Thanos with Help vs Odin (Take 2)

Originally posted by quanchi112
The cops isn't canon.

Got a cite for that?

Warlock has been killed by him.

But he still beat Thanos several times.

Warlock was killed by Mar-vell and guess who bested Mar-vell.

Fenris' plan failed and he got owned by Elaine who was trained by Lucifer. See, I can do this too.

Star Lord took on a feral Thanos and needed a cc and three telepaths to subdue him. So no Starlord didn't just best him on his own. Context. Starlord would destroy fenris with just a cc.

LMFAO. Fenris was a multiversal threat.

Morpheus got the better of him whether he cares or not doesn't matter. Morpheus got the better of him.

It does matter. It doesn't count as a win if your opponent lets you win. Otherwise IG Thanos lost to Adam Warlock. Even with the IG, he can't beat someone so much weaker than him! 😆

I'm sure you're leaving out the context since I already exposed you.

Haha, no. You're full of shit, as usual.

That's fine Thanos courts Mistress death. Constantine needs help quitting smoking get back me to me when he handles his vices.

Constantine actually gets laid and has the sense to not spend his entire life chasing after some chick who is clearly not interested in him. He doesn't quit smoking because he doesn't want to, I might as well say Thanos should give up his vice of killing people.

Thanos won't ever face him because he won't survive that long. Sad.

True, Thanos won't survive that long. He's about to get his ass kicked by Bendis' Avengers 😱

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Got a cite for that?

But he still beat Thanos several times.

Fenris' plan failed and he got owned by Elaine who was trained by Lucifer. See, I can do this too.

LMFAO. Fenris was a multiversal threat.

It does matter. It doesn't count as a win if your opponent lets you win. Otherwise IG Thanos lost to Adam Warlock. Even with the IG, he can't beat someone so much weaker than him! 😆

Haha, no. You're full of shit, as usual.

Constantine actually gets laid and has the sense to not spend his entire life chasing after some chick who is clearly not interested in him. He doesn't quit smoking because he doesn't want to, I might as well say Thanos should give up his vice of killing people.

True, Thanos won't survive that long. He's about to get his ass kicked by Bendis' Avengers 😱

When has Warlock beaten Thanos ? Ghost form after Thanos already killed him ? Is that what you're bragging about ?

Fenris did fail in the end as most villains lose in the end. That doesn't mean he didn't make Lucy kill his own brother like a fool.

Fenris was most certainly not a multiversal threat. You're ridiculous.

Lucy never let him win. He was outsmarted by him. Thanos destroyed his opposition. Period.

It's people like you who ruin the boards.

Thanos has been happy with Mistress death before. Thanos won't just sleep with someone. He's no ****. Constantine seems to be a whore. Way to go John.

Speculation. We don't know anything as of yet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Don't be ridiculous.

When has Warlock beaten Thanos ? Ghost form after Thanos already killed him ? Is that what you're bragging about ?

Turned to stone.

Fenris did fail in the end as most villains lose in the end. That doesn't mean he didn't make Lucy kill his own brother like a fool.

Which only served to help Elaine gain his power which was part of Lucifer's plan in the first place.

Fenris was most certainly not a multiversal threat. You're ridiculous.

Really, then what was all this about ending all creation that he was going to do? Did you even read the comic?

Lucy never let him win. He was outsmarted by him.

How the hell was he outsmarted by Morpheus? Are you confusing Lucifer with Choronzon now? They're not the same person. If Lucifer really wanted to beat Morpheus in the game he would have participated himself, not sent one of his underlings to do it for him. I might as well say that every time one of Thanos' minions was defeated it count as Thanos being defeated.

The Blood Brothers worked for Thanos and got their asses kicked by Iron Man, therefore Thanos < Iron Man. This is your logic here.

Thanos destroyed his opposition. Period.

Thanos got owned by Drax.

It's people like you who ruin the boards.

LMAO

Thanos has been happy with Mistress death before. Thanos won't just sleep with someone. He's no ****. Constantine seems to be a whore. Way to go John.

