Movie Hulk vs Movie Superman vs Movie Thor

Started by quanchi11212 pages

Originally posted by biensalsa
Lol, have you ever read a Superman comic?

I can't believe how they have allow you to run rampant with your fallacies for such a long time.

You don't even know how Superman's powers work, yet You are always debating against Superman.

Stick around I'll teach you a thing or two, slowly so you can enjoy it and swallow it.

Yes, I have. I know he doesn't have dynamic strength. He has limits and relies on an outside power source. Hulk has dynamic strength. But go ahead prove something to me. This is also movie versions so bringing up the comics is about as relevant to this discussion as bringing up the animated films.

Movie version is not the comic version. Laughs.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, I have. I know he doesn't have dynamic strength. He has limits and relies on an outside power source. Hulk has dynamic strength. But go ahead prove something to me. This is also movie versions so bringing up the comics is about as relevant to this discussion as bringing up the animated films.

Movie version is not the comic version. Laughs.

Yes Quancake, is the movie version and as a matter of fact I was going to mention that to you, but for some reason your fallacies make me laugh so much that I forgot to point things out while I'm laughing.

But Ok, so You are saying that Superman will not be able to KO hulk and that Hulk will grow to be Superman strong? 😂

And please stop dodging questions, I'm being chivalrous enough to don't dismiss your arguments even though they are full of manure, so the least thing you can do is at least have the courage to man up and answer unanswered questions.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You exaggerated his feats

Name the exagerrated feats/

and want to completely dismiss how he's portrayed when he goes up against a foe.

He doesn't have many fights in the movies, but since apparently every Superman movie is being allowed, his fight with Nuclear Man was circling the planet and had shit like cutting mountains in half with heat vision.

Superman's top speed feats are impressive but he doesn't do so in combat.

See above.

Thor's hammer will hurt a lot more so than a giant coca cola sign or a manhole.

Superman's fist will hurt a lot more than a helicopter blade. You know, the thing that went through Hulk's chest like butter.

Thor or Hulk win. Just too much. Superman's very unskilled with his powers and lacks dynamic strength like the Hulk.

The ability to exert muscular force repeatedly or over a period of time.

That is the definition of dynamic strength.

Superman was able to continually push a small country out of orbit over a period of a few minutes, despite being injured and weakened.

Please shut the **** up quan, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Thor's more skilled while the Hulk is stronger.

Thor being more skilled doesn't mean a goddamn thing when Superman is millions of times more powerful. Your Mike Tyson vs. Jay Cutler is idiotic. You could make it Mike Tyson vs. an elephant, and the incredible difference in strength and power between those two still isn't as great as the difference between Thor and Superman, or Superman and Hulk.

Why is Hulk stronger than Superman? The feats sure as hell don't point to it.

Again, Superman is millions of times stronger than Thor or Hulk in speed and strength.

Hulk's best movie feat to date, uppercutting one of those skyscraper sized leviathan things, doesn't even equate to 1% of Superman's movie strength.

Mountains and tectonic plates, weigh a lot more. : )

Originally posted by biensalsa
Yes Quancake, is the movie version and as a matter of fact I was going to mention that to you, but for some reason your fallacies make me laugh so much that I forgot to point things out while I'm laughing.

But Ok, so You are saying that Superman will not be able to KO hulk and that Hulk will grow to be Superman strong? 😂

And please stop dodging questions, I'm being chivalrous enough to don't dismiss your arguments even though they are full of manure, so the least thing you can do is at least have the courage to man up and answer unanswered questions.

You asked if I read Superman comics which is irrelevant to a thread about the movie version. You get so riled up you start citing comic book appearances as proof. You're lost.

Hulk's stronger if we take his avengers version. He'd beat him. Superman would put up a good fight but in the end Hulk's power grows while his wanes.

What questions have I dodged ?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Name the exagerrated feats/

He doesn't have many fights in the movies, but since apparently every Superman movie is being allowed, his fight with Nuclear Man was circling the planet and had shit like cutting mountains in half with heat vision.

See above.

Superman's fist will hurt a lot more than a helicopter