Which is the better show: Naruto/shippuuden vs Avatar: TLA/LoK

Started by NemeBro8 pages

It's more the "daddy only acts like he cares about me when I act like a sociopath but I know he doesn't and my mommy thinks I'm a monster (In my mind)" crap.

Also that the only 3 people she kind of cared about stabbed her in the back in rapid succession.

Including her lesbian lover.

Originally posted by NemeBro
It's more the "daddy only acts like he cares about me when I act like a sociopath but I know he doesn't and my mommy thinks I'm a monster (In my mind)" crap.

Because of the two of them, Ozai certainly preferred Zuko. Obviously. And since the mommy issues seem to be a rationalization on her part to justify her psycho, it's hardly sympathetic. It's just what one would expect.

It seemed to me that Ozai didn't give a toss about either of them.

Well no, obviously not. But between banishing his son and branding him a traitor with a scar that will stay with him for his entire life, it's really hard for me to feel bad for the kid he made Fire Lord. I mean, boo hoo he'll be something else above Fire Lord. Azula has been his number 2 this whole time so I don't see why this is different.

It's her voice, it's all about her voice...that and the fact that she was awesome enough to take her own city without really doing much on her end.

Yeah Azula's awesome!

Being made Fire Lord was like a slap in the face after he declared himself Pheonix King. She's obviously starting to crack up and being made to stay at home seems like a calculated show of his lack of trust for her, as shown by her getting hurt and angry with him for it. She even says 'you can't treat me like Zuko', and we all know how he treated Zuko. Then he makes her Fire Lord and she thinks hes actually rewarding her only for him to reveal that he just made the position completely meaningless. So yes, she's sitting in the palace twidling her thumbs, stewing in her thoughts and made to feel utterly useless, inadequate and dejected. You could even speculate that with her 'you can't treat me like Zuko', her fathers abandoment of her and her sudden spike in paranoia that she's starting to worry that he really will just throw her aside soon. As Nemebro said I think she probably realised at that point that he didn't give a **** about her if she wasn't usefull.

So she's betrayed by Zuko, Ty Lee and Mai and feels betrayed by her father and it starts to go back in her mind to her belief that nobody can love her because she's a monster and that everyone will turn on her because of it. IMO its a really interesting and sympathetic insight into whats almost self-loathing and makes for a very believable breakdown when she can't cope.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Because of the two of them, Ozai certainly preferred Zuko. Obviously. And since the mommy issues seem to be a rationalization on her part to justify her psycho, it's hardly sympathetic. It's just what one would expect.
Zuko preferred Azula in the same way someone prefers a sword forged from steel over one forged from iron.

That doesn't change the fact that she wanted and needed to feel loved by her parents when she was a little girl, but from her point of view got no love from either (Granted, Ursa did love her, but due to lolOzai Azula never got to be shown it).

Also yeah, self-loathing and regret over what she let dear old dad turn her into.

None of that makes me sympathize with Azula.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Sometimes I think I'm the only one that doesn't give a shit about Azula's "Boo hoo mommy doesn't love me" crap.

Nah, I don't give a shit about it either.
But you're probably the only one that does not give sympathize with her when she snaps.

On an unrelated note, Toph >>> Azula.

Toph >>> all the characters.

Only Iroh rivals her.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Nah, I don't give a shit about it either.
But you're probably the only one that does not give sympathize with her when she snaps.

On an unrelated note, Toph >>> Azula.

Good.
She made her bed, she can lie in it. If she got better, yay for her. If not, oh well.

Toph is awesome.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Toph >>> all the characters.

Only Iroh rivals her.

I agree with Toph = Iroh >>> the rest.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
^ I agree with Toph = Iroh >>> the rest.

Agreed, but I still sympathize with her. Meh.

Yeah, she is.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Good.
She made her bed, she can lie in it. If she got better, yay for her. If not, oh well.

Toph is awesome.

So cold! XD

You give Sasuke more sympathy than Azula, whats up wid dat!?

Originally posted by Nephthys
So cold! XD

You give Sasuke more sympathy than Azula, whats up wid dat!?

Sasuke is basically the universes chew toy at this point. I can't really help but feel sorry for him.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Fanboi.

You lot have seen Avatar: Book 4, right?

It answers a lot of questions about Azula and so on.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
My taste is bad and I am a closet Uchihasexual.

I fixed that for you.

AuraAngel says
Because he has gotten passed the point of not giving a ****.
Assuming he destroyed Konoha, he wouldn't stop.
He'd find something else.
And then maybe someone will finally put this poor kid out of his misery.
NemeBro says
... So what you are saying is, you believe he would continue killing everyone because three guys killed his clan, and that makes him more sympathetic than Azula?
... You're a very scary person

Compared to Azula who suggests burning down an entire continent of people, killing far more than Sasuke's little tirade would.

Keep in mind, Sasuke does his evil things out of revenge. Flimsy but it's a reason. Azula does bad things because daddy "made" her a psycho.