Avengers Movie, Hulk Vs The Avengers

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're confusing Thor not wanting to hurt his brother with not having the ability to hurt him.

Hulk could well have killed him, but instead he just ragdolled Loki, to show him that gods with a small g should not boast in the presence of Hulk.

There was nothing in that scene to indicate that Hulk was exerting ANY effort, Hulk had a tougher time destroying the big flying mecha-fish!

Your fanboy act is amusing.

Originally posted by Robtard
Please, Thor was fighting him to win in the final battle.

Watch the fight again, pay careful attention to how long the fight lasts after Thor says he's had enough.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Watch the fight again, pay careful attention to how long the fight lasts after Thor says he's had enough.

Not long, but it wasn't on par with Hulk's nigh effortless and utterly thorough thrashing of Loki.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not long, but it wasn't on par with Hulk's nigh effortless and utterly thorough thrashing of Loki.

Thor wasn't trying to "utterly thrash" Loki

Gotta love how Thor holds back in all his fights.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor wasn't trying to "utterly thrash" Loki

So your premise is

A) Thor wasn't trying to harm Loki

B) When Thor was, he wasn't really trying

Come on.

Thor's always holding back... Otherwise he'd burst into song, Village People's greatest Hits or maybe some Hoff inspired show tunes.

Anyway, other than Thor-fanboys, reasonable people admit the movie depicted Hulk as being definitively more powerful and by a good margin.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your fanboy act is amusing.

Your fanboy act is amusing.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your fanboy act is amusing.

You're just mad because Thor has the best power feats in the movie.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're just mad because Thor has the best power feats in the movie.

Originally posted by Robtard
Janus does have a point with the Hulk > Loki factor.

While Thor is more powerful than Loki, Thor can't just casually curb-stomp him. While the Hulk essentially did just that.

Loki was weaponless in his 'fight' with Hulk.

Do you honestly think Loki would have fared any better against Thor in a similar situation?

You don't think with Thor's demonstrated might he couldn't have face planted Loki in the ground similar to the Hulk who Thor managed to roughly match in strength for a period of time?

As for Thor holding back of course he was, and when he decided to end the fight he did.

I doubt he was trying to destroy Loki either as demonstrated in their previous fight in Thor even with a planet, Jotunehiem, on the line Thor still was willingly trying to not fight his brother and even stopped fighting to help him up from the Bi-Frost bridge when he thought he was in trouble. He even let Loki hit him in the face with Odin's spear and he wouldn't fight him.

He even tried to save him at the end by grabbing hold of the spear so Loki wouldn't fall into the void.

So yeah I think Thor holds back his full might against Loki cause he doesn't really want his brother.

Originally posted by Newjak
He doesn't have a point.

Loki was weaponless in his 'fight' with Hulk.

Do you honestly think Loki would have fared any better against Thor in a similar situation?

You don't think with Thor's demonstrated might he couldn't have face planted Loki in the ground similar to the Hulk who Thor managed to roughly match in strength for a period of time?

As for Thor holding back of course he was, and when he decided to end the fight he did.

I doubt he was trying to destroy Loki either as demonstrated in their previous fight in Thor even with a planet, Jotunehiem, on the line Thor still was willingly trying to not fight his brother and even stopped fighting to help him up from the Bi-Frost bridge when he thought he was in trouble. He even let Loki hit him in the face with Odin's spear and he wouldn't fight him.

He even tried to save him at the end by grabbing hold of the spear so Loki wouldn't fall into the void.

Not a single argument for why Loki is supposedly puny in comparison to Thor, when from Thor and from Avengers, we've seen Thor fight - literally trade punches! - with Loki.

Another thing, Loki was out-classing IM and Cap, Thor struggled against IM.

Other than wanking, you bring nothing substantial to support your wish-based contention that Thor was somehow depicted as being close to as strong as Hulk.

Originally posted by janus77
lol, entirely "whole-cloth" Thor-wanking.

Not a single argument for why Loki is supposedly puny in comparison to Thor, when from Thor and from Avengers, we've seen Thor fight - literally trade punches! - with Loki.

Another thing, Loki was out-classing IM and Cap, Thor struggled against IM.

Other than wanking, you bring nothing substantial to support your wish-based contention that Thor was somehow depicted as being close to as strong as Hulk.

As for the rest you're gonna keep singing the same old tune, because you want Hulk not only to be the strongest but the most powerful despite what gets shown on screen.

Originally posted by Newjak
He doesn't have a point.

Loki was weaponless in his 'fight' with Hulk.

Do you honestly think Loki would have fared any better against Thor in a similar situation?

You don't think with Thor's demonstrated might he couldn't have face planted Loki in the ground similar to the Hulk who Thor managed to roughly match in strength for a period of time?

As for Thor holding back of course he was, and when he decided to end the fight he did.

I doubt he was trying to destroy Loki either as demonstrated in their previous fight in Thor even with a planet, Jotunehiem, on the line Thor still was willingly trying to not fight his brother and even stopped fighting to help him up from the Bi-Frost bridge when he thought he was in trouble. He even let Loki hit him in the face with Odin's spear and he wouldn't fight him.

He even tried to save him at the end by grabbing hold of the spear so Loki wouldn't fall into the void.

So yeah I think Thor holds back his full might against Loki cause he doesn't really want his brother.

IIRC, after Thor had enough during the bridge fight, he ended it with one attack, had his intention been to "utterly thrash" Loki like Robtard describes the Hulk fight, he had Loki at his mercy and could have easily used another lightning blast or charged hammer strike.

They just don't like admtting that Thor was holding back in certain fights.

Originally posted by Newjak
HE blocked Hulk's punch with one hand. He has to be in the same ball park strength wise with Hulk to be able to do that.

He stopped Hulk's downward hammer-fist with one hand, strained and then quickly used both his arms to hold the Hulk's one back. He then used his whole body to push the Hulk back.

While close in strength, Hulk was shown to have the higher physical output, on more than one occasion too.

Originally posted by Newjak
HE blocked Hulk's punch with one hand. He has to be in the same ball park strength wise with Hulk to be able to do that.

As for the rest you're gonna keep singing the same old tune, because you want Hulk not only to be the strongest but the most powerful despite what gets shown on screen.

So does that make IM as strong as Thor, given that he took a headbutt and replied in kind?

Hulk tossed Thor about when he got serious... Thor ran for cover when the jetfighter began to unload, Hulk didn't even show any sign of injury - TARGET ANGRY! TARGET ANGRY!

Also, remember Loki's plan was to get Hulk and the other Avengers in one place, then make Hulk angry so that he kills them all (Thor included).

When the song is a good one, why not sing it... what you got? stuttering, mumbling nonsense rhymes?

Originally posted by janus77
lol, Thor blocked a punch = he must be just as strong.

So does that make IM as strong as Thor, given that he took a headbutt and replied in kind?

Hulk tossed Thor about when he got serious... Thor ran for cover when the jetfighter began to unload, Hulk didn't even show any sign of injury - TARGET ANGRY! TARGET ANGRY!

Also, remember Loki's plan was to get Hulk and the other Avengers in one place, then make Hulk angry so that he kills them all (Thor included).

When the song is a good one, why not sing it... what you got? stuttering, mumbling nonsense rhymes?

Thor wasn't even on Earth until after Loki let himself be captured, I highly doubt Thor was included in Loki's plan.