THANOS: Under Trans........

The only way Surfer can give Thanos some nasty competion is for him to change his attitude. Do you recall when Silver Surfer was talking to his dark conscience. It told Norrin that with his power set, he can become a god. So I was thinking what if Surfer was evil and has teh same goals similar to Thanos.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Not your typical thread but I was having a discussion with a friend about this earlier and i think it could be answered here. Her argument was that Silver Surfer should be able to neutralize him given his powerset and abilities but is consistently made his b1tch.

What character under trans could effectively neutralize Thanos?

No outside help, no prep, fighting to the ABSOLUTE BEST of his/her abilities on a random encounter.

Who if anyone can put him down the Titan ???
Who can get 5/10?

My problems are two fold...

1. His assertion that 4th wall garbage is always on and viewed as a legit tactic on this forum. He has reinforced his belief that it's always on by default, which is actually the opposite of how people view it.

2. IF he believe it's always on and even cited it as an example to defeat thanos... then we must draw a few conclusions from that... First, since she-hulk could never defeat Thanos other than 4th wall and has been defeated by less than Thanos level power... He must clearly believe in said tactis as legit. Since he views it as legit.. why wouldn't you take the next logical steps and say.. well if she could defeat Thanos using said technique.. she could also defeat Galactus using said technique.... and thus illustrate the stupidity of that line of thinking.

I'm honestly unclear how ANY of the above wasn't crystal clear.. especially since he affirmed his beliefs that it's a legit tactic to use and is on by default in all forum fights.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
There are other ways to beat him....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
4th wall breakage. She Hulk has stepped out of the panel, then tore the comic up, defeating her opponent. She's burnt the comic. Animal Man shrank the comic box around his opponent.

All occurrences have occurred in canon, 616 (or main DC) realities. Sometimes more than once. Buddy is a bit iffy though, will need to check.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Would/could Howard the Duck do it? Not sure of his 4th wall combat feats. I've never seen the Joker using it, nor Deadpool really, so have discounted them....

This is certainly fun - I'm assuming everyone is agreeing with me, and have moved on to flaming each other lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We ignoring 4th wall attacks? :-p

Originally posted by NemeBro
I have to wonder if any of you are literate.

DarkSaint's examples were of relatively infrequently used but established abilities of characters, not of She Hulk breaking the fourth wall.

Dumbasses.

Reading comprehension is lacking sometimes on here

Originally posted by Nihilist
He had the gem when Thanos killed him.

did u read the op

Originally posted by Sin I AM
did u read the op

Amazo.

Originally posted by zopzop

Carry on.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
My problems are two fold...

1. His assertion that 4th wall garbage is always on and viewed as a legit tactic on this forum. He has reinforced his belief that it's always on by default, which is actually the opposite of how people view it.

2. IF he believe it's always on and even cited it as an example to defeat thanos... then we must draw a few conclusions from that... First, since she-hulk could never defeat Thanos other than 4th wall and has been defeated by less than Thanos level power... He must clearly believe in said tactis as legit. Since he views it as legit.. why wouldn't you take the next logical steps and say.. well if she could defeat Thanos using said technique.. she could also defeat Galactus using said technique.... and thus illustrate the stupidity of that line of thinking.

I'm honestly unclear how ANY of the above wasn't crystal clear.. especially since he affirmed his beliefs that it's a legit tactic to use and is on by default in all forum fights.

First off, thanks NemeBro for attempting to defend me, but yes, I WAS (semi) seriously attempting to argue that my original group (my secondary group didn't use 4th wall attacks, incidentally - Deadman, Doom, Carnage and Wonder Woman) would win by using 4th wall breakage.

Why? Well, OP wanted someone who could take the majority against Thanos. Thanos has been deemed unkillable by Death. So you need a higher authority than Death, and yet is under Trans, who could do it.

See the problem here?

If anything, I am ACKNOWLEDGING that Thanos is all-powerful. And so pulled those characters out (She-Hulk, Lobo, Animal Man) who have used 4th wall breakage in an offensive capacity. Using Deadpool vs Iron Fist, btw, was not a good example as Deadpool doesn't normally use it in an offensive capacity.....

I still fail to see how it is a stupid line of thinking - hell, She-Hulk even has it as an ability in her Marvel Handbook!! Granted, its a handbook, but the higher-ups in Marvel have deemed it sufficiently in continuity to have it there.

