Originally posted by quanchi112
You made the claim he can only do so to a magical being so the onus is on you.
Quanchi is correct.
If anybody would like to say that the Black Ring power is exempt from Thor's ability to block it from it's source, they would have to show some sort of proof WHY that is. Otherwise, it is just conjecture.
This is especially true if there is evidence showing that Thor is capable of blocking different types of energy, besides simply "mystical" in nature.
Such as when Jake stated the following:
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He's done it to Firelord before.
But, other examples would go far to seal the deal and settle the argument.
Simply said-
Multiple examples of Thor blocking various forms of energy. > Zero examples of Black Ring energy being exempt from being blocked from it's source.
But, I have a LOT of questions for the folks that have a lot more knowledge about the power rings of various "Lantern Corps".
Could you guys help?
Next, "The Nature of the Black Rings":
Originally posted by Cogito
Lanterns aren't drawing their power from the central battery continuously, they just charge their rings once in a while.But regardless of how exactly it works, the central batter definitely doesn't continuously feed the rings power,
so cutting it off would, at best, only prevent the ring from being recharged if it ran out of energy, which it won't here. (Like that run on sentence?)
Cogito-
How do you know they aren't drawing from the central battery constantly?
Why do they have to charge / recharge their rings?
Why would it run out of energy?
Why WON'T it run out of energy here?
Originally posted by Cogito
You're assuming Black Lantern rings work the same way as Green Lantern rings, which is absurd because they share so little in the way of anything other than being rings.Green Lantern Rings create constructs, BL rings don't.
BL rings animate the dead, GL rings don't.
BL rings feed on emotion, GL rings are empowered by willpower.
GL rings have been shown to need recharging, BL rings haven't.
GL rings are powered by an abstract entity which represents willpower, BL rings are powered by the Anti-Monitor who represents nothing related to emotions.
etc etc.They're totally different. The way they use power, or don't, is presumably totally different. You can't assume that a Black Lantern ring needs to be recharged, that it recharges the same way as a GL ring, or that the charge lasts for the same amount of time as a GL ring.
Come back with facts, not supposition and your best troll impersonation.
- GL rings have animated the dead.
- I thought the whole "Ring Thing" is about the different colors representing the "Emotional Spectrum". I have seen this phrased used.
- Scar made a big deal out of hiding and keeping safe the Central Black Battery. Why?
- Doesn't the Anti-Monitor represent the absence of emotion, the way that the color Black represents the absence of color? Which is why the Black Rings feed on emotion and NEED it.
Originally posted by Horrificusthe hell? i don't think you people understand what 'proving a negative' means...
Quanchi is correct.
If anybody would like to say that the Black Ring power is exempt from Thor's ability to block it from it's source, they would have to show some sort of proof WHY that is. Otherwise, it is just conjecture.
if your assuming that thor can negate a black lantern's energies, then you need to provide proof of him canceling out an energy akin to antimatter, or the energies of death. unless you can provide that kind of proof, then there is no reason to assume thor CAN cancel out those specific types of energy.
assuming he can do so without any kind of proof to support your stance. now THAT is "conjecture".
Originally posted by Horrificus
How do you know they aren't drawing from the central battery constantly?
Originally posted by Horrificus
Why do they have to charge / recharge their rings?
Originally posted by HorrificusNever been shown to have run out of energy.
Why would it run out of energy?
Originally posted by Horrificus
Why WON'T it run out of energy here?
Originally posted by HorrificusNot post-crisis.
- GL rings have animated the dead.
Originally posted by HorrificusIt is. Black (Death) is outside the emotional spectrum and feeds on the emotional spectrum.
- I thought the whole "Ring Thing" is about the different colors representing the "Emotional Spectrum". I have seen this phrased used.
Originally posted by HorrificusUnknown for sure.
- Scar made a big deal out of hiding and keeping safe the Central Black Battery. Why?
Originally posted by HorrificusThe Anti-Monitor may represent the absence of emotion, though I don't recall ever reading that, but the Black Rings don't feed on emotion because of him.
- Doesn't the Anti-Monitor represent the absence of emotion, the way that the color Black represents the absence of color? Which is why the Black Rings feed on emotion and NEED it.
Originally posted by HorrificusAre you going to report people for agreeing with me too. 😂
[B]Quanchi is correct.
If anybody would like to say that the Black Ring power is exempt from Thor's ability to block it from it's source, they would have to show some sort of proof WHY that is. Otherwise, it is just conjecture.This is especially true if there is evidence showing that Thor is capable of blocking different types of energy, besides simply "mystical" in nature.
Such as when Jake stated the following:But, other examples would go far to seal the deal and settle the argument.
Simply said-
Multiple examples of Thor blocking various forms of energy. > Zero examples of Black Ring energy being exempt from being blocked from it's source.[/B]
Originally posted by Galan007Yeah, I know galan just like I knew you wouldn't have time for a battlezone. You're a whiny poster. And look other people agree with me so keep on reporting someone for disagreeing with your viewpoint, brah.
