to destroy the bodies of the fodder at a very rapid rate. They did not kill or sever I connection with the BL ring.

As for Mogo..

Unless you think Thor can replicate this, his approach is unique and irreplicable. Mogo can manipulate his gravity and his body (planet) at will. He used his gravity to suck all the Black Lanterns off Oa and absorb them into himself where he would be "sifted into atoms" and "superheated and prevented from reforming" for eternity. Thor is not doing that.


1. His hammer is lethal to the undead.
2. His hammer can gather and control souls.
3. He has been shown to absorb and control pretty much ANY energy he wants to.
I don't know. To say that he just can't do anything effective against BL Supes does not seem accurate.

And, there are weaknesses with the Black Ring.

And, with Nekron being a "mystical entity" the power seems to be right up Thor's alley.

I am just not seeing were all of the rude knowing condescension is coming from.

All in all, very weak arguments against Thor so far.

All i know is Mogo is hardcore

Originally posted by iceman24567
All i know is Mogo is hardcore
Yeah.

He seemed a little bit Too OK with the whole "souls burning at my center" thing. 😑

Kal-L win this..Thor has no way of putting him down for long..

Originally posted by Horrificus
Yeah.

He seemed a little bit Too OK with the whole "souls burning at my center" thing. 😑

He's just oozing with gangsta

Originally posted by Slaanesh
Kal-L win this..Thor has no way of putting him down for long..
In the words of Vincent Vega: "That's a Bold Statement."

Originally posted by Horrificus
In the words of Vincent Vega: That's a Bold Statement.

at least i admit Thor can put him down..just not for long..

Originally posted by Slaanesh
at least i admit Thor can put him down..just not for long..

That's not good enough. 😮

Originally posted by Horrificus
1. His hammer is lethal to the undead.

To vampires, not zombies.

2. His hammer can gather and control souls.

BLs doesn't have souls.

3. He has been shown to absorb and control pretty much ANY energy he wants to.

No limit fallacy. Show me thor manipulating lets say gravity.

I don't know. To say that he just can't do anything effective against BL Supes does not seem accurate.

Its accurate.

And, there are weaknesses with the Black Ring.

Like?

And, with Nekron being a "mystical entity" the power seems to be right up Thor's alley.

There is nothing mystical about nekron. In fact magic was in general useless against black lanterns.

I am just not seeing were all of the rude knowing condescension is coming from.

I'm just not seeing why this thread isn't closed for spite.

All in all, very weak arguments against Thor so far.

You try to spin nekron as a mystical entity and then this argument.
facepalm

Originally posted by carver9
That's not good enough. 😮

well..that's all i can give..Thor is not beating a Supes that can regenerate at will..

Originally posted by Horrificus
1. His hammer is lethal to the undead.
2. His hammer can gather and control souls.
3. He has been shown to absorb and control pretty much ANY energy he wants to.
I don't know. To say that he just can't do anything effective against BL Supes does not seem accurate.

1&2. The Black Ring is their life/death "energy". I don't know how to put that to words, but it's the same concept as a Red Ring replacing a Red Lantern's heart.
3. No, it hasn't. And certainly not in any capacity. He can, and has, manipulated external energy. Other than the Juggernaut incident, which as been addressed to death in this thread and proven to be not applicable here, when has Thor manipulated someone's internal energy in a capacity like this?

Originally posted by Horrificus
And, there are weaknesses with the Black Ring.

And, with Nekron being a "mystical entity" the power seems to be right up Thor's alley.

I am just not seeing were all of the rude knowing condescension is coming from.

All in all, very weak arguments against Thor so far.


There are no weaknesses of a Black Ring that are available to Thor. He can't manipulate multiple emotional spectrum energies any more than I can. He can't sift Kal-L's body into atoms and continuously superheat it at all, let alone long enough for a forum win.

Thor fans are still ignoring the fact that this is Kal-L, not some undead human fodder. Kal-L would give Thor a run for his money on his own, let alone with a ridiculous amp like a BL ring.

And lol at Nekron being a mystical entity, as if that has ever been said/implied or as if he's remotely in Thor's ballpark.

