Originally posted by RobtardEven if he did that means he flew out with enough force to break a containment unit designed to keep the Hulk at bay long enough to drop him.
LoL, some people didn't pay attention. Thor flew out.
So obviously if he flew out than he traded one extreme force, dropping thousands of feet, for another, flying into the ground.
If he did in fact fly out.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You'll note that Thor tanked the impact far better than the Hulk did.
You'll note that Thor's crash landing was somewhat controlled as he flew out and left a long groove on the ground indicating that he didn't just smack straight down. Apples to oranges comparison.
He flew out (which negates the momentum from the fall) and then crash-landed from his own power, likely cos he spent a good minute being bounced around in a box.
People have been going balls-deep over Thor since his film, it's funny to watch.
Originally posted by Newjak
Even if he did that means he flew out with enough force to break a containment unit designed to keep the Hulk at bay long enough to drop him.So obviously if he flew out than he traded one extreme force, dropping thousands of feet, for another, flying into the ground.
If he did in fact fly out.
Yes, Thor's hits are incredibly strong, especially with Mjolnir. No one denies this.
Apples to oranges.
He did. Guess I've have to download a crappy cam-copy again and post pics. This isn't the first time Thor-boys have done this.
Originally posted by RobtardHow is it Apples to Oranges.
Yes, Thor's incredibly strong. No one denies this.Apples to oranges.
He did. Guess I've have to download a crappy Cam-copy and post pics. This isn't the first time Thor-boys have done this.
Thor's flight speed can break the sound barrier he left a large divet in the ground.
He obviously hit it with extreme force.
You could through Math decide how much force it would have taken for Thor to cause that much damage and compare it with the force of someone falling from the sky and hitting the ground like Hulk did.
But one thing is for certain Thor hit the ground with a ton of force. And to use it to somehow make Thor seem less than Hulk is kind of lame imo.
Once again that's if he flew.
I've seen the movie 4 times I know the sequence. He pushes of the side of the Cage.
You could make the argument he flew I don't deny that but he could have just easily been pushing himself out using his massive leg strength.
Originally posted by Newjak
How is it Apples to Oranges.Thor's flight speed can break the sound barrier he left a large divet in the ground.
He obviously hit it with extreme force.
You could through Math decide how much force it would have taken for Thor to cause that much damage and compare it with the force of someone falling from the sky and hitting the ground like Hulk did.
But one thing is for certain Thor hit the ground with a ton of force. And to use it to somehow make Thor seem less than Hulk is kind of lame imo.
Once again that's if he flew.
I've seen the movie 4 times I know the sequence. He pushes of the side of the Cage.
You could make the argument he flew I don't deny that but he could have just easily been pushing himself out using his massive leg strength.
You see him fly up and out, so unless Thor then sped up to terminal velocity from his own power and crashed into the ground, it's an apples to oranges comparison.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Fact 1) Thor's fall started well after the Hulk's
Fact 2) Thor was shown moving around before the Hulk
Fact 3) You have no way of proving that Thor hit the ground at a noticeably different velocity than the Hulk
So? We're talking terminal velocity.
Cos he didn't smack straight into the ground at terminal speeds.
Except for the fact where we see Thor fly up and out.
Thorboys are the best.
Originally posted by RobtardCorrection you see him press his feet against the the side of the cage in a squatting position than he pushed off.
You see him fly up and out, so unless Thor then sped up to terminal velocity from his own power and crashed into the ground, it's an apples to oranges comparison.
Admittedly he could have flown past that point, or admittedly his leg strength was enough to push him up and out of the Cage. Also I don't remember Thor going up, only straight out.
How is it apples to oranges exactly?
Both of them had to hit with a certain amount of force. You could, if you wanted to spend the ridiculousness amount of work involved, in all likely hood come up with numbers to show how hard the Hulk hit the ground and how much force Thor would have hit the ground with.
You can than compare those numbers just fine.
But we can tell that surviving either fall was definitely a task and a good feat for either one. I would say if you can survive one you can survive the other.
Originally posted by Newjak
Correction you see him press his feet against the the side of the cage in a squatting position than he pushed off.admittedly he could have flown past that point, or admittedly his leg strength was enough to push him up and out of the Cage.
How is it apples to oranges exactly?
Both of them had to hit with a certain amount of force. You could, if you wanted to spend the ridiculousness amount of work involved, in all likely hood come up with numbers to show how hard the Hulk hit the ground and how much force Thor would have hit the ground with.
But we can tell that surviving either fall was definitely a task and a good feat for either one. I would say if you can survive one you can survive the other.
That was to stop himself from bouncing around, so he then could fly.
Because once he was moving upward/outward by his own flying power, the momentum from his fall is negated. While Hulk just fell, as he can't fly.
I'll DL a cam-copy and post pics. If I happen to be wrong, so be it.
