Originally posted by CogitoSpite against CK unless this takes place in the Void.
CK/Oblivion's most powerful incarnation is that of an m-body.
Otherwise, he can't touch you, while you can't see/hear/touch/smell/or register him.
Heck, the very fact that there is reality,
tells us CK/Oblivion can't stop someone in the void from creating shit anew.
Which furthermore tells us he's irrelevant in the void, even if he supposedly embodies it.
CK has to come at Lucifer with his near total multiversal absorption m-body.