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zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by Nietzschean
pretty sure Kitty Pryde back in the 80's phased Thor into the ground when she was made to believe Thor was actually Juggernaut. Thor grunted in pain and flexed himself out of the ground.. 😕

He didn't flex and break out of it, he pulled some vortex trick with Mjolnir. And he did a lot more than grunt in pain. He screamed and the expression of pain on his face was hard to ignore. If she had phased out his heart or phased him COMPLETELY into solid matter (instead of only phasing him waist deep), he'dve been crippled or worse.

carver9 Senior Member

Hulk gets shot in the back by adamantium bullets (which would take out Thor). Then as soon as the battle starts, Strange is mind attacking him but Hulk resists it. Remember, Strange isn't even at the battle...he is fighting Hulk from a distance (trying to). Thor doesn't have the resistance fts WWH showed and he would have died here. There was no time for doing hurricanes, throwing hammers, none of that. All of this happened fast.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by zopzop
He didn't flex and break out of it, he pulled some vortex trick with Mjolnir. And he did a lot more than grunt in pain. He screamed and the expression of pain on his face was hard to ignore. If she had phased out his heart or phased him COMPLETELY into solid matter (instead of only phasing him waist deep), he'dve been crippled or worse.

Exactly.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

If Thor is put through every scenario Hulk is in exactly the same manner while fighting the exact same way (Limited to hand to hand), he loses.

But that is some incredibly one sided limitations. If Thor returns to Earth blood lusted, amped, a ship and with a crew of warriors (Probably Beta Ray Bill and such), he'd rape Earth a lot worse than Hulk would.

The closest we have to World War Thor is Blood and Thunder and Reigning. We saw how that shit turned out.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

The closest we have to World War Thor is Blood and Thunder and Reigning. We saw how that shit turned out.

But to be fair to Hulk, during the final half of the Blood and Thunder series, Thor was rocking the Power Gem.

And during the Reigning, he had Daddy Warbucks' power.

Nietzschean Of The Dire Pride

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If Thor is put through every scenario Hulk is in exactly the same manner while fighting the exact same way (Limited to hand to hand), he loses.
But that is some incredibly one sided limitations. If Thor returns to Earth blood lusted, amped, a ship and with a crew of warriors (Probably Beta Ray Bill and such), he'd rape Earth a lot worse than Hulk would.
The closest we have to World War Thor is Blood and Thunder and Reigning. We saw how that shit turned out.

Thor would @$$rape Earth if he came to earth on one of Asgard's ships with BRB, Thunderstrike w/Bloodaxe and his Warrior 3 and Lady Sif, Hercules would join him of course.. 😄

Hell, his rage alone would sweep the earth due to his connection to the Planet b4 anyone could mount an attack..

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
Show me Thor best mind resistant ft or he dies here. It's just that simple. This isn't CISless Thor here Jake. He is fighting in character. Which is the reason Hulk didn't consistently thunder clap throughout his fight against the Xmen.

The most comparable telepathic experiences to Hulk that an insane with rage Thor went through come from Blood and Thunder.

Moondragon with help from the Mind Gem is barely able to break Thor's mental defenses even in a catatonic state.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill1.jpg
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It turns out however that Thor was playing possum so as to get Thanos, Dr. Strange, the Silver Surfer, Drax, Adam Warlock, Moondragon, and Maxam onto a psychic plane of existence. Here he engages them all in a battle of will and successfully traps them in a maelstrom of madness. Their one and only chance was to combine all of their wills with that of Thanos into a sudden attack to barely break free.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill3.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill4.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill5.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill6.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill7.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill8.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill9.jpg
In a fight that defies mortal comprehension, Odin attempts to spiritually/mentally defeat a portion of Thor's psyche and fails.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill10.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill11.jpg

As you can see, they shit on what Hulk went through during World War Hulk.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Nietzschean
Thor would @$$rape Earth if he came to earth on one of Asgard's ships with BRB, Thunderstrike w/Bloodaxe and his Warrior 3 and Lady Sif, Hercules would join him of course.. 😄
Hell, his rage alone would sweep the earth due to his connection to the Planet b4 anyone could mount an attack..

Depends if Earth is prepping against them like they did WWH. Sentry was also a monster and that was the most powerful I've ever seen Sentry. Sentry power output alone would be trouble for any Herald...this isn't including the strength and blasts Sentry was hitting Hulk with.

carver9 Senior Member

How would Thor handle nanites?