Yes, if we follow that logic, she beats Galactus. Again, how is that any different to any of the other leaps of logic I have seen on this forum? Also, if anything, I am so far the only one in this thread (apart from Sin I Am) who has actually attempted to answer the OP. Are my characters under trans? Check. Do they get the majority against Thanos? Check. Chew on that awhile.....

As for me taking a humorous approach to these comics....let's take a step back and look at what it is we are arguing!

PC superman. 😉

Batman by batkick
Reed Richards by pulling an anti-Thanos-frequenzy-generator out of his butt
Classic Rulk with LoebForce
Possibly Lobo, logic be fragged
He-Man

Lunatic abilities aside, the ONLY person I can think of, aside from Drax, would be Aquarian.

Remember the OP said "neutralize" and if there's one thing Aquarian does best is neutralizing any and all (except magic?) energy that enters his null field.

This guy has shut off the freaking Quantum Bands (and these things tap into the Quantum Zone, the realm where ALL POTENTIAL ENERGY IN THE MARVEL UNIVERSE IS STORED) and he freaking shut down Nth Man, forcing him to collapse in on himself and fall into another universe (for those of you who don't know who Nth Man is, he devours UNIVERSES for a living, was stated he ate 7-8 of them by the time he got to the Squadron Supreme's universe).

Aquarian could go into the fight with his null field extended at max range, if Thanos gets stuck in there, that's that. Even gravity is nullified, he just be stranded there, floating in place.

Could Carnage possess him like he did Silver Surfer?

How about Deadman, in your opinion?

WW with her lasso?

Ovoid mind swap from Doom?

Incidentally, She-Hulk also knows the mind swap technique....but I'm ignoring her for now lol.

Originally posted by zopzop
Lunatic abilities aside, the ONLY person I can think of, aside from Drax, would be Aquarian.

Remember the OP said "neutralize" and if there's one thing Aquarian does best is neutralizing any and all (except magic?) energy that enters his null field.

This guy has shut off the freaking Quantum Bands (and these things tap into the Quantum Zone, the realm where ALL POTENTIAL ENERGY IN THE MARVEL UNIVERSE IS STORED) [b]and he freaking shut down Nth Man, forcing him to collapse in on himself and fall into another universe (for those of you who don't know who Nth Man is, he devours UNIVERSES for a living, was stated he ate 7-8 of them by the time he got to the Squadron Supreme's universe).

Aquarian could go into the fight with his null field extended at max range, if Thanos gets stuck in there, that's that. Even gravity is nullified, he just be stranded there, floating in place. [/B]

ive never heard of him, he sounds cool what level is he?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
First off, thanks NemeBro for attempting to defend me, but yes, I WAS (semi) seriously attempting to argue that my original group (my secondary group didn't use 4th wall attacks, incidentally - Deadman, Doom, Carnage and Wonder Woman) would win by using 4th wall breakage.

Why? Well, OP wanted someone who could take the majority against Thanos. Thanos has been deemed unkillable by Death. So you need a higher authority than Death, and yet is under Trans, who could do it.

See the problem here?

If anything, I am ACKNOWLEDGING that Thanos is all-powerful. And so pulled those characters out (She-Hulk, Lobo, Animal Man) who have used 4th wall breakage in an offensive capacity. Using Deadpool vs Iron Fist, btw, was not a good example as Deadpool doesn't normally use it in an offensive capacity.....

I still fail to see how it is a stupid line of thinking - hell, She-Hulk even has it as an ability in her Marvel Handbook!! Granted, its a handbook, but the higher-ups in Marvel have deemed it sufficiently in continuity to have it there.

Yes, if we follow that logic, she beats Galactus. Again, how is that any different to any of the other leaps of logic I have seen on this forum? Also, if anything, I am so far the only one in this thread (apart from Sin I Am) who has actually attempted to answer the OP. Are my characters under trans? Check. Do they get the majority against Thanos? Check. Chew on that awhile.....

As for me taking a humorous approach to these comics....let's take a step back and look at what it is we are arguing!

See the problem isn't that you named them actually, that is just desperate reaching more than anything else. The problem is, you actually think it's okay to use 4th wall garbage crap in each and every thread said characters are in. That is the issue for a few reasons...