More like a pimp 😮‍💨

Speculation. We don't know anything as of yet.

Can't wait to see the damage control you'll start spinning if things turn sour for old scrotumchin

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Turned to stone.

Which only served to help Elaine gain his power which was part of Lucifer's plan in the first place.[/B]

Really, then what was all this about ending all creation that he was going to do? Did you even read the comic?[/B]

How the hell was he outsmarted by Morpheus? Are you confusing Lucifer with Choronzon now? They're not the same person. If Lucifer really wanted to beat Morpheus in the game he would have participated himself, not sent one of his underlings to do it for him. I might as well say that every time one of Thanos' minions was defeated it count as Thanos being defeated.[/B]

The Blood Brothers worked for Thanos and got their asses kicked by Iron Man, therefore Thanos < Iron Man. This is your logic here.[/B]

Thanos got owned by Drax.[/B]

LMAO

More like a pimp 😮‍💨 [/B]

Can't wait to see the damage control you'll start spinning if things turn sour for old scrotumchin [/B][/QUOTE] If things look awesome for Thanos you'll distance yourself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos already killed him. Warlock's ghost came back. It wasn't just warlock versus Thanos either.

Excuses, excuses

Lucy didn't intend on killing his brother. He was played by Fenris.

But it all worked out for him.

Thanos didn't intend to give birth to the Rot, but he did... and he hated it.

Yes, I did. He was the destroyer but that didn't mean he was multiversal in power. Creation was coming apart since the supreme being left it. He was at his most powerful and benefited from the circumstances. Yes, I understood it unlike you. You are just a shadow on kmc all these years. That has to suck.

Wrong, it was his actions that would lead to the direct destruction of the multiverse. Hence, multiversal threat.

You'd better hope I don't have the Sandman comics on my old hard drive because if I do scans are coming. I read it a long time ago and know you're twisting things as usual. Morph punked him in hell. he was more clever. If I have the sandman comics you will be owned shortly.

Lucifer was preparing to leave Hell anyway, he didn't care. He even had a friendly chat with Morpheus afterward.

This is incorrect.

It's correct according to the kind of logic you use.

Thanos had his back turned. Thanos was weakened during Imperative at the time of his destruction to only find out he was immune to death. He ended Drax when he wouldn't stop.

Your excuses just get more and more pathetic...

He doesn't value himself nor his body so he smokes. What a loser.

Most smokers can trick demons into removing their lung cancer.

If things look awesome for Thanos you'll distance yourself.

Nah, because you see, beating that team (the only two threats on it being Thor and Hulk) is well within his established capabilities.

So either he does what should be par for the course for him, which won't really give him any more credibility than he already has, or he'll do poorly/lose, which will be bad for him. So he has a lot to lose and nothing to gain.

lol at Warlock beating Thanos, context. He was empowered by Chaos and Order.

Point is, Thanos still lost. And that Warlock was still < Fenris

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Point is, Thanos still lost. And that Warlock was still < Fenris

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Excuses, excuses

But it all worked out for him.

Thanos didn't intend to give birth to the Rot, but he did... and he hated it.[/B]

Are you referring to the Avengers Celestial madonna story ?

Wrong, it was his actions that would lead to the direct destruction of the multiverse. Hence, multiversal threat.[/B]

Lucifer was preparing to leave Hell anyway, he didn't care. He even had a friendly chat with Morpheus afterward.[/B]

It's correct according to the kind of logic you use.[/B]

Your excuses just get more and more pathetic... [/B]

Most smokers can trick demons into removing their lung cancer.[/B]

Nah, because you see, beating that team (the only two threats on it being Thor and Hulk) is well within his established capabilities.

