Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If you honestly think that Thor hit Logan with his fiercest blows, you're retarded as shit. He was holding back the entire fight. And Thor's "fiercest" blows wind up staggering Galactus, one shot BFRs Nul into space, and shatters Celestial Armor. If Thor was in a WWH type mindset, Wolverine would get raped. End of story.Yeah, they're called whirlwinds, brah.
Troll harder.
You are completely missing the point. Thor isn't enduring "telepathic attacks" and then surviving adamantium bullets from shield guns "while fighting off an assault towards his brain". What's so hard to grasp? This isn't Thor vs an army, this is Thor fighting his mind from getting raped along with fighting an army that is shooting him with high caliber adamantium bullets.
Yeah right.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Thors not getting hit by the bullets thanks to his shields. And he kills the x-men from the sky with a massive lightning bolt. He can BFR juggernaut a LOT easier than the Hulk did. Thor's beat the real black bolt, so skrull bolt wouldmt be too much of a challenge. And he could beat that sentry with ease.
Did Black Bolt hit Thor with a blast that took a chunk out of the moon the size of Rhode Island?
He sure did not.
Originally posted by carver9
You are completely missing the point. Thor isn't enduring "telepathic attacks" and then surviving adamantium bullets from shield guns "while fighting off an assault towards his brain". What's so hard to grasp? This isn't Thor vs an army, this is Thor fighting his mind from getting raped along with fighting an army that is shooting him with high caliber adamantium bullets.Yeah right.
No, you're trying to make Thor fight Earth exactly the same as Hulk did which is stupid as Thor =/= Hulk.
Hulk doesn't have Mjolnir or the vast power that Thor has.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
WTF?Thor isn't the Hulk. He's got way more abilities to invoke than him, and given that he'd be livid as ****, what's to stop him from dropping thunderbolts on people from above? Nothing.
Seriously, don't reverse project Hulk's style of fighting on Thor and then lowball him.
Show me Thor best mind resistant ft or he dies here. It's just that simple. This isn't CISless Thor here Jake. He is fighting in character. Which is the reason Hulk didn't consistently thunder clap throughout his fight against the Xmen.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
No, you're trying to make Thor fight Earth exactly the same as Hulk did which is stupid as Thor =/= Hulk.Hulk doesn't have Mjolnir or the vast power that Thor has.
You are completely missing the point. Let me say this to you again. Thor isn't beating the Xmen while getting Mind raped "before even getting to the battle" by some of the most powerful telepaths on the planet. Grasp it Jake and hold on to it.
Thor on the ground fighting off mind attacks while the Xmen unload on him or adamantium bullets shooting him.
Originally posted by carver9
Show me Thor best mind resistant ft or he dies here. It's just that simple. This isn't CISless Thor here Jake. He is fighting in character. Which is the reason Hulk didn't consistently thunder clap throughout his fight against the Xmen.
Thor fighting in character throws Mjolnir at people, summons storms, absorbs/blocks attacks, and flies around. If I was debating a CISless Thor or just threw out a bunch of random feats, this would be a different story.
You ignoring that Thor has many more options than Hulk does while being in character doesn't change anything.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor fighting in character throws Mjolnir at people, summons storms, absorbs/blocks attacks, and flies around. If I was debating a CISless Thor or just threw out a bunch of random feats, this would be a different story.You ignoring that Thor has many more options than Hulk does while being in character doesn't change anything.
I'm shaking my head at you Jake. Yes, if the Xmen doesn't fight Thor the way they fought Hulk, yes, Thor would win. If they sense him coming and mind rape him just like they tried to do to Hulk...Thor fails. You are making this difficult Jake.
By the way, you are using an out of character Thor. Thor might have more powers than Hulk but he doesn't have his resistance or his strength OR his healing factor.
Originally posted by Starscream M
and you're ignoring the fact that he doesn't use those options as much as you'd likeI mean fer crying out loud, the dark avengers alone took him down
And you don't read comics in order to make that judgment. What's your point?
If you're referring to Thor #600, he was fighting Bor at the time as well, so not sure how's that a low feat. Considering Bor had the power to one shot kill Thor without the Odin Force (something that's beyond Hulk's wildest dreams), I'd love to see you argue that Hulk would be in better shape.
And if you're referring to Siege, Thor just got sucked blitzed by Sentry (whom he dismissed a moment later), and was bombarded by Iron Patriot, Moonstone, The U-Foes, and other assorted villains who all ganged up on him. Don't act like Hulk would fare better, because he wouldn't.
The only people that is needed for the Xmen is Xavier, Emma, and Wolverine. The two telepaths mind rapes him as soon as the battle starts and Wolverine gets the stabbing. This doesn't include the rest of the Xmen that were there.
I need to see some fts from Thor that shows he can resist both Emma and Xavier at the same time.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankhulk DID fare better. He was bombarded by xmen, FF4, and much more, after fighting herc, BB, ares, etc etc.And if you're referring to Siege, Thor just got sucked blitzed by Sentry (whom he dismissed a moment later), and was bombarded by Iron Patriot, Moonstone, The U-Foes, and other assorted villains who all ganged up on him. Don't act like Hulk would fare better, because he wouldn't.
thor would've been KOed very quickly by the forces that Hulk went through
Originally posted by carver9
I'm shaking my head at you Jake. Yes, if the Xmen doesn't fight Thor the way they fought Hulk, yes, Thor would win. If they sense him coming and mind rape him just like they tried to do to Hulk...Thor fails. You are making this difficult Jake.By the way, you are using an out of character Thor. Thor might have more powers than Hulk but he doesn't have his resistance or his strength OR his healing factor.
Why would they fight Thor the exact same manner as they did the Hulk to begin with? That's stupid. Most of the plans Marvel Earth had for Hulk were dependent on attempting to depower him or exploiting knowledge of his close ones. And Thor wouldn't fight them in the same manner that Hulk did either.
Like hell I am. Everything I've mentioned is stuff he's done before in fights, especially when extremely pissed off. Everything Thor brings to the table trumps everything Hulk brings to the table. I mean, Thor fights down to Hulk's level and stalemates him most of the time. That in of itself speaks volumes of their respective formidability levels.
Originally posted by carver9
The beating Hulk went through against Zom Strange>>>anything Thor went through in Siege. Hulk before landing on Earth was hit by an attack that could lay waste to a state and then asked for more...that alone would have dropped Thor imo.
Celestials. Odin/"Infinity".
Checkmate.
And if you want to use Siege and Siege alone, Thor dealt with the Void's psycho tentacles which owned the Hulk before. And he fought Voidtry at less than 100% to begin with.