Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, if he was under his own power...what proof do you have that he slowed down?And no, the janitor doesn't say he was awake after the fall.
Ignore and then circles, eh? Besides common sense and the video footage you mean? Cos it's been shown and explained.
Fair enough, he does say "You were awake when you fell."
Originally posted by Silent Master
Did you miss the rather large explosion that happened just after Thor's last hammer strike?
Can you prove that the explosion in question had more force than taking a 30K free fall?
(See what I mean about common sense)
Probably Thor's best durability feat, good call. Forgot about it. Makes no sense why he staggered like a ***** after Loki stabbed him with a 3inch blade.
Originally posted by Silent MasterOh, that blast didn't destroy the bifrost.
Did you miss the rather large explosion that happened just after Thor's last hammer strike?
The blast happened as a result of Thor destroying the bifrost. Technicality, I know, but the point is, shut up.
Anyway, Thor and Loki took it with zero effect, so not sure how that fits it with them hurting each other with their earlier attacks.
Hulk outright murders Thor, in minutes, the rest don't figure much more.
Hulk fell from the hellicarrier and was awake enough to actually make sure he didn't fall in a populated area. He woke up as Banner, but then that's how he usually changes back to Banner. There's nothing to indicate that the fall did anything to Hulk, at all.
Thor, on the other hand, was going to die from the fall, but managed to escape and 'crash land' in a field to reduce the impact greatly.
Originally posted by RobtardTechnically the power the bridge is enough to tear a planet apart so he was in the middle of an explosion of energy that can tear apart a planet 😛
Can you prove that the explosion in question had more force than taking a 30K free fall?(See what I mean about common sense)
Probably Thor's best durability feat, good call. Forgot about it. Makes no sense why he staggered like a ***** after Loki stabbed him with a 3inch blade.
As for the rest I said before.
You can determine at what force Thor hit.
You could do the math and see how much force would have taken to cause the landing Thor went through.
It could have been more, equal to, or less than Hulk's fall.
Just because he was no longer going at terminal velocity do to falling, once again if he flew out, doesn't change the fact that Thor's speed could have still allowed him to hit with equal force as to what Hulk did.
utter rubbish. Thor was going to die from the fall, clearly he escaped to reduce the velocity at which he was falling to something that he could survive.
however you slice it - however much denial you bring to bear - Thor is nowhere near as durable as Hulk. In fact, the movies put Thor at IronMan levels, nothing more.
Hulk on the other hand is orders of magnitude more powerful than Loki - who is depicted as a peer of Thor's.
Originally posted by janus77I know you hate the character or the fact anyone can take the Hulk on and possibly win but it was never made clear if the fall would kill Thor.
utter rubbish. Thor was going to die from the fall, clearly he escaped to reduce the velocity at which he was falling to something that he could survive.however you slice it - however much denial you bring to bear - Thor is nowhere near as durable as Hulk. In fact, the movies put Thor at IronMan levels, nothing more.
Hulk on the other hand is orders of magnitude more powerful than Loki - who is depicted as a peer of Thor's.
Like Loki said let's test it meaning no one knew if he would survive. He did survive a large drop though and a huge impact. Trying to take that away from him because you want the Hulk's feat to better is asinine.
I know what I'm about say won't really change your mind cause you seem determined to set Thor at some notion of Ironman level, despite everything to contrary shown, cause you want Hulk to be the most powerful.
Let's look at it from a logical point
Assuming Thor flew out for the sake of argument. And he flew out either straight up or straight out and he had completely neutralized all his downward momentum than he wouldn't have hit the ground as he would have kept going at the same direction he would have left. Which means if he flew out and and still hit the ground either going up or out than he was still having some kind of downward momentum offsetting his flight.
Assuming he flew out at a downward angle, which from the shot you can say there is a possibility he did, he would have only added to his momentum.
Of course if he just jumped out of the cage than he would have still added to his momentum through his jumping power.
And you can probably come up with a couple of logical points to make the Hulk impact seem better as well.
Of course all the above is moot because we don't have to logically deduce who would have had the bigger fall.
Basically because we see what force Thor hit the ground with. If you really wanted to determine which fall was worse you could find it out. All you have to do is find out how much Force would have been required for Thor hitting the ground to replicate the on screen events.
And than find out how hard the Hulk would have hit the ground going at Terminal Velocity.
Than compare the numbers.
Than you'll know for sure which one is actually the bigger feat.
I'm going to spend the time researching that so by all means you can go for it.
Until than though I'm willing to call it a push and say that both are incredible feats of survival.
The notion that Thor is Ironman level is just plain wrong though.
Also I know you'll probably say but Hulk smashed Loki and Thor didn't.
First Thor was holding back, and Second Loki still had his staff which up till that point had been his major offensive weapon.
Hulk took out a weaponless Loki who wasn't even KOed at the end of Hulk's attack. Hurtin for sure but not KOed.
If you really wanna get nitpicky with everything technically Hulk never took a Leviathan out on his own, but Thor took out 2-3 by himself. The first one Hulk punched Iron technically killed by shooting the exposed flesh with missiles.
I don't like going that route but if you are gonna nitpick one character remember it can be done both ways.
As far as I'm concerned with the two super powers of the avengers
That as shown on the Hellicarrier Thor is comparable to Hulk in strength but Hulk is stronger and probably more durable. He has to be otherwise there is no point to him being around.
But that Thor when not holding back and using his full range of powers is well more powerful than the Hulk otherwise what use is there for Thor.
If it turned into a melee fight Hulk would probably end up winning, but as long as Thor uses his more powerful amped hammer strikes and lightning attacks he'll most likely take it. They should hurt the Hulk because Thor's advanced attacks greater > than anything the Chitauri weapons showed which were shown to be capable of hurting and slowing down the Hulk.
The problem for Hulk being it should never turn complete Melee unless Thor fights stupid.
I think that is probably the most accurate description of the two.
sweet jesus, you expect me to read that piece of Thor-wanking?
The movie stated it as clear as possible that Hulk >>>>> Thor, in every meaningful way.
Treating Loki like an insect CUTS TO THE HEART of the matter, Thor just ISN'T up to challenging Hulk.
Mjolnir did sod all, nothing to give pause or make you think it might cause Hulk problems.
Unless you've got anything beyond your deepest Thor-wanking desires to trump Marvel's depictions of the gulf in power between Hulk (virtually unkillable) and Thor (almost died falling from a Hellicarrier), I think we'll have to "agree to disagree".
Originally posted by janus77I think we'll have to agree you're very one-sided 😛
sweet jesus, you expect me to read that piece of Thor-wanking?The movie stated it as clear as possible that Hulk >>>>> Thor, in every meaningful way.
Treating Loki like an insect CUTS TO THE HEART of the matter, Thor just ISN'T up to challenging Hulk.
Mjolnir did sod all, nothing to give pause or make you think it might cause Hulk problems.
Unless you've got anything beyond your deepest Thor-wanking desires to trump Marvel's depictions of the gulf in power between Hulk (virtually unkillable) and Thor (almost died falling from a Hellicarrier), I think we'll have to "agree to disagree".