So either he does what should be par for the course for him, which won't really give him any more credibility than he already has, or he'll do poorly/lose, which will be bad for him. So he has a lot to lose and nothing to gain. [/B]

You just admitted he's above this so really you just showed how emotionally invested you are in Thanos losing or having a bad showing. You're just awful.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Point if you ignore the context that argument can be used for most characters and is retarded as Warlock didnt beat him under is own power or skill.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Point if you ignore the context that argument can be used for most characters and is retarded as Warlock didnt beat him under is own power or skill.

Which is exactly the same kind of crap that Quanchi is using against Lucifer

Context and the fact Thanos killed him already. I mean his ghost came back. You're just awful.

So Thanos can't even beat a guy who's already dead 😆

That doesn't mean he can't adapt to the situation but the fact is he didn't want to kill his brother. Fenris made him. He played him.

But according to your logic, if Fenris got owned in the end, which he did, it doesn't count.

Are you referring to the Avengers Celestial madonna story ?

Sure

Creation was coming apart since it had no supreme being. Fenris' destiny and the state of the universe or lack thereof a supreme being made creation vulnerable not Fenris' power outside these circumstances. You really are bad at this. Fenris doesn't shit out multiversal power.

I said he was a multiversal threat, not that he cold one-shot multiverse bust. Work on your reading comprehension.

Look at the scans. I knew you were full of sh-t. Morpheus out thinks him with various demons and baddies as an audience. He walks out because he pwns Lucifer. It's embarrassing how badly he mentally raped him here. Lucy even says he is going to kill him. Yet you claim he doesn't care. You're soo awful.

Did he kill him? No.

Could he have? Of course. He could have killed him right then and there if he wanted to - Morpheus himself admitted this earlier.

Explain why if he really wanted to stop Morpheus he sent Choronzon to play the game with him instead of doing it himself.

Explain why just a few issues later he invited Morpheus over to hell for a friendly chat, asked Morpheus to help him cut off his own wings, and left.

You distance yourself from context I force you to face it.

Choronzon isn't Lucifer.

That's exactly what happened. I know in your world context is a four letter word. Not in mine.

You say Thanos dying to Drax doesn't count because he was immune to Drax later... but Fenris does count even though Fenris lost later. Hypocrite.

Smoking is a crutch. He can't deal with stress on his own so he needs a ciggy. Smoking is disgusting and a weakness.

At least he doesn't run around naked waving his big purple junk in everyone's faces

So by your own rationale since it's in his well established capabilities then you won't refer to it since it's a blip.

You just admitted he's above this so really you just showed how emotionally invested you are in Thanos losing or having a bad showing. You're just awful.

No, I just think it will likely happen because of Bendis' writing, and it will be funny to see what excuses you try to pull out if it does

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mike doesn't care about the context so by his logic I can say Thanos dominated Living Tribunal, Eternity, and Infinity. When someone then asks hey did he use the heart of the infinite I say who cares he won. Mike is just awful. He also lied about his height and comic showings.

I typo'd about my height. If I really meant to say that I was 6' 11" instead of 6' 1" why would I have even corrected myself? You would have no way of knowing if I was telling the truth or not.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Which is exactly the same kind of crap that Quanchi is using against Lucifer

So Thanos can't even beat a guy who's already dead 😆 [/B]

But according to your logic, if Fenris got owned in the end, which he did, it doesn't count.[/B]

Sure

I said he was a multiversal threat, not that he cold one-shot multiverse bust. Work on your reading comprehension.[/B]

Fenris was a threat due to the circumstances not under his power alone. Creation needed a supreme being. That's all.

Did he kill him? No.[/B]

Could he have? Of course. He could have killed him right then and there if he wanted to - Morpheus himself admitted this earlier.[/B]

Explain why if he really wanted to stop Morpheus he sent Choronzon to play the game with him instead of doing it himself.

