WBHulk vs Thanos Cage Match

Originally posted by Stoic
So this is where the opinion stems from. No offense to Kurupt, but this is an irrelevant citation, why are people bringing the Merged personality Professor Hulk into this? How has he ever done anything at that level, comparable alone to the Green Scar's feat of overpowering a force capable of making a planet explode.

This really isn't something that should be debated. The Green Scar in World Breaker mode was proven on panel to be far above any level he has been at since the character was first made. Even War paled in comparison to the Green Scar's highest level to date. The crazy thing here is that whatever we saw during HOTM could have been topped. As far as the book went, it said nothing, and I mean not one single thing, that states that the Hulk has finally reached his limits. Can anyone find those words, because i could not.

The point to all of this is that the Merged Hulk does not belong in this thread, due to his level of power, or lack thereof. Am I making any sense here?

The main question here is has Thanos ever on panel been seen to output enough strength with one blow, to make a planet explode? He did fight a huge power in Tyrant, but even their blows didn't cause the structure that they were on to explode. The crazier thing is that since the book came out, people have been claiming many things that simply were never written. No one knows truly how powerful World Breaker Hulk was.

I'll end with this, I have never once seen Thanos shift that much weight with strength alone, unamped by external sources.

I ask this, because the feat that people like to point out the most often, is the eastern seaboard damage scene. And, in my opinion, that seemed more like an energy feat.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Would you say that WBH's amp showed itself more in strength or energy?

I ask this, because the feat that people like to point out the most often, is the eastern seaboard damage scene. And, in my opinion, that seemed more like an energy feat.

But it was stated 3 times as being a step.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Would you say that WBH's amp showed itself more in strength or energy?

I ask this, because the feat that people like to point out the most often, is the eastern seaboard damage scene. And, in my opinion, that seemed more like an energy feat.

It was both, but even without spewing forth energy he is seen in the Dark Dimension doing even more damage, and he also exhibited large amounts of strength without releasing huge gamma blasts when he saved Sakaar by overpowering the explosion that threatened to blow the planet up. The pressure must have been tremendous.

An exact comparison or gap measuring of the Hulk at levels that he holds even with guys like Gladiator, Merged Hulk, Fin Fang Foom, Wendigo, Bi-Beast, Trauma.. etc, compared to his HOTM power levels is very large.

Trauma who was weaker than his father Arm'Cheddon by a good margin, was able to outfight the Merged Hulk, and the Green Scar was able to manhandle him, he even ignored his best shots to the point that left the reader wondering whether or not the Hulk knew that he was being hit. This isn't the lighter weight Hulk's that we are talking about here. I would not be surprised if he could crush Maestro, and War combined due to strength, magical/energy resistance, and durability feats.

Are there any scans of Thanos punching an object so hard that the impacts indirectly destroyed worlds? Gee if he and Betty (as I once said) were any stronger, they would have made planets explode from a high five, now if that isn't power I don't know what is. The crazy thing here is they weren't far from the mark of pulling off such a feat.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Would you say that WBH's amp showed itself more in strength or energy?

I ask this, because the feat that people like to point out the most often, is the eastern seaboard damage scene. And, in my opinion, that seemed more like an energy feat.

Let's just say that if the the energy that was pouring off of him were that great, Sue's shields would have failed her. I think the most damage came from the physical or kinetic contact of his foot hitting the ground, while holding back.

Some of those "steps" looked more like stomps if you ask me.

Originally posted by biensalsa
Some of those "steps" looked more like stomps if you ask me.

But it was stated as being steps. Why do you tend on lowballing Hulk fts? What's wrong with you? Are you angry that he is above Superman?

Originally posted by carver9
But it was stated as being steps. Why do you tend on lowballing Hulk fts? What's wrong with you? Are you angry that he is above Superman?

No! If you notice brainy, I have been on YOUR SIDE!

But even if it "stated" PANEL EVIDENCE shows otherwise!!!

and LOL at Hulk being above Superman, that is why I like You Carver, unlike Quanchi at least You are funny.

Oh and please don't tell me about lowballing, 'cuz I at least keep an open mind

Originally posted by carver9
But it was stated as being steps. Why do you tend on lowballing Hulk fts? What's wrong with you? Are you angry that he is above Superman?

Originally posted by biensalsa
No! If you notice brainy, I have been on YOUR SIDE!

But even if it "stated" PANEL EVIDENCE shows otherwise!!!

and LOL at Hulk being above Superman, that is why I like You Carver, unlike Quanchi at least You are funny.

Lol...I wasn't joking, I was serious.

