Which is the better show: Naruto/shippuuden vs Avatar: TLA/LoK
Basically this is a thread devoted to figuring out which -- at this point legendary series is the better of the two.
Just the naruto animated series because it has to be balanced as much as possible.
(Characters, story, action, etc are things that should be criteria for this.)
I love them both but....which one is the best?
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I think it's closer than the two above me probably do, since I do like Naruto action more, but yeah Avatar wins. A dumb ending does not compare to the mountain of filler episodes.
Yeah, I don't think it is very close at all. For me, Avatar has got the better plot and pacing, a higher number of interesting and developed characters, and better humor. Naruto fights are more fun to watch though, and while I do find Avatar's history and mythology extremely cool, I think Naruto's background mythos has the edge right now.
Note that I am comparing it to the manga, not the Anime, which I find to be worse than the Manga in most areas except fight choreography.
And of course, female fighters are actually incredibly badass in Avatar. 313
Originally posted by Q99
Avatar the Last Airbender is one of the more tightly designed shows. In the entire three seasons, which episodes are worth losing?Great Divide and... that's about it.
In Season 1, there's "The Warriors of Kyoshi", "Jet", "The Great Divide", and The Fortuneteller". 'Jet' gave us Jet and the Freedom fighters, but Jet was not important to the plot.
For that last one, while it does hint at the Aang-Katara pairing, nothing else important happens iirc.
Season 2, there's really only "Avatar Day" that I can think of, though it was still an episode I really liked.
Season 3, there's "The Headband", "The Painted Lady", and "Nightmares and Daydreams" which was mind-numbingly stupid.
Given that Avatar only really started following a serialized format somewhere in Season 2, a fair number of episodes from Season 1 weren't very important to the characters or to the overarching plot.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelYeah, I suppose it is fairly close.
I'll agree with everything you said except characters. Mostly cause several characters in Avatar were hit and miss with me. But that's merely a personal preference. And it's not like I like every Naruto character lol. In that regard, I personally consider them relatively close.
The problem with Naruto is that characters who are not Naruto or Sasuke tend to get tossed aside for a long time after they've gotten some development and a flashback or two.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yeah, I suppose it is fairly close.
I think I like more Avatar characters than I do Naruto ones, and I think the Aang-Zuko dynamic was far better than the Naruto-Sasuke one has been, even though Naruto and Sasuke are better as characters.The problem with Naruto is that characters who are not Naruto or Sasuke tend to get tossed aside for a long time after they've gotten some development and a flashback or two.
Eh, I haven't kept count. But of those four, if I listed my favorites it would go Zuko>Naruto/Sasuke>Aang. I would like Aang a lot more were it not for the end of the series. Though I saw the relationships as being roughly equal. I think it's hard to compare though cause Sasuke and Naruto are rivals while Aang and Zuko...well, it's complicated.
Eh, I think that is more true in part 2 than 1. Which makes sense because part 2 is about Naruto trying to bring Sasuke back. But eh.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Eh, I haven't kept count. But of those four, if I listed my favorites it would go Zuko>Naruto/Sasuke>Aang. I would like Aang a lot more were it not for the end of the series. Though I saw the relationships as being roughly equal. I think it's hard to compare though cause Sasuke and Naruto are rivals while Aang and Zuko...well, it's complicated.Eh, I think that is more true in part 2 than 1. Which makes sense because part 2 is about Naruto trying to bring Sasuke back. But eh.
My favourites are Zuko > Sasuke = Aang > Naruto, but I do think Naruto and Sasuke are better characters.
Yeah, but in Part 2, the NS relationship has been extremely one-sided. It was great in Part 1, which is one reason why I think the VotE fight was an excellent ending to Part 1, but it has fizzled out until recent events.
Part 2 has been going for on longer than Part 1 has. 313
Also, you aren't using 'eh' correctly. It has to appear at the end of your sentences, like it is at the end of your post. 😛
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Imo, naruto is better at creating emotional moments, there a ton in part one but the death of jiraya and naruto moping around after......man tears
I can see that, though I would argue it's something Avatar can do as well, particularly with Zuko. "Zuko Alone" is a very emotional episode.
Avatar.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
In Season 1, there's "The Warriors of Kyoshi", "Jet", "The Great Divide", and The Fortuneteller". 'Jet' gave us Jet and the Freedom fighters, but Jet was not important to the plot.
For that last one, while it does hint at the Aang-Katara pairing, nothing else important happens iirc.
Both Jet and the Kyoshi Warriors become very important to the plot later on and keep showing up in later episodes, so those actually are important episodes. In particular the Kyoshi Warriors since they're who find Appa and they're who allow Azula to take over Ba Sing Se and since Suki arguably becomes a main character and full-fledged part of the Gaang in season 3.
Double poast.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Eh, I haven't kept count. But of those four, if I listed my favorites it would go Zuko>Naruto/Sasuke>Aang. I would like Aang a lot more were it not for the end of the series. Though I saw the relationships as being roughly equal. I think it's hard to compare though cause Sasuke and Naruto are rivals while Aang and Zuko...well, it's complicated.Eh, I think that is more true in part 2 than 1. Which makes sense because part 2 is about Naruto trying to bring Sasuke back. But eh.
While I agree that the end was a major cop-out and a complete dethroning moment of suck for Aang, at least Aang didn't hyperventilate because his boyfriend doesn't love him anymore . That moment of Naruto being a gigantic throbbing pussy completely overshadows the end of Avatar imo.