Explain why just a few issues later he invited Morpheus over to hell for a friendly chat, asked Morpheus to help him cut off his own wings, and left.[/B]

Choronzon isn't Lucifer.[/B]

You say Thanos dying to Drax doesn't count because he was immune to Drax later... but Fenris does count even though Fenris lost later. Hypocrite.[/B]

At least he doesn't run around naked waving his big purple junk in everyone's faces

No, I just think it will likely happen because of Bendis' writing, and it will be funny to see what excuses you try to pull out if it does [/B]

Wait until it does happen. You should realize by now things change very quickly in comics such as retcons, clones, etc.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I typo'd about my height. If I really meant to say that I was 6' 11" instead of 6' 1" why would I have even corrected myself? You would have no way of knowing if I was telling the truth or not.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I am certainly not.

Suuuuuuuuure...

Thanos already killed him once.

And he came back, so according to your logic (inverted) it doesn't count.

Warlock wasn't the only one Thanos faced off against. If you think one guy taking on numerous heroes and then having to face off against his ghost is somehow a one on one fight then you're lost.

Lucifer ain't afraid of no ghosts... unlike Thanos

Fenris got the better of him in that particular situation. Lucy prevailed way past that in combat. That doesn't mean Fenris didn't play him to his tune in that particular situation.

Warlock and Drax got the better of Thanos in those particular situations too. Yet you say they don't count.

The avengers celestial story had to do with a Thanos clone. That wasn't the real Thanos.

I've heard this but I haven't actually seen a scan proving that was a clone. Besides if it was, it was stronger than the normal clones anyway, and probably stronger than the original too. Which brings up another thing - Thanos got outsmarted and needed help to stop his own clones from taking over for him. Lame.

Fenris was a threat due to the circumstances not under his power alone. Creation needed a supreme being. That's all.

But Fenris still had the power to destroy it.

No, he let him walk right out of there.

Exactly - he let him because he had no real interest in stopping him.

Of course he could have but Morpheus intellectually outplayed him. Lucy just let him waltz right out of there. Great moment for Morph. I mean Thanos would never be so stupid. Ever.

How was that stupid? Lucifer wouldn't gain anything from killing Dream. He had no interest in doing so.

Lucy set up challenges then verbally sparred with Morpheus himself. They all fell before Morpheus. Again the scans speak for themselves. The best is you said Lucifer didn't care. You're awful at this.

Because he didn't care, else he would have actually gone through with his threat. It's like when someone is annoying you and you say "One day I'm gonna kill that guy", you don't seriously mean it.

And you still didn't answer my questions. Why did he send Choronzon and why was he on friendly terms with Morpheus and acted like he had forgotten the whole thing just a few issues later?

I didn't put up scans of anyone other than Lucifer AND Morpheus. Try to actually show me you're a human being who can think and respond.

But Morpheus' entire "victory" was in the game against Choronzon. That's how he got his stuff back. The scans you posted were just Lucifer and Morpheus chatting a bit.

It counts but Thanos had his back turned against his silver bullet opponent who just recently underwent a serious transformation. Drax never manipulated Thanos into anything. Fenris did. We are comparing their mental acumen not their combat. Try and stay with me. I can slow down if you really aren't keeping up.

Earlier you tried to dismiss the Drax example by claiming that in TI Drax lost to him. So if you think a victory doesn't count because the guy loses later, you should think the same about Fenris.

Thanos lost to Captain Mar-Vell because he was such a dumbass to leave his Cosmic Cube around so Mar-Vell could just smash it.

I'd rather have someone run around naked and own an entire planet than be mentally sonned by someone in front of your entire court in your own realm.

When did that happen to Constantine? Oh wait, it didn't. You are aware that we're talking about him now, right? But as for the realm thing, Lucifer didn't even give a **** about it anymore, he had already let Beelzebub and Azazel take over 1/3rd ruling each even though he was so much more powerful than both of them combined. He left Hell a few issues later because it was boring for him.

Geez, look at Etrigan's series, Lucifer lets Etrigan capture him and pretends to be imprisoned/hurt by him but eventually gets bored and easily breaks out of Etrigan's binds and is just like "lol, it's been fun, but I've got better stuff to do, bye".

The dude simply does not give a ****.

Wait until it does happen. You should realize by now things change very quickly in comics such as retcons, clones, etc.