Those were not stomps and it was stated as being steps.

I know you have been voting for Hulk...you have seen the light BUT, let's not ignore the evidence that is provided.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
lol Hulk being above Superman

The difference is humongous. Hulk would outright annihilate Doomsday...rip him to shreds.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I wasn't joking, I was serious.

I know, that is what worries me

Originally posted by carver9
Those were not stomps and it was stated as being steps.

If something is stated to be indestructible, but then it gets destroyed on panel, then What is it?

Originally posted by carver9
I know you have been voting for Hulk...you have seen the light BUT, let's not ignore the evidence that is provided.

I haven't see the light, I just try to give props to who deserves them.

Originally posted by carver9
The difference is humongous. Hulk would outright annihilate Doomsday...rip him to shreds.

Out of laugh yes. 😄

Originally posted by biensalsa
Out of laugh yes. 😄

You know the truth. Deep down inside, you know Doomsday doesn't stand a chance.

Originally posted by carver9
You know the truth. Deep down inside, you know Doomsday doesn't stand a chance.

No, because He will be unable to defend while laughing at Hulk

Originally posted by quanchi112
Concession accepted.

Originally posted by biensalsa
No, because He will be unable to defend while laughing at Hulk

Lol...quick question. I'm asking you because even though your love for Superman makes my stomach hurt, I know you'll be honest. Who do you think is physically more powerful, V&V Despero or WBH?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...quick question. I'm asking you because even though your love for Superman makes my stomach hurt, I know you'll be honest. Who do you think is physically more powerful, V&V Despero or WBH?

I think Despero looked really good fighting two teams of jobbers

But I also believe WBH looked really good destroying a planet inside the dark dimension.

Comparing this particular portrayals you are talking about would give an accurate estimate.

You cannot compare Despero fighting a team of high herald jobbers vs Hulk fighting a bunch of no name mindless ones.

This is why I try to rely more in "physical universe" feats than in VS feats, unless the character in question has few "physical universe" feats, like many villains do.

Despero hasn't bust a planet IIRC, but also WBH hasn't faced a team of heralds, so comparing this two, the way you want me to compare them, will lead to a wrong assumption.

TBH A more accurate estimate will be to compare Thor ripping a hole in the fabric of reality vs Hulk destroying a planet in the dark dimension.

Originally posted by biensalsa
Some of those "steps" looked more like stomps if you ask me.

Well I never said anything about steps. The only clear canon that is for certain is that he was holding back iirc. Begging to be stopped before he went to a level that would not allow for him to be stopped. Tell me if you believe that I made this up, or if it was actually written.

Originally posted by biensalsa
I think Despero looked really good fighting two teams of jobbers

But I also believe WBH looked really good destroying a planet inside the dark dimension.

Comparing this particular portrayals you are talking about would give an accurate estimate.

You cannot compare Despero fighting a team of high herald jobbers vs Hulk fighting a bunch of no name mindless ones.

This is why I try to rely more in "physical universe" feats than in VS feats, unless the character in question has few "physical universe" feats, like many villains do.

Despero hasn't bust a planet IIRC, but also WBH hasn't faced a team of heralds, so comparing this two, the way you want me to compare them, will lead to a wrong assumption.

TBH A more accurate estimate will be to compare Thor ripping a hole in the fabric of reality vs Hulk destroying a planet in the dark dimension.

I agree.

Originally posted by biensalsa
I think Despero looked really good fighting two teams of jobbers

But I also believe WBH looked really good destroying a planet inside the dark dimension.

Comparing this particular portrayals you are talking about would give an accurate estimate.

You cannot compare Despero fighting a team of high herald jobbers vs Hulk fighting a bunch of no name mindless ones.

This is why I try to rely more in "physical universe" feats than in VS feats, unless the character in question has few "physical universe" feats, like many villains do.

Despero hasn't bust a planet IIRC, but also WBH hasn't faced a team of heralds, so comparing this two, the way you want me to compare them, will lead to a wrong assumption.

TBH A more accurate estimate will be to compare Thor ripping a hole in the fabric of reality vs Hulk destroying a planet in the dark dimension.

So you are not going to answer my question? If you had go bet on a winner, who would it be?

Originally posted by carver9
So you are not going to answer my question? If you had go bet on a winner, who would it be?

I answer your question.

I can't pick one because, because you are asking me to pick based on two different types of feats.

If I go by comparing only the VS feat I choose Despero, If I go comparing only the "Physical world" feat the answer is Hulk, but "Physical world" feats like the one Hulk did, are not uncommon between heralds