Originally posted by JakeTheBank
lol so Savage Hulk, a Hulk weaker than Nul-Hulk, would have tanked the attack that Nul did....even though Nul tanked nothing, was flash KO'd, and forcibly knocked off planet and into orbit. It's stuff like this that makes people not take you seriously.Feel free to post a scan and lie about whatever suits you best.
And then you look at their respective resumes and how each character is handled. The sooner people such as yourself can admit that Thor fights down to Hulk's level and then fights people much more powerful than Hulk and kicks it up a notch or two, the sooner you can accept and like both characters for what they are.
He wasn't flash KOED since he was trying to talk and he actually guided himself "back" to Earth after the bfr.
Nul is weaker than Savage Hulk.
A bloodlusted Thor used lightning against hulk and hit him with it and still lost the fight (the fight that took place in the artics). No reason to state Thor was holding back either since he admitted he was trying to kill Hulk. Do you need scans of this?
Originally posted by JakeTheBankthe thing is nul isn't hulk...its a villain, so it gets the villain treatment of losing
The BFR wasn't the intent of Thor's strike. It was the after-effect of it. Even if you take Thor's "I could never beat you" line as the gospel - which is ironic, because Thor already has beat him and has beat people more powerful than Hulk - the fact of the matter is that at less than 100% Thor took on and beat two amped versions of Hulk and Thing.You're right that it is pretty obvious how Marvel views the two.
hence i dont count that
Originally posted by carver9
He wasn't flash KOED since he was trying to talk and he actually guided himself "back" to Earth after the bfr.Nul is weaker than Savage Hulk.
A bloodlusted Thor used lightning against hulk and hit him with it and still lost the fight (the fight that took place in the artics). No reason to state Thor was holding back either since he admitted he was trying to kill Hulk. Do you need scans of this?
He was floating in space trying to speak and failing and eventually recovered.
😐 Yeah, because Green Scar/"Family Man" Hulk + Asgardian hammer somehow makes him weaker than a Hulk who's already weaker than the Green Scar persona. Phucking grand line of logic we have here.
WTF? How did Thor lose? He beat both Hulk and Thing after being less than 100%. How that is anything but impressive as well as a commentary on the power level of Thor and where he stands amongst Marvel is beyond me.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor wasn't fighting him one on one. Thor fought Thing as well. Both were amped. Thor also ko'd Hulk years ago with lightning. A ko is a win, carvey.
Thing was already gone and Thor was hitting Nul with his best...even stated that he was trying to kill Nul and he fatigued himself trying to do it. His attacks did nothing to Nul because he bounced up right after being hit by a bloodlusted Thor attacks. Thor then admits he couldn't defeat Nul and bfred him.
Originally posted by Starscream M
the thing is nul isn't hulk...its a villain, so it gets the villain treatment of losinghence i dont count that
Concession accepted, I guess.
Plenty of villains have been able to overwhelm or beat Thor. Nul-Hulk was not one of them. Lol @ "not counting it". And you have you audacity to claim other people are biased.
Originally posted by carver9Thor beat someone else and beat the Hulk as Nul. Hulk was amped. Thor still bfr'd which is a win and beat the amped Thing as well. Then you want to pedal this Thor isn't on his level. You never make any sense. None. Zilch. Zip. Zero. Nada. Nothing. Absolute zero. Negative Zero. Below Zero. No how. No way. Wrong. 100 percent incorrect.
Thing was already gone and Thor was hitting Nul with his best...even stated that he was trying to kill Nul and he fatigued himself trying to do it. His attacks did nothing to Nul because he bounced up right after being hit by a bloodlusted Thor attacks. Thor then admits he couldn't defeat Nul and bfred him.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He was floating in space trying to speak and failing and eventually recovered.😐 Yeah, because Green Scar/"Family Man" Hulk + Asgardian hammer somehow makes him weaker than a Hulk who's already weaker than the Green Scar persona. Phucking grand line of logic we have here.
WTF? How did Thor lose? He beat both Hulk and Thing after being less than 100%. How that is anything but impressive as well as a commentary on the power level of Thor and where he stands amongst Marvel is beyond me.
You missed the part where he did a complete u-turn in space and basically guided himself back to Earth. How can a ko Nul guide himself back to the area he was bfred from? Think Jake.
Yes, Savage Hulk is more powerful than Nul.
You missed the part where I said I was referencing the fight that took place in the Northpole...you know the fight where Thor went Warrior Madness. He hit Hulk with Lightning and Hulk withstood it. This was a bloodlusted Thor and Thor lost that fight.
Originally posted by carver9
Thing was already gone and Thor was hitting Nul with his best...even stated that he was trying to kill Nul and he fatigued himself trying to do it. His attacks did nothing to Nul because he bounced up right after being hit by a bloodlusted Thor attacks. Thor then admits he couldn't defeat Nul and bfred him.
Answer me this:
Did or did Thor not have the power to hit Nul into orbit with a single strike?
Answer me this:
How would that attack fare on Savage Hulk or Green Scar?