Already calling for a retcon before it even happens? Shows how much faith you have in your favorite character 🙄

Originally posted by quanchi112
I knew you were lying. I can sense bullshit.

That must be an easy skill to develop for one who spouts it so often

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mike doesn't care about the context so by his logic I can say Thanos dominated Living Tribunal, Eternity, and Infinity. When someone then asks hey did he use the heart of the infinite I say who cares he won. Mike is just awful. He also lied about his height and comic showings.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Which is exactly the same kind of crap that Quanchi is using against Lucifer

Originally posted by Nihilist
😂 What Quan did or didnt say is of no concern to me,

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Suuuuuuuuure...

And he came back, so according to your logic (inverted) it doesn't count.

Lucifer ain't afraid of no ghosts... unlike Thanos [/B]

That ghost would have owned Lucy as well.

Warlock and Drax got the better of Thanos in those particular situations too. Yet you say they don't count.[/B]

I've heard this but I haven't actually seen a scan proving that was a clone. Besides if it was, it was stronger than the normal clones anyway, and probably stronger than the original too. Which brings up another thing - Thanos got outsmarted and needed help to stop his own clones from taking over for him. Lame. [/B]

Thanos was caught off guard by his clones because he was unaware of them. Thanos defeated all his clones. Thanos came out on top.

But Fenris still had the power to destroy it. [/B]

Exactly - he let him because he had no real interest in stopping him.[/B]

How was that stupid? Lucifer wouldn't gain anything from killing Dream. He had no interest in doing so.

Because he didn't care, else he would have actually gone through with his threat. It's like when someone is annoying you and you say "One day I'm gonna kill that guy", you don't seriously mean it.[/B]

And you still didn't answer my questions. Why did he send Choronzon and why was he on friendly terms with Morpheus and acted like he had forgotten the whole thing just a few issues later? [/B]

But Morpheus' entire "victory" was in the game against Choronzon. That's how he got his stuff back. The scans you posted were just Lucifer and Morpheus chatting a bit.[/B]

Earlier you tried to dismiss the Drax example by claiming that in TI Drax lost to him. So if you think a victory doesn't count because the guy loses later, you should think the same about Fenris.[/B]

Thanos lost to Captain Mar-Vell because he was such a dumbass to leave his Cosmic Cube around so Mar-Vell could just smash it.[/B]

When did that happen to Constantine? Oh wait, it didn't. You are aware that we're talking about him now, right? But as for the realm thing, Lucifer didn't even give a **** about it anymore, he had already let Beelzebub and Azazel take over 1/3rd ruling each even though he was so much more powerful than both of them combined. He left Hell a few issues later because it was boring for him.[/B]

Thanos would punk Lucy just like he punked Mephisto.

Geez, look at Etrigan's series, Lucifer lets Etrigan capture him and pretends to be imprisoned/hurt by him but eventually gets bored and easily breaks out of Etrigan's binds and is just like "lol, it's been fun, but I've got better stuff to do, bye".

The dude simply does not give a ****. [/B]

Already calling for a retcon before it even happens? Shows how much faith you have in your favorite character 🙄 [/B]

I'm smart and base things off of history you just live in the moment. What's worse nothing has even happened yet you are already counting on it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Concession accepted.

No concession here. You're being dishonest and you know it, bro.

Yes, he came back and had aid as well. Thanos wasn't just against Warlock.

But Warlock was the one who beat him

That ghost would have owned Lucy as well.

LMFAO 😆

Those are combat situations not mental capacity versus mental capacity. That's what we started comparing and you still ignore the context of the scenes. Thanos wasn't outplayed by anyone.

If you get beaten in combat, it means you didn't prepare adequately for the fight or anticipate it.

That's because you're uneducated when it comes to Thanos. We are discussing the intelligence of the real Thanos not his clones. You are all over the map. It's awful.

But the clones outsmarted Thanos and he needed help from Spider-Man among others to stop them.