1. There is a reason, and a given, why most people on here don't say they will do forth wall crap in threads they are in. As I stated before, because then that would end each thread after the first post. When people want to talk about Namor vs. She-Hulk... do you actually think they want she-hulk to use that ability... I mean really? That is why it's off by default for most, and you seem to view it the opposite way.

2. Even with the characters who have done it.. it's still a RARELY used ability, and thus not in character for them to do it. As PR has stated in the past.... if someone does something once in a great while... it's not in character for him to just do that in every fight. Of all of She-Hulks and Deadpool appearances.. .they have done it only a handful of times... That isn't a good percentage and yet another reason why it's not a viable tactic to throw out there each and everytime. Thus they DON'T take a majority from Thanos because they wouldn't do that each and every time... shit they would even do it the majority of the time... so UNCHECK that box.

Lastly, I do agree though with your last line... we are arguing over comic book characters fighting one another. 😄

Glad this was put to rest...

Originally posted by Sin I AM
ive never heard of him, he sounds cool what level is he?

He's not even herald level IMHO. But his abilities are freakish. He got them from interacting with a Cosmic Cube. The Nth Man fight/feat was stupendous though. This guy DEVOURS UNIVERSES and Aquarian's null field shut his @$$ down!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Could Carnage possess him like he did Silver Surfer?

How about Deadman, in your opinion?

WW with her lasso?

Ovoid mind swap from Doom?

Incidentally, She-Hulk also knows the mind swap technique....but I'm ignoring her for now lol.

IMHO I think Thanos could resist the symbiote, Ovoid mind swap, AND Deadman's possession attempts.

WW with her lasso is another story. Has that thing EVER been broken out of? If yes, what lvl of power being did it? That lasso is very dangerous.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
See the problem isn't that you named them actually, that is just desperate reaching more than anything else. The problem is, you actually think it's okay to use 4th wall garbage crap in each and every thread said characters are in. That is the issue for a few reasons...

1. There is a reason, and a given, why most people on here don't say they will do forth wall crap in threads they are in. As I stated before, because then that would end each thread after the first post. When people want to talk about Namor vs. She-Hulk... do you actually think they want she-hulk to use that ability... I mean really? That is why it's off by default for most, and you seem to view it the opposite way.

2. Even with the characters who have done it.. it's still a RARELY used ability, and thus not in character for them to do it. As PR has stated in the past.... if someone does something once in a great while... it's not in character for him to just do that in every fight. Of all of She-Hulks and Deadpool appearances.. .they have done it only a handful of times... That isn't a good percentage and yet another reason why it's not a viable tactic to throw out there each and everytime. Thus they DON'T take a majority from Thanos because they wouldn't do that each and every time... shit they would even do it the majority of the time... so UNCHECK that box.

Lastly, I do agree though with your last line... we are arguing over comic book characters fighting one another. 😄

Lol, sorry, didn't see this until now :-p

And I don't want to derail Sin's thread, and descend into flaming each other, so we can agree to disagree, for now. There's a time and a place, I guess, and this is not it hehe. BUT, I will say this, and then stop with the OMGZ SHE HULK SOLOES DUR posts lol.

1. I've seen the Hulk vs Mags threads, and a whole load of threads, where people just jump in and post 'BFR', and the thread is effectively over. Same principle applies here, people assume that BFR is always on until the OP says no, otherwise, Superman wins 10/10 against Savage Hulk in a forum fight (and that is another reason why we see so many HtH threads).

2. Aquaman's mind-raping of the White Martian always gets trotted out. And how many times have we seen Wally's IMP in comics? Now compare that to the number of times his fans use it. Also, I believe the '10/10' or '7/10' numbers posters throw out are odds over a single match. So whether its used the majority of the time or not, if an OP asks for a fight to the best of their abilities, over one match, I say its a viable tactic...I'd argue that over She-Hulk's appearances, she has used that ability way more times than Flash has used the fabled IMP, ditto Lobo. Or to use a Marvel example, Cyclops' Get off my lawn attack...

But, like I said, I don't want to derail it - I have done it enough, I think! So we can agree to disagree lol.

Originally posted by zopzop

WW with her lasso is another story. Has that thing EVER been broken out of? If yes, what lvl of power being did it? That lasso is very dangerous.