Originally posted by namorsubby
Yes, like being much faster, flying, and a host of other abilities.
But you are missing Hulk abilities as well. WBH was leaking energy that had enough power to knock and damage Heralds. Prime would consistently be getting slapped in the face with this while engaging Hulk in combat.
Heat vision, ice breath isn't working against WBH imo. Superman Prime strength and speed would play the huge roll in this fight but imo, its not enough...don't think he could take too many punches, especially a consistent melting Heralds punch.
Originally posted by carver9hulk would have to take an exponentially higher amount of blows, seeing as he is hopelessly out matched in the speed. Not to mention all the ranged attacks hed have to endure.
But you are missing Hulk abilities as well. WBH was leaking energy that had enough power to knock and damage Heralds. Prime would consistently be getting slapped in the face with this while engaging Hulk in combat.Heat vision, ice breath isn't working against WBH imo. Superman Prime strength and speed would play the huge roll in this fight but imo, its not enough...don't think he could take too many punches, especially a consistent melting Heralds punch.
Originally posted by namorsubby
hulk would have to take an exponentially higher amount of blows, seeing as he is hopelessly out matched in the speed. Not to mention all the ranged attacks hed have to endure.
I agree with the speed advantage but I'm using each fighting in character. Prime range attack isn't ending this fight...his fist will be the deciding factor. That's why I am trying to get some fts from someone proving that Superman Prime is stronger than WBH.
Originally posted by carver9
But you are missing Hulk abilities as well. WBH was leaking energy that had enough power to knock and damage Heralds. Prime would consistently be getting slapped in the face with this while engaging Hulk in combat.Heat vision, ice breath isn't working against WBH imo. Superman Prime strength and speed would play the huge roll in this fight but imo, its not enough...don't think he could take too many punches, especially a consistent melting Heralds punch.
Why do you always accuse others of lowballing while doing it yourself?
Originally posted by namorsubbyPeople tend to overlook Superman fighting in character just like you're doing now.
In these superman hulk fights people always overlook the fact that they are 100 times faster than hulks with comparable strengh and durability, along with a host of other powers.
Originally posted by NemeBroThe dialogue is evidence. You might want to ignore the word nuke but I won't.
Irrelevant character statement. Not evidence.Still on this irrelevant tangent? Are you really this incapable of arguing my point?
A. I never claimed comics do not have inconsistency.
B. I never said it was all written by the same guy.
C. Prime's numerous good durability showings don't suddenly get diminished by one that you and you alone interpret as bad.
It certainly is.
If you think that it is more difficult to destroy a planet like Earth than to move it any signifigant distance, then prove it. Provide evidence. Because until you do so, I have won this debate, and you have effectively conceded.
Also, "it's all theoretical" is a cop-out of an argument, and if you really want to play that route, then stop making an objective claim about which is more impressive if it is "all theoretical."
This isn't irrelevant it shows the inconsistency in arguing consistencies in what damages Prime. It would take a lot more than one nuke to destroy the planet yet he remained pretty much unscathed when that occurred.
A.Not just comics pretty much all fiction.
B.You act like it.
C.I never said it should but you don't pick and choose which ones count. They all count.
No, it certainly is not.
They don't have any proof it's just theoretical since scientists don't have proof what it takes to destroy a planet. It's obvious destroying something is more impressive than moving something. Try it out for yourself.
Originally posted by quanchi112 The dialogue is evidence. You might want to ignore the word nuke but I won't.
*sigh*
If you really want to play the character statement route, here you go:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p08.jpg
"My Quantum Power is like the Big Bang itself..."
Said after blasting Prime. So Prime was blasted by what Monarch himself compared to the Big Bang. Monarch's opinion on his own powers is much more valid than Ray Palmer's aesthetic observation of the attack.
(Also thanks for the scan I blatantly ripped from the respect thread Bran)
This isn't irrelevant it shows the inconsistency in arguing consistencies in what damages Prime. It would take a lot more than one nuke to destroy the planet yet he remained pretty much unscathed when that occurred.
... It's irrelevant because you brought it up in the debate which was about something else entirely.
A.Not just comics pretty much all fiction.
Maybe the fiction you watch/read.
B.You act like it.
I do not.
C.I never said it should but you don't pick and choose which ones count. They all count.
Okay, WBH was taken down by a satellite laser that was unable to even pierce the Earth's crust. He loses in one blast of heat vision. 💃
That's ignoring that Monarch's blast hurting Prime isn't a low showing just because it didn't destroy much and because Ray Palmer likened it to a nuke.
No, it certainly is not.They don't have any proof it's just theoretical since scientists don't have proof what it takes to destroy a planet. It's obvious destroying something is more impressive than moving something. Try it out for yourself.
Pick up a bullet at rest. Now try to stop one after it has been fired.
It's the same principle, or at least it would be, if bullets flew at mach 100.
You say "it's obvious" but have provided no evidence. I have. You have shown to be incapable of even grasping the basic concepts of why moving a planet out of orbit is impressive in the first place. Why should I take your argument seriously?
I've won quan.
Originally posted by NemeBroIs like the big bang isn't the big bang. Furthermore his power was released later on in the same issue showing it can set off a chain reaction to destroy the universe but the initial blast didn't destroy a continent let alone the planet.
*sigh*If you really want to play the character statement route, here you go:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p08.jpg
"My Quantum Power is like the [b]Big Bang
itself..."Said after blasting Prime. So Prime was blasted by what Monarch himself compared to the Big Bang. Monarch's opinion on his own powers is much more valid than Ray Palmer's aesthetic observation of the attack.
(Also thanks for the scan I blatantly ripped from the respect thread Bran)
... It's irrelevant because you brought it up in the debate which was about something else entirely.
Maybe the fiction you watch/read.
I do not.
Okay, WBH was taken down by a satellite laser that was unable to even pierce the Earth's crust. He loses in one blast of heat vision. 💃
That's ignoring that Monarch's blast hurting Prime isn't a low showing just because it didn't destroy much and because Ray Palmer likened it to a nuke.
Pick up a bullet at rest. Now try to stop one after it has been fired.
It's the same principle, or at least it would be, if bullets flew at mach 100.
You say "it's obvious" but have provided no evidence. I have. You have shown to be incapable of even grasping the basic concepts of why moving a planet out of orbit is impressive in the first place. Why should I take your argument seriously?
I've won quan. [/B]
You brought up real world science and the amount of nukes to destroy the planet is so insanely high it's funny.
No, all fiction. You're one of those fans that Busiek the writer mocked.
Yes, you do.
The blast was designed to stop him and Hulk was still holding back.
I don't think it's a low showing I am using it as an example to show you how inconsistent this all is.
Try to destroy a bullet at rest under your own power. Now tell me if your body can stop a bullet while being fired at you. One is a possibility one isn't.
It's al theoretical you can't even tell me how much power can lay waste to a planet. How can't you grasp that.
Originally posted by PillarofOsirisWe don't select showings otherwise one could argue Superboy is more powerful than a universe being destroyed since he's hurt him and scarred him for life. There's also no proof Prime tanked the blast.
10 WBH's wouldn't beat prime. This is a fact. WBH died from a planet buster, prime has survived universe busters. Anyone who thinks hulk stands a chance is a moron.
