Originally posted by Brockalizer.
I'm going with Hulk on this one. Superman would hold back Hulk wouldn't. It doesn't matter how much Superman loves Lois, it simply isn't in his character to allow 2 people to die, let alone kill one with his bare hands, just to save one person, even if it's Lois. If Hulk were on a planet threatening rampage it would be different. In this scenario Hulk is just a man fighting for his wife. Superman wouldn't trade one life for another.
I agree with you're analysis. However IF superman were to take on a similar mindset as hulk in this encounter and Lois being it's source, no matter how powerful this incarnation of hulk seems to be, superman would be his nightmare. When he truly wants to be, he is extreme power personified.
Originally posted by Glimmerone
.I agree with you're analysis. However IF superman were to take on a similar mindset as hulk in this encounter and Lois being it's source, no matter how powerful this incarnation of hulk seems to be, superman would be his nightmare. When he truly wants to be, he is extreme power personified.
Pretty much agree with this.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree with this...since people likeHulk
The General
Doomsday
Grundy
Mangog
Despero
Juggernaut
Titus
Shaggyman
KonviktNever shown the ability to read a paper at super speed, they shouldn't face people like Gladiator, Nova Prime, Fire Lord, Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, hell, I can throw kid Gladiator up in there as well.
We need to exempt these non reader papers at super speed from vs threads. Let's ignore all of the combat showings involving Gladiator and the crew getting slapped around by these people, its obviously a life time worth of PIS. Gladiator solos the entire crew without getting touched in less than a second 10/10.
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1) Calm Down.
2) Isn't PIS and CIS turned off in these VS threads for the purposes of objectivity?
3) You've yet to show how Hulk can compete with a guy who can think/move faster than Hulk can perceive.
Your ball; don't fumble it again.
Originally posted by RobtardThis is written right in the rules.
1) Calm Down.2) Isn't PIS and CIS turned off in these VS threads for the purposes of objectivity?
3) You've yet to show how Hulk can compete with a guy who can think/move faster than Hulk can perceive.
Your ball; don't fumble it again.
-----Superman would go all out against Doomsday or Despero because he knows how powerful they are. Against the Hulk, he's going to take a few punches before realising he'll have to use something rather than slugging it out. He won't bathe the street in heat vision either, because there are civilians nearby.
It ALL comes down to the CHARACTER, not the POWERSET.----------------
There's actually an example of the Hulk and Superman right in the rules. The best part is you think you're schooling carver but it's clearly in the rules about these two specific characters.
Originally posted by quanchi112
This is written right in the rules.-----Superman would go all out against Doomsday or Despero because he knows how powerful they are. Against the Hulk, he's going to take a few punches before realising he'll have to use something rather than slugging it out. He won't bathe the street in heat vision either, because there are civilians nearby.
It ALL comes down to the CHARACTER, not the POWERSET.----------------
There's actually an example of the Hulk and Superman right in the rules. The best part is you think you're schooling carver but it's clearly in the rules about these two specific characters.
1) Calm down
2) Your post didn't disprove Superman > Hulk cos of his speed. So Superman takes a few punches first and realizes he needs to use his speed, same outcome in the end.
Your ball, try not to shove it up your own ass again.
Originally posted by RobtardHulk ko's him in the first few shots. You claimed he cannot even perceive and wanted to argue based on powerset alone showing you didn't read the rules. You always did want to powerset debate and leave the character out in the movie versus so why not bring that same debating here. Not happening. Read the rules you thought you knew this time.
1) Calm down2) Your post didn't disprove Superman > Hulk cos of his speed. So Superman takes a few punches first and realizes he needs to use his speed, same outcome in the end.
Your ball, try not to shove it up your own ass again.
Superman can take a few WW Hulk punches but not WB Hulk punches. Just on another level. The guy can wreck the planet just by existing while holding back. I know you have no idea what I am even talking about though as you are unfamiliar with the Hulk's best showings.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk ko's him in the first few shots. You claimed he cannot even perceive and wanted to argue based on powerset alone showing you didn't read the rules. You always did want to powerset debate and leave the character out in the movie versus so why noto bring that same debating here. Not happening.Superman can take a few WW Hulk punches but not WB Hulk punches. Just on another level. The guy can wreck the planet just by existing while holding back. I know you have no idea what I am even talking about though as you are unfamiliar with the Hulk's best showings.
Proof Hulk can KO Superman in a few shots?
You always resort to these "On another level" tactics when you have nothing; it means nothing. You're also ignoring the same rules you quoted, if it's WB Hulk we're talking abiut, then Superman would go all out from the start, as WB Hulk is immensely powerful. So Superman wins again via speed.
Try some objectivity for once.
Originally posted by RobtardSuperman knows how powerful Doomsday is but not how powerful the Hulk is. Do you read what I post ? Seriously. He isn't aware of the Hulk's power because he's never met him before in continuity.