I don't remember Lucifer ever calling in Batman for help.

Thanos was caught off guard by his clones because he was unaware of them. Thanos defeated all his clones. Thanos came out on top.

With help from a billion other people. Lucifer came out on top of Fenris too but you say that doesn't count.

His role and because of the situation. The glue which held creation was coming unglued since the presence left creation.

That just gave him an opportunity, it doesn't mean that any old schmuck could have done what he was doing.

He mentally beat him. He outwitted him at every turn. Lucy was humiliated and let him waltz right out of his realm. Awful showing.

Morpheus outwitted Choronzon. Lucifer isn't Choronzon. Lucifer didn't care. Also learn to quote properly.

You are horrific at comprehending the meaning of words within a scene. Lucy was humiliated and he wanted to destroy him. If you claim he didn't care then he's just a wimp and let's others push him around every so often.

Lucifer could have killed him right then and there but he didn't. He had plenty of opportunities to kill him later but he didn't. When Morpheus did die, Lucifer even attended his funeral to pay his respects. Never did he actually intend to kill him.

Morpheus outwitted them all.

Way to totally ignore the question, so here it is again:

Why did he send Choronzon and why was he on friendly terms with Morpheus and acted like he had forgotten the whole thing just a few issues later?

Lucy was styled on. Lucy let him waltz right out of there because he won the day through his words.

He won against Choronzon - if Lucifer cared so much he would have played the game himself but he didn't. The chat afterward was just random banter after the real conflict was already over.

Thanos was weakened.

When Drax stabbed him? Proof?

Thanos wasn't dead he's immune to death. So really he came back under his own power to kill Drax. Thanos won the encounter. I can see why naruto died because of posters like you.

Um, no, Thanos came back via that cocoon thing, which took years. And you're one of the most hated posters here.

He subconsciously allowed himself to lose.

That Freudian excuse wasn't invented until way later in his history.

Lucy lost to Michael in heaven because he's a dumbass.

Um, no, Michael was just more powerful. Weren't you the one saying that combat shit doesn't count?

Sandalphon defeated Michael because he's not stupid.

Michael could have defeated him but had mercy. That's your same excuse.

Lucy let him style on him and then he quit next time we see him. He not only lets people push him around his own realm he also quit hell then quit creation. Quitter.

He was planning to quit the entire time. Because he was bored with just ruling stuff. And if you go by the "Thanos subconsciously wanted to lose" excuse, that makes Thanos an even bigger quitter, as he always gives up his power whenever he gets it.

Thanos would punk Lucy just like he punked Mephisto.

Because you compare Lucifer to a guy who gets outmaneuvered by Black Panther and cares about petty stuff like Spider-Man's marriage. Mephisto is a loser and tricking him means nothing.

The dude sounds like a complete idiot.

He was just playing around. Unlike Thanos who gets power and then gives it up, allowing the heroes to kick his ass. Now that's a complete idiot if I've ever seen one.

Morpheus also sonned him. The scans make it plain as day. he walked out of hell with what he wanted due to being smarter than everyone in hell.

Only in your deranged interpretation, it's clear Lucifer was already planning to quit hell and didn't care if Morpheus got his equipment back, that's why he sent a nobody like Choronzon to compete with him instead of doing it himself, and why just a few issues later they were on friendly speaking terms and Lucifer even let Morpheus help cut off his wings and gave him custody of Hell. You keep ignoring this.

I am intelligent.

People also thought Doomsday had additional powers only to find out it wasn't the real Doomsday. Unlike you who jump at something you don't actually think wait a minute things might change in the near future or it could be a clone.

If you always think something could change in the future then it's impossible to definitely state anything.

How do you know that all of Thanos' feats and victories won't be retconned next week to be illusions and he's just a powerless old geezer who lives in his mother's basement?

I'm smart and base things off of history you just live in the moment. What's worse nothing has even happened yet you are already counting on it.

I'm not counting on anything, just saying it will be funny to see what you do if he gets a poor showing.