Colossus vs Hulk

Started by carver96 pages

I'm done here.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Where did you get this info? Don't tell me it's from Big C...

Yep it's true, I will try to find the source. Going down in issue #5

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The first inquiry was indicative of the type of details most fans want to know: will Hulk and Juggernaut fight?

Fraction responded, "Yes, in issue #5."

Brubaker mentioned that issues one through five, which he termed "'AvX's' first act," would normally be considered an entire event by most readers, and the remaining issues would be two years' worth of stories for most publishers. Fraction added that issue five is so big, it feels like an ending, but it's not -- "There's seven more issues after that."

Fraction followed up, saying, "In issue #6, Hickman has written Colossus as you've never seen him before."

Originally posted by carver9
I'm done here.
Well might be my internet connection but scans didnt go through I read your response on my hulk rants and Hulk has impressive feats from what I heard but Imo he is way overated. Also i go on other site like utube besides here thats why I didn't have the chance to reply sorry about that 🙁 *virtual hug*

This is a 12 issue event? Ughhhhhhhh

i hope colossus keeps the power forever.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yep it's true, I will try to find the source. Going down in issue #5

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LOL wrong link?!

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i hope colossus keeps the power forever.

Why? It's basically trashed his character.

Originally posted by zopzop
LOL wrong link?!

Yep, but I'm to arsed to get the mods to edit my post

Correct link:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=37927

I don't think he need to keep the power but Colossus needed an upgrade a long time ago.

Why did Colossus need an upgrade?

He was fine the way he was.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Why did Colossus need an upgrade?

He was fine the way he was.

He didn't need an upgrade, he just needed to be written pretty much consistently the same way he was written by Whedon.

And if he keeps the amp, it will positively ruin the character.

I agree.

The idea that Colossus should be upgraded primarily for the sake of feats is dumb and the kind of battleboard mentality that makes comics suck.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I agree.

The idea that Colossus should be upgraded primarily for the sake of feats is dumb and the kind of battleboard mentality that makes comics suck.

Pretty much. And the sad thing is, at his strength level he's already capable of some pretty solid feats.

Originally posted by -Pr-

And if he keeps the amp, it will positively ruin the character.

why would him being more powerful ruin the character?

Originally posted by Starscream M
why would him being more powerful ruin the character?

Because he won't be colossus anymore, he'll be a colossus/juggernaut hybrid.

Because being more powerful in of itself shouldn't be done at the expense of characterization?

There is no legitimate reason as to why Colossus should be upgraded other than to appease some of his fans who just want him to be stronger. Which isn't a good reason at all, imo.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Why? It's basically trashed his character.
he needed a character change imo, i like this half evil half good colossus, old colossus was getting boring and beat up by every guy he faced.

colossus needed a upgrade long ago, without one his comics would suck.

just look at superman when he was created he wasnt anywhere near as powerful as he is now. did all the power he got ruinined the character ? no it made it more popular

going from being "more powerful than a locomative" to being strong enough to sneezing galaxys away is the biggest power up i ever seen.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he needed a character change imo, i like this half evil half good colossus, old colossus was getting boring and beat up by every guy he faced.

I don't think he was boring at all, nor do I think he needed a character change; just better writers.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Because being more powerful in of itself shouldn't be done at the expense of characterization?

There is no legitimate reason as to why Colossus should be upgraded other than to appease some of his fans who just want him to be stronger. Which isn't a good reason at all, imo.

Pretty much.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Because being more powerful in of itself shouldn't be done at the expense of characterization?

There is no legitimate reason as to why Colossus should be upgraded other than to appease some of his fans who just want him to be stronger. Which isn't a good reason at all, imo.

did you say the same when thor has received upgrades?

colossus being upgraded means he's actually more relevant and the X-Men can face more variety of foes...since now he can go against legit CL100 threats

Originally posted by Starscream M
did you say the same when thor has received upgrades?

colossus being upgraded means he's actually more relevant and the X-Men can face more variety of foes...since now he can go against legit CL100 threats

Thor being granted the Odin Force actually makes sense (key difference here) as it was his destiny to surpass Odin; the father becomes the son, the son becomes the father blah blah blah. That was the whole point of Thor: Disassembled. And now that Thor already experienced various degrees of empowerment with the Odin Force, it would be stupid for him to go back to King or Rune King Thor levels. Hell, I don't even really like current Fraction Thor; while not an upgrade per se, he's portrayed as far more aggressive and gives zero shits half the time when fighting wouldbe friends and allies. It still reeks of OOCness for me. He's been great for feats, but the stories have been less than stellar.

So, basically, Colossus should be upgraded for the sake of fights and feats and characterization be damned?