Nietzschean Of The Dire Pride

Originally posted by carver9
How would Thor handle nanites?

They would have to get under his skin and his Hammer can easily heal him of them.

besides if you are referring to Ironman palm spike he stabbed hulk with... Hulk wasnt injected with Nanites. the nanites were stolen by one of the kids the night prior.. 😮‍💨

so Thor wouldnt have to worry about them.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Nietzschean
They would have to get under his skin and his Hammer can easily heal him of them.
besides if you are referring to Ironman palm spike he stabbed hulk with... Hulk wasnt injected with Nanites. the nanites were stolen by one of the kids the night prior.. 😮‍💨
so Thor wouldnt have to worry about them.

Naah, I'm not talking about that instance.

PillarofOsiris Senior Member

Originally posted by Nietzschean
Thor would @$$rape Earth if he came to earth on one of Asgard's ships with BRB, Thunderstrike w/Bloodaxe and his Warrior 3 and Lady Sif, Hercules would join him of course.. 😄
Hell, his rage alone would sweep the earth due to his connection to the Planet b4 anyone could mount an attack..

Agreed. But to keep it fair should Thor should get the same back up as the hulk... ie the warbound. But Thor should also be just as mad... Like someone said earlier... Thor thinks the illuminati killed sif... Or all of Asgard.

carver9 Senior Member

When did the War bound help Hulk?

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
When did the War bound help Hulk?

I'm starting to think you didn't actually read World War Hulk.

Nietzschean Of The Dire Pride

Originally posted by carver9
Depends if Earth is prepping against them like they did WWH. Sentry was also a monster and that was the most powerful I've ever seen Sentry. Sentry power output alone would be trouble for any Herald...this isn't including the strength and blasts Sentry was hitting Hulk with.

lets say Sentry and Thor were fighting till Thor reverted to Donald Blake and they punched each other till one of them dropped..

Donald and Thor basically share the same experience and I would say Blake would be the better fighter than Sentry and the fight would end the same way Hulk and Sentry did. Sentry being knocked out. Thor would grab his hammer and be 100% agains. 😄 😎

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm starting to think you didn't actually read World War Hulk.

Ok, let's rephrase that question...when did the Warbounds provide "NEEDED" help besides shielding him during that moment when he was human.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Nietzschean
lets say Sentry and Thor were fighting till Thor reverted to Donald Blake and they punched each other till one of them dropped..
Donald and Thor basically share the same experience and I would say Blake would be the better fighter than Sentry and the fight would end the same way Hulk and Sentry did. Sentry being knocked out. Thor would grab his hammer and be 100% agains. 😄 😎

Uuummm, Thor isn't standing inside of Sentry hurricane fire fighting him like Hulk did. That isn't happening at all. Let alone enduring his blasting power and punches like Hulk did.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
Ok, let's rephrase that question...when did the Warbounds provide "NEEDED" help besides shielding him during that moment when he was human.

The Warbound aided the Hulk in multiple ways. They helped him keep control of the city and the residents there, aided him significantly with the control disk technology, the technological alien was the only reason Hulk's ship even got to Earth past their defenses as I recall, they helped him in various fights such as against the Avengers, IIRC the Fantastic Four etc.

Heck, in the very scans you posted, they probably prevented his body from being completely destroyed by the military as Doctor Strange was in Hulk's mind.

I repeat, if Thor comes to Earth like Hulk, amped, enraged, with aid and so on, then he beats the Marvel Heroes worse than Hulk did.

Originally posted by carver9
Uuummm, Thor isn't standing inside of Sentry hurricane fire fighting him like Hulk did. That isn't happening at all. Let alone enduring his blasting power and punches like Hulk did.

Yes he could.

Nietzschean Of The Dire Pride

Originally posted by carver9
Uuummm, Thor isn't standing inside of Sentry hurricane fire fighting him like Hulk did. That isn't happening at all. Let alone enduring his blasting power and punches like Hulk did.

Thor could contain Sentry if not match Sentry's hurricane fire with his own hurricane/ice and weather control.. 😛

unlike Hulk.. Thor has walked on the Sun with no harm. I doubt it would bother Thor at all.. 😆

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Nietzschean
Thor could contain Sentry if not match Sentry's hurricane fire with his own hurricane/ice and weather control.. 😛
unlike Hulk.. Thor has walked on the Sun with no harm. I doubt it would bother Thor at all.. 😆

😕 I don't know what to say. Lost for words.