😂You're opting to ignore what the comics itself blatantly tells us, and are replacing it with your own conjecture instead. That, my friend, defines TROLLING. If you don't like the fact that I reported you, then I'd suggest you stop TROLLING... If you'd like to keep up with badgering posts like this, though, I'll have no problem reporting you again. I have no time for your BS these days. 🙂
Good point.
Originally posted by quanchi112This is strike 2, one more strike and I'll report you for bashing.
Yeah, I know galan just like I knew you wouldn't have time for a battlezone. You're a whiny poster. And look other people agree with me so keep on reporting someone for disagreeing with your viewpoint, brah.
Like I said: no time for your BS. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007You called me idiotic and have already reported me. Either leave the I am going to report you nonsense out of this and debate respectfully or don't. I told you why I disagreed. Another poster agreed with my take. That's what happens on message boards. Cbr has mod enforced opinions which kinda killed their board.
This is strike 2, one more strike and I'll report you for bashing.Like I said: no time for your BS. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112I posted a scan that literally TELLS US the specific type of energy Thor negated in that instance (ie. mystical.) Instead of accepting something blatantly written in black and white, you opted to make shit up and act like Thor's cone negated all types of energy, despite nothing of the sort being alluded to. That IS stupid. Pretty sure Pr and Bada would agree.
You called me idiotic and have already reported me. Either leave the I am going to report you nonsense out of this and debate respectfully or don't. I told you why I disagreed. Another poster agreed with my take. That's what happens on message boards. Cbr has mod enforced opinions which kinda killed their board.
If you can't prove your stance with incontrovertible evidence (which you've yet to do) then accept it and move on. Don't argue just to argue. That's called trolling.
Wow, so much drama in this thread.
Anyway, Quan and Jake were right. Just because Thor SPECIFICALLY cut off mystic energy with the vortex he used vs Juggernaut, doesn't mean that's all Mjolnir is capable of negating. The reason why he negated MYSTIC energy is because that's the Juggernaut's power source.
Here he is draining the Power Cosmic from Firelord :
http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc132&image=80109_thorfin6.jpg
Thor wins.
Originally posted by zopzop
Wow, so much drama in this thread.Anyway, Quan and Jake were right. Just because Thor SPECIFICALLY cut off mystic energy with the vortex he used vs Juggernaut, doesn't mean that's all Mjolnir is capable of negating. The reason why he negated MYSTIC energy is because that's the Juggernaut's power source.
Here he is draining the Power Cosmic from Firelord :
http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc132&image=80109_thorfin6.jpgThor wins.
Your own scan just proved that his strategy is stupid.
Not only did it not cut Firelord off, he easily stopped whatever effect it may have been having.
Originally posted by Galan007
😂You're opting to ignore what the comics itself blatantly tells us, and are replacing it with your own conjecture instead. That, my friend, defines TROLLING. If you don't like the fact that I reported you, then I'd suggest you stop TROLLING... If you'd like to keep up with badgering posts like this, though, I'll have no problem reporting you again. I have no time for your BS these days. 🙂
Good point.
I thought you put him on ignore? :/
Originally posted by zopzop😂
Wow, so much drama in this thread.Anyway, Quan and Jake were right. Just because Thor SPECIFICALLY cut off mystic energy with the vortex he used vs Juggernaut, doesn't mean that's all Mjolnir is capable of negating. The reason why he negated MYSTIC energy is because that's the Juggernaut's power source.
Here he is draining the Power Cosmic from Firelord :
http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc132&image=80109_thorfin6.jpgThor wins.
What Cog said.
Originally posted by Prep-ManI did. But then I decided to give him another chance. Bad decision.
I thought you put him on ignore? :/
He's on ignore now, though. 🙂
Originally posted by Cogito
Your own scan just proved that his strategy is stupid.Not only did it not cut Firelord off, he easily stopped whatever effect it may have been having.
Reading comprehension fail. I didn't say it was a good strategy, I said he CAN do it. Not that he should do it. Plus he doesn't even NEED to do it to beat BL Kal-l.
Originally posted by zopzop
Wow, so much drama in this thread.Anyway, Quan and Jake were right. Just because Thor SPECIFICALLY cut off mystic energy with the vortex he used vs Juggernaut, doesn't mean that's all Mjolnir is capable of negating. The reason why he negated MYSTIC energy is because that's the Juggernaut's power source.
Here he is draining the Power Cosmic from Firelord :
http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc132&image=80109_thorfin6.jpgThor wins.
For the record, as a pretty well informed Thor reader myself, I'm totally against Thor's energy absorption abilities effecting a Black Lantern's ring or their Central Power Battery. But yeah, Thor isn't limited to absorbing or cancelling out mystical energy. Not by a long shot. Generally, if it's energy - whether it's magical, cosmic, electrical, a form of radiation, magnetic, etc - Mjolnir can absorb it and drain it. But I don't see Thor messing around with what makes the Black Lantern Corps tick.
At best, you could probably argue that Mjolnir could work alongside other emotional colors or temporarily put down a Black Lantern with intense light or just BFR them, but it becomes somewhat plot dependent.