And finally, answer me this:
How exactly is Nul weaker than the aforementioned incarnations of Hulk? Especially when it was clear the hammers amped everyone who came into contact with them and the Nul entity frightened even Hulk himself and was described as being "Hulk's Hulk"?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor beat someone else and beat the Hulk as Nul. Hulk was amped. Thor still bfr'd which is a win and beat the amped Thing as well. Then you want to pedal this Thor isn't on his level. You never make any sense. None. Zilch. Zip. Zero. Nada. Nothing. Absolute zero. Negative Zero. Below Zero. No how. No way. Wrong. 100 percent incorrect.
Blink can bfr Hulk. That doesn't mean she is more powerful. Thor would have died if Hulk remained there and he fought smart and bfred him. Thor best didn't even make Nul pause. Thor didn't have a choice but to bfr Nul because he admitted he couldn't beat him and fought smart and took him off of the battlefield. If Nul would have remained there, Thor would have died because Nul was more powerful. All of this is simple buddy.
If you can't physically hang with someone, whats the best thing to do? Try to get some distance which is what Thor did.
I love this.
Thor fights Hulk on his level and has a history of stalemating Hulk. Yet, Thor is decisively weaker than he is.
Thor actually had a fight in which his powers proved to be too much for Hulk, yet people claim that his powers wouldn't effect him or that it's OOC for Thor to ever resort to. Never mind that Thor's powers can and has effected beings significantly more powerful than Hulk.
Thor winds up overpowering and sending an amped Hulk into space with a single strike while being less than at 100%. Yet, this is somehow twisted into said Hulk is actually weaker than Savage Hulk despite him being amped and Thor lost that fight due to a statement that isn't even true when you see that Thor already has beaten Hulk.
Hulkamania's runnin' wild, brother!!!!!
Originally posted by carver9You speculate. Hulk would have died if he didn't have amped Thing with him. I can play the what if game too. Thor bfr'd him off the planet. Thor bfr'd an amped Hulk. Awesome showing.
Blink can bfr Hulk. That doesn't mean she is more powerful. Thor would have died if Hulk remained there and he fought smart and bfred him. Thor best didn't even make Nul pause. Thor didn't have a choice but to bfr Nul because he admitted he couldn't beat him and fought smart and took him off of the battlefield. If Nul would have remained there, Thor would have died because Nul was more powerful. All of this is simple buddy.If you can't physically hang with someone, whats the best thing to do? Try to get some distance which is what Thor did.
Again Thor easily ko'd Hulk in the past with lightning. That's a ko win. When has Hulk ko'd Thor ?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Answer me this:Did or did Thor not have the power to hit Nul into orbit with a single strike?
Answer me this:
How would that attack fare on Savage Hulk or Green Scar?
And finally, answer me this:
How exactly is Nul weaker than the aforementioned incarnations of Hulk? Especially when it was clear the hammers amped everyone who came into contact with them and the Nul entity frightened even Hulk himself and was described as being "Hulk's Hulk"?
Hulk was sucked up in a lightning bolt. It's debatable if that was even a physical attack since Thor has bfred plenty with a bolt of lightning.
2. Savage Hulk or WWH would have been sucked up in the lightning as well but would have been ok. The only difference is, WWH or Savage Hulk doeant have flight and they would have probably been on Jupiter whereas Nul guided himself back to Earth.
Nul is weaker than WWH. His durability is weaker and his strength is weaker as well. Savage Hulk is debatable. How can you be stronger than someone that doesn't have a strength limit? WWH didn't have a strength limit.
Originally posted by Starscream M
lulz @ jakeyou cant use thor vs hulk...so now you gotta use thor vs nul as proxy
stick to thor vs hulk, not thor vs nul
I mean its not like thor vs hulk has a lack of showings
I have used Thor vs. Hulk. They have a history of stalemating in direct melee confrontations with the edge going to Hulk. Thor's actually knocked Hulk out with lightning and stopped him with rain - yes, the very rain you cry foul over and claim shouldn't be used because Thor can't possibly manipulate the weather in ways far greater than what is scientifically possible.
Thor versus Nul-Hulk is valid. It shows that Thor can take on amped versions of both Hulk and Thing at the same time and win while being less than 100%. I know that that fight more or less destroys the notion that Thor can't possibly hope to match, let alone overcome, Hulk, but unfortunately, it happened.
You're right that they do. And those showings prove everything I've been saying all along.
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk was sucked up in a lightning bolt. It's debatable if that was even a physical attack since Thor has bfred plenty with a bolt of lightning.2. Savage Hulk or WWH would have been sucked up in the lightning as well but would have been ok. The only difference is, WWH or Savage Hulk doeant have flight and they would have probably been on Jupiter whereas Nul guided himself back to Earth.
Nul is weaker than WWH. His durability is weaker and his strength is weaker as well. Savage Hulk is debatable. How can you be stronger than someone that doesn't have a strength limit? WWH didn't have a strength limit.
He hit him with Mjolnir with the lightning being a secondary effect of said strike. The power output was so immense, Nul was forcibly taken off planet.
So Thor being able to take on a Hulk with flight capability and still knock him out of orbit should be doubly more impressive than doing it to a flightless Hulk, right?
How is he weaker? Explain that to me. How does an Asgardian hammer make Hulk, who at the time was in his Family Man persona, weaker than Savage Hulk? Is it because he didn't impress you enough?