One thing for sure both of them can cause their opponents to fly off with their blows. Let's just agree that both of them are in the same league strengthwise, with little room for any other heavy hitter. It could go either way, but only each could hang in a fight with the other and no one else.
I just hope they up the strength feats for both when Thanos is there, because the way I see it, it will be these two who will tag team Thanos if it goes down to a melee.
Originally posted by Newjak
Correction you see him press his feet against the the side of the cage in a squatting position than he pushed off.Admittedly he could have flown past that point, or admittedly his leg strength was enough to push him up and out of the Cage. Also I don't remember Thor going up, only straight out.
How is it apples to oranges exactly?
Both of them had to hit with a certain amount of force. You could, if you wanted to spend the ridiculousness amount of work involved, in all likely hood come up with numbers to show how hard the Hulk hit the ground and how much force Thor would have hit the ground with.
You can than compare those numbers just fine.
But we can tell that surviving either fall was definitely a task and a good feat for either one. I would say if you can survive one you can survive the other.
Originally posted by RobtardWhy does he have to stop himself from bouncing around to fly, could he not just fly?
That was to stop himself from bouncing around, so he then could fly.Because once he was moving upward/outward by his own flying power, the momentum from his fall is negated. While Hulk just fell, as he can't fly.
I'll DL a cam-copy and post pics. If I happen to be wrong, so be it.
We clearly see him push off as well. Like I said after that he could have flown or he could have just pushed himself but regardless he still hit the ground with tremendous force.
I understand you're saying his fall was negated, but what I'm saying is he still had to have hit the ground with a certain amount of force to cause the giant crater he made.
You could calculate the amount of force it would have taken Thor to do that, and you can calculate the force Hulk would have hit the ground with and than compare them.
So it's not apples to oranges because you are still calculating the force they hit with and comparing that.
Originally posted by Newjak
Why does he have to stop himself from bouncing around to fly, could he not just fly?We clearly see him push off as well. Like I said after that he could have flown or he could have just pushed himself but regardless he still hit the ground with tremendous force.
I understand you're saying his fall was negated, but what I'm saying is he still had to have hit the ground with a certain amount of force to cause the giant crater he made.
You could calculate the amount of force it would have taken Thor to do that, and you can calculate the force Hulk would have hit the ground with and than compare them.
So it's not apples to oranges because you are still calculating the force they hit with and comparing that.
That part didn't make much sense, unless he has to be in a prone position before he can use Mjolnir to fly.
Yes, he left a long groove in the ground. I'm not arguing that he landed softly on plush pillows.
I'm saying one would have been a terminal speeds, the other not.
Again, I'll post pics after I DL a copy.
Never seen this one before!
Avengers win.
Thor creates a hurricane over Hulk whilst Hulk cops a Helicarrier arrow to the head from Hawkeye.
Whilst Hulk is hovering in the sky rattled.
Ironman cuts Hulks head off with a heavy laser clip. He showed he had multiple uses of the laser in Avengers compared to his "one off" feat in Ironman 2.
Hulk gets cut into multiple pieces. And those pieces get stomped by Thor's lightning ground stomp strike.
SHIELD scoops the pieces together and put em in a rocket and launches them into space.
Originally posted by Robtard
That part didn't make much sense, unless he has to be in a prone position before he can use Mjolnir to fly.Yes, he left a long groove in the ground. I'm not arguing that he landed softly on plush pillows.
I'm saying one would have been a terminal speeds, the other not.
Again, I'll post pics after I DL a copy.
You do know that acceleration due to gravity is constant right? Which means that Hulk and Thor and his cage were all falling at more or less the same velocity BEFORE Thor busted out of his cage.
When he did finally bust out of his cage, Thor flew out at an angle slanting downwards, which means that he even increased his terminal velocity. The only way that Thor could have lessened his velocity is if he flew slightly UPWARDS... which you do NOT see him do. He flies out at a downward angle, which means he hit the ground even faster than hulk did.
Originally posted by FrothByte
You do know that acceleration due to gravity is constant right? Which means that Hulk and Thor and his cage were all falling at more or less the same velocity BEFORE Thor busted out of his cage.When he did finally bust out of his cage, Thor flew out at an angle slanting downwards, which means that he even increased his terminal velocity. The only way that Thor could have lessened his velocity is if he flew slightly UPWARDS... which you do NOT see him do. He flies out at a downward angle, which means he hit the ground even faster than hulk did.
Yes; what I've been saying THIS WHOLE TIME, Thor wasn't terminal once he flew up/outward, ie his flight negated the momentum he gained during the free fall.
Will check later and post pics, I recall him flying up/outward.
Even so that cage was falling from a great height increasing in speed as it fell.
Even if Thor launched himself upwards out of that cage its a huge feat of durability. He still went downwards into the earth.
Though Mjolnir would've arguably simply launched him upward without impedment. Which would've eliminated any downward force/