Proof Hulk can KO Superman in a few shots?You always resort to these "On another level" tactics when you have nothing; it means nothing. You're also ignoring the same rules you quoted, if it's WB Hulk we're talking abiut, then Superman would go all out from the start, as WB Hulk is immensely powerful. So Superman wins again via speed.
Try some objectivity for once.
Examples:
Thor knows he can't out-brawl Hulk, so uses exotic powers sooner than he would against the likes of Superman, as Superman is an unknown to him.
Superman would go all out against Doomsday or Despero because he knows how powerful they are. Against the Hulk, he's going to take a few punches before realising he'll have to use something rather than slugging it out. He won't bathe the street in heat vision either, because there are civilians nearby.
It ALL comes down to the CHARACTER, not the POWERSET.
You don't know enough about either character to know what Superman is capable of nor what he would do. You can't even grasp the rules.
LoL, the hypocrisy from you is unsurpassed. Did you bother to read the OP? Here, let me help you:
"The wife of the loser will also die slowly and painfullyand both sides know it." -OP
Superman would go all out to save the woman he loves most, he's not risking or chancing anything if her life is in danger. THIS IS IN CHARACTER.
You never try to be objective, just rant over the character you like best.
PS I've forgotten more about either of these characters than you'll ever know of them.
I think Superman's sensory capabilities would give him an inkling of what kind of power level he'd be facing in the form of Hulk. The sheer level of passive gamma radiation coming off of him would probably make Superman cautious and that's assuming that Hulk simply standing there isn't causing chaotic side-effects to the battlefield, which would probably be a red flag for him.
That being said, a punch from Abstract!!11!!! Hulk would mess up Superman. I certainly hope that in of itself isn't being disputed because if so, that's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. A punch from a pissed off Savage Hulk would hurt Superman (and pretty much any herald being) if we're being honest.
Of course, the debate boils down to whether or not Hulk will even be able to hit Superman to begin with and whether or not Superman will literally make himself untouchable to the Hulk.
Originally posted by RobtardHe still lacks the power of the Hulk. He will still get tagged by the Hulk because in character he feels he is powerful enough to do so. Superman has spent a long time at the top of the food chain believing he can tank punches/attacks.
LoL, the hypocrisy from you is unsurpassed. Did you bother to read the OP? Here, let me help you:"The wife of the loser will also die slowly and painfullyand both sides know it." -OP
Superman would go all out to save the woman he loves most, he's not risking or chancing anything if her life is in danger. THIS IS IN CHARACTER.
You never try to be objective, just rant over the character you like best.
PS I've forgotten more about either of these characters than you'll ever know of them.
Here's one example of Superman not being fast enough to protect lives and an example where he gets beaten by two oafish inferior opponents. Granted this is just one example but there are lives on the line here as well and it doesn't change the end result. You claim he's always just darting around with lives on the line isn't true. But you really don't have the knowledge to be in here. But feel free to give examples to back your claims.
These examples back my claims that he thinks he can withstand attacks even though he clearly falters to less than World Breaker Hulk.
Feel free to back your claims.
Can you even comprehend which version of Superman this is? It's essentially SA/PC Superman, the guy with the uber ridiculous laundry list of feats, like towing shitloads of planets linked by a chain while smiling or can push 200 quintillion tons above his head with one arm.
Your PIS/CIS post are just that, try to be objective and follow the rules set by the OP. He can move at nigh-Flash speed-levels.
Originally posted by RobtardThat's precrisis Superman this is New Earth Superman. You don't even know the difference. How embarrassing. Iirc that was Superboy Prime not Superman. You really don't have a clue just showed up to argue.
Can you even comprehend which version of Superman this is? It's essentially SA/PC Superman, the guy with the uber ridiculous laundry list of feats, like towing shitloads of planets linked by a chain while smiling or can push 200 quintillion tons above his head with one arm. He can move a nigh-Flash speed-levels.Your PIS/CIS post are just that, try to be objective and follow the rules set by the OP.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's precrisis Superman this is New Earth Superman. You don't even know the difference. How embarrassing. Iirc that was Superboy Prime not Superman. You really don't have a clue just showed up to argue.
Ah, so I was right, you didn't bother reading the OP, just saw "Hulk Vs Superman" and ranted over the character you like best. Typical Quanchi.
Earth-1 Superman = Silver Age/Pre-Crisis. Genius. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Originally posted by RobtardEarth 1 Superman is earth one superman. Precrisis Superman is precrisis Superman. Now name some actual feats of Precrisis Superman since you foolishly named something Superboy Prime did. You can't give one solid example and are foolishly arguing when it isn't even precrisis Superman. I am really embarrassed, robbie.
Ah, so I was right, you didn't bother reading the OP, just saw "Hulk Vs Superman" and ranted over the character you like best. Typical Quanchi.Earth-1 Superman = Silver Age/Pre-Crisis. Genius. Stop embarrassing yourself.