Originally posted by Blair Wind
ARE YOU PHUCKING KIDDING ME?!http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/28/young-justice-green-lantern-tas-cancelled
Originally posted by -Pr-
Heard about this, and I really think it's a bad idea. Young Justice, like EMH, was one of the few animated series that could appeal to comic fans and non comic fans alike.
I'm having a serious nerd rage come over me right now. 😠
I think there's a conspiracy of some sort going on. They put good shows in horrible time slots so they don't get as much ratings as they should, and then they justify that as an excuse to drop them and replace them with crap that they convince themselves is good.
Drop annoying orange, drop mad, drop all the bullshit real life specials, the network is called CARTOON Network for a reason.
Put YJ right before or on Toonami like they suggested. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUU -flips a table-
Ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff****!
Well, can't say I'm surprised with the abysmal way they've managed these shows. The constant starting and stopping in the middle of seasons was absurd. I just hope whoever is responsible for this was fired. Into the sun.
Edit: Actually, according to the guys on Something Awful, TJ and GL had the highest ratings on Cartoon Network, so what the actual ****?
I'm not in animation (and CN doesn't animate the show anyways) but I've been in and out of TV (specifically ratings/program/marketing research) over the past few years. The bottom line is almost always money--whether to keep a show depends primarily on the following:1. The show's ratings among key demos
2. Advertiser revenue for the show (a show can rate well and bring in few/bad advertisers, or rate poorly and and still bring in good revenue [the office did this])
3. Episode Cost
4. The show's ability to build an audience as a lead-in or retain an audience as a lead-out
5. Additional revenue generated by the show
6. Contractual obligationsSo with regard to (1) and (4), a show can rate well but not be a good fit with the network line-up. If the majority of Saturday morning shows are made to appeal to boys and girls, then putting them next to Young Justice could hurt their rating, or cause the ratings to skew heavily male in those early hours, and make the whole morning less attractive to advertisers for say, dolls. This is important because advertisers don't typically buy one ad during a show, they buy packages from a network, such as "the Saturday morning block" or "Tuesday Prime 8pm" (there's more to it than this that I can get into, but let's keep it basic for now). An advertiser will have access to information about the block, including a projected rating among their target demo provided by the network, that they use to determine whether to buy that ad space.
To point (4), shows can influence the viewership of shows around them--often viewers of one show are likely to start watching the next show, with some level of drop-off. As a network, you want this drop-off to be minimal. If you're going from Green Lantern to Young Justice, that isn't so bad, but it might be worse going from Young Justice to Gumball than from say, Teen Titans to Gumball (NB: I have no idea if this is the case, nor do I know what they're planning to put on after Teen Titans).
Point (3) can't be overstated. Episode costs are a big part of the economics that go into these decisions. If the cost of a show exceeds the revenue brought in from it, that show isn't going to stick around very long. Likewise, networks will keep cheap shows that underperform on the air (talk shows, reality shows) because their costs are so low. A show like Young Justice, which has very solid animation, is much more expensive than Adult Swim fare like Venture Bros. or shows like Adventure Time, which have shorter episodes and less detailed animation.
To (5), note that these are not shows produced by Cartoon Network, but rather Warner Bros. This is important! While networks have their own production studios, they are often hesitant to only air shows that are produced in-house, as this means they are assuming all of the risk on that show. Whereas if they buy a show from Warner Bros, they split the revenue, but they also aren't on the hook for the entire cost of the show.
How do they split that revenue? I'm glad you asked (humor me). See, typically the production company--in this case Warner Bros.--owns the digital rights to the show, and the toy rights. So it's unlikely that Cartoon Network makes anything on DVD sales of the show, action figure sales, or sales of say, episodes on iTunes.
While it's difficult to know the exact reason why the shows were cancelled, the smart bet is that the margin produced by the show as too low. They're either replacing it with a similar cost show that they feel will exceed the ratings of YJ, or a lower-cost show that will do as well, or both. Bonus points if Teen Titans attracts more girls in the process and makes a better lead-in to other shows.
All is revealed.
The problem with this though is that it's being replaced with Teen Titans Go and Beware the Batman, the latter of which is CGI as well, so the production costs will be high. Also it looks like it'll be shite.
So it turns out Green Beetle was indeed a traitor and still works for the Reach. His big fight with Black Beetle and rescue of the ops team was all a ploy I'm guessing.
When Blue Beetle asked him to fix his Scarab, he "fixed" it, and reprogrammed it so Jaime is under Reach Control.
Also, the new heroes are pretty badass. I wish Virgil had been shown as more of the genius he is though, but Apache Chief was crazy cool with his astral giant projection instead of just growing really big. And the native american sound effects when he grows are awesome.
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilWhen GB first appeared Bart said something like "Green Beetle, that's new", implying he had no idea about him even existing in the future. So yeah, Bart couldn't really share what he didn't know about; he has no evidence that implicated GB as a traitor.
I got the impression that impulse knew that the greenbeetle thing was the trigger. Why did he not tell nightwing? That seems like something you would want to share.
That said, i think we all knew it was a bit too convenient that GB could just "fix" Jaime and solve the problem. The suspicion was furthered when he "offered up" his thoughts to M'gann instead of her reading him. Then again, i guess he could have done what he promised to do if he weren't actually a double agent. Heh.
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yup, i like the new kids. The Asian kid being a girl threw me off from thinking she was Samurai, but i like what they did with her power... sorta reminds me of Marvel's Cannonball, which is even funnier 'cause his name is also Sam.
I also like Tye's astro form instead of his body actually getting larger; it differentiates him from the character that was in JLU and the likes of Giganta.