Surtur with Twilight is a "mystical entity". He'd ragestomp Thor's alley for shits and giggles.

Originally posted by abhilegend
To vampires, not zombies.

BLs doesn't have souls.

No limit fallacy. Show me thor manipulating lets say gravity.

Its accurate.

Like?

There is nothing mystical about nekron. In fact magic was in general useless against black lanterns.

I'm just not seeing why this thread isn't closed for spite.

You try to spin nekron as a mystical entity and then this argument.
facepalm

Get back to you...

Actually I'm almost positive Thor has controlled gravity with his hammer. But yeah, this thread should be closed as massive spite. You might as well make a Superboy Prime vs Thor thread.

Originally posted by Cogito
And lol at Nekron being a mystical entity, as if that has ever been said/implied or as if he's remotely in Thor's ballpark.

Surtur with Twilight is a "mystical entity". He'd ragestomp Thor's alley for shits and giggles.

Please don't tell me you are comparing Nekron to Surtur with Twilight (s super skyfather level being)?!

Why wouldn't he be?

Kal-L.

1. His hammer is lethal to the undead.
2. His hammer can gather and control souls.

Originally posted by Cogito
1&2. The Black Ring is their life/death "energy". I don't know how to put that to words, but it's the same concept as a Red Ring replacing a Red Lantern's heart.
I noticed that you can't put it into words. So, you obviously win that argument. 🙄 Your response is iron-clad! Even though you didn't address my points 1 and 2.
So, if Thor were to gather Kal-L's soul and shove it back into his corpse, that wouldn't do anything?

3. He has been shown to absorb and control pretty much ANY energy he wants to.

3. No, it hasn't. And certainly not in any capacity. He can, and has, manipulated external energy. Other than the Juggernaut incident, which as been addressed to death in this thread and proven to be not applicable here, when has Thor manipulated someone's internal energy in a capacity like this?
Yes, it has.

Here are some energy and magic manipulation feats I was able to put together WITHOUT even having to dig into my own stash:

1. Thor's hammer absorbed the energy of a Null Bomb that was capable of destroying an entire Galaxy and turn it to Cosmic energy and Re-Ignite a Dead Sun.
2. In Avengers-#171, from a DISTANCE, Thor absorbed Ultron’s entire energy source with just a single blast from his hammer.
3. Power Cosmic (Silver Surfer-#4)
4. Thor completely absorbed Sky-Walker’s Cosmic raging Tempest into his hammer-Thor-#305.
5. Magnetism (Thor#-387) where Thor absorbed a portion of the Planet of Pangoria’s Magnetic energy.
6. Magneto’s Personal Magnetic Field-JIM-#109.
7. Mystical- specifically, when he absorbed a significant mystical portion of EVERY Earth’s PANTHEON (Thor#301).
8. Pluto’s Deadly (mystical) Fire-Flame-#Thor-#223.
9. Thor absorbed the Electromagnetic energies of the Celestial Mother-ship with such ease- see Thor#288.
10. In Avengers #70 when Thor reverses the Atomic process that gave Hyperion his powers, and reduced him to the size of an Ant.
B) Thor Annual#16 (Beta Ray Bill vs. Ego) In this instance, BRB was in the verge of drawing out all of Ego’s Magnetic Polarities to outer space, and Ego happens to be an entire Planet.

Get back to you on this:

There are no weaknesses of a Black Ring that are available to Thor.

Nekron is the embodiment of nothing. The original absence. Death. And, he rules a type of hell dimension. He is not a guardian or anything native to this universe.

And lol at Nekron being a mystical entity, as if that has ever been said/implied or as if he's remotely in Thor's ballpark.

Surtur with Twilight is a "mystical entity". He'd ragestomp Thor's alley for shits and giggles.
[/QUOTE] Means nothing. Nobody said that Thor could fight Nekron. But, if Nekron's powers are mystical in nature, that is in Thor's ball-field. Especially with Nekron's need of souls as fuel.

Finally-
Is this Thor Controlling THE White Light and Claiming/Keeping/Protecting the Soul of Darkoth?:

😄

I don't think that's exactly similar. Nor do I think Thor will keep Kal down for long. And he's certainly not going to overpower him.