Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Likewise Hulk gave Thor all his best blows and all we saw was a bit of a nose bleed. And that without Mjolnir, without Flying all around Hulk and without any Weather manipulation powers.So Thor has proven he can take everything Hulk has to offer. Whilst Hulk has yet to prove he can take the most powerful shots Thor has to offer.
Well aside from tossing him around from as high up as he wants, he could suck all the air from Hulk's Lungs. This Hulk hasn't shown he can survive without air.
Thor hit Hulk square in the face with Mjolnir and it did no noticeable damage, just knocked him back; this was after Hulk punched Thor and made his nose bleed.
I don't see the lightning being more powerful than an outright blow from Mjolnir. So we have Thor bleeding and Hulk just getting pissed.
"Suck all the air from Hulk's lungs" is pure speculation.
Originally posted by ares834
Looked like a nosebleed.
Thor bleed from his nose, not Hulk, he didn't bleed in this film.
Originally posted by NemeBro
He was bleeding from the mouth.
Downloaded.
There was no blood, he simply covered up cos 20 or so ships where firing on him, then it cuts back to the helicarrier and we don't see the Hulk again until he rescues Stark from free-fall, his mouth is not bloody there either.
So it seem it was YOU who was "too busy being skull****ed by a walrus to watch the scene", pal.
It's when Stark is flying the nuke to the portal. We see Hulk crawl up from some rubble and there is green blood which I seem to recall coming from his nose. Unfortunately I can't find any video's with high enough quality to see it clearly now. Still, I doubt Thor can match the output of all those guns with lightning unless there is a skyscraper nearby. Hell, a hand held one put Ironman down for awhile and Hulk was taking multiple blast from dozens of the mounted variety which, IIRC, blew up cars and disintegrated people.
Originally posted by Robtard
Thor hit Hulk square in the face with Mjolnir and it did no noticeable damage, just knocked him back; this was after Hulk punched Thor and made his nose bleed.
And since punches are all Hulk has to offer that proves Thor's has taken Hulk's full power head on with nothing but a slight nose bleed.
Originally posted by Robtard
I don't see the lightning being more powerful than an outright blow from Mjolnir.
Based on what? You saw how all those lasers were hurting Hulk. You really think Thor's full on Lightning Blast won't make those lasers look like pellet guns??
Also the Mjolnir strike Thor gave Hulk was nothing compared to the full on Lightning amped hit he gave to Cap's shield.
Originally posted by ares834
It's when Stark is flying the nuke to the portal. We see Hulk crawl up from some rubble and there is green blood which I seem to recall coming from his nose. Unfortunately I can't find any video's with high enough quality to see it clearly now. Still, I doubt Thor can match the output of all those guns with lightning unless there is a skyscraper nearby. Hell, a hand held one put Ironman down for awhile and Hulk was taking multiple blast from dozens of the mounted variety which, IIRC, blew up cars and disintegrated people.
I downloaded a crappy cam-version, I can check, but I don't recall that "rubble" scene.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
And since punches are all Hulk has to offer that proves Thor's has taken Hulk's full power head on with nothing but a slight nose bleed.Based on what? You saw how all those lasers were hurting Hulk. You really think Thor's full on Lightning Blast won't make those lasers look like pellet guns??
Also the Mjolnir strike Thor gave Hulk was nothing compared to the full on Lightning amped hit he gave to Cap's shield.
Considering one punch from Hulk caused Thor a nose-bleed and one hammer-hit from Thor did nothing to Hullk, it's clearly in Hulk's favor who would win a slug-fest.
That the Hulk was never damaged in this film (unless Ares is right about his rubble scene), even then, a large barrage of energy only caused a nose bleed. Pain is different than damage. Getting hit with a BB-Gun causes some pain, it's not taking you down though, ever.
There's nothing in the films that suggest lightning is taking out this Hulk. Tony's armor-plating took it with little more than some light burning marks.
Originally posted by Robtard
Thor hit Hulk square in the face with Mjolnir and it did no noticeable damage, just knocked him back; this was after Hulk punched Thor and made his nose bleed.I don't see the lightning being more powerful than an outright blow from Mjolnir. So we have Thor bleeding and Hulk just getting pissed.
"Suck all the air from Hulk's lungs" is pure speculation.
Thor's lightning can significantly increase Mjolnir's damage out put (Frost Giant planet hammer smash, killing the Leviathan with Hulk and the blow that hit the shield). If a hammer blow could rock him, getting hit with that would definitely hurt.
A legit lightning barrage though obviously packs a much bigger punch. According to some the building top helped him store energy in a way amplifying the blast, but even without it he summoned a huge bolt of lightning. Not in Hulk's best interest to tank that. As we saw, sufficient fire power can overwhelm and hurt him.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor's lightning can significantly increase Mjolnir's damage out put (Frost Giant planet hammer smash, killing the Leviathan with Hulk and the blow that hit the shield). If a hammer blow could rock him, getting hit with that would definitely hurt.A legit lightning barrage though obviously packs a much bigger punch. According to some the building top helped him store energy in a way amplifying the blast, but even without it he summoned a huge bolt of lightning. Not in Hulk's best interest to tank that. As we saw, sufficient fire power can overwhelm and hurt him.
Again, I don't believe the Hulk was ever harmed in the film, the 20 or so ships firing on him might have caused him pain; not damage.
I'll be looking for this "nose bleeding from rubble" scene when I get home, it may or may not exist. I don't recall it personally,
While we have Thor bleeding from a punch and being damaged by Loki's dagger. Hulk >>>>> what Loki can do damage-wise.
Originally posted by Robtard
Considering one punch from Hulk caused Thor a nose-bleed and one hammer-hit from Thor did nothing to Hullk, it's clearly in Hulk's favor who would win a slug-fest.
Saying Thor's hit did nothing is exaggerating. It knocked Hulk back, and clearly caused some pain.
Thor's first hit also sent Hulk through a wall, his punch also effected Hulk. Thor was able to block Hulk's first punch, and dodge/evade other hits of his.
The most damage Hulk inflicted on Thor was that nose bleed. That doesn't bear well for Hulk considering the way Hulk fought is all Hulk has to dish out. He punched, he raged, he ripped up planes and chucked things at Thor.
Whilst we all know Thor has A LOT more to offer in terms of Power Output.
Add that to the fact that Hulk had trouble even landing a full on hit on Thor, what would be his chances of Hitting Thor in an open space when Thor can fly?!
Originally posted by Robtard
That the Hulk was never damaged in this film (unless Ares is right about his rubble scene), even then, a large barrage of energy only caused a nose bleed. Pain is different than damage. Getting hit with a BB-Gun causes some pain, it's not taking you down though, ever.
Actually pain is the body signalling that it is getting damaged.
And those lasers Hulk took with obvious pain were pale in comparison to Thor's full Lightning output. Not to mention his Hurricanes which can whirl Hulk all over the place and drop him from 50,000 feet in the air.
Add that to a full on Lightning blast during his fall, and I'm pretty sure that would be it for Hulk.
Originally posted by Robtard
There's nothing in the films that suggest lightning is taking out this Hulk. Tony's armor-plating took it with little more than some light burning marks.
Because Tony's suit absorbed most the blast as an energy source to power it. He's done the same in comics. But he wouldn't be able to absorb the same Force if it came from a Physical blow. That becomes obvious when Thor is crushing IM's arms (despite the fact IM was powered up 4 times).
Hurt as in pain? Sure, likely. Damage, none was seen. So if getting hit in the face with Mjolnir caused Hulk damage, it was minimal at best.
Yes, a BB would cause damage in the form of a tiny welt and why it hurts. It's not putting you down though. Hulk was never physically damaged from Thor's hits or the aliens, as far as we see.
Hulk fell from at least 30k feet in this film and wasn't even KO'd. Saying that a 50K foot fall would harm him is just a guess. As is the lightning strikes taking the Hulk out. While we know for a fact the Hulk can make Thor bleed with a single punch.
The energy still had to pass through the armor-plating and then into the various motors and whatnots of the suit that use energy directly. The plating wasn't damaged all that much by the lightning and we know Hulk's skin/body > Tony's armor-plating.
I'm actually surprised that with the damage we see Hulk surviving, people think lightning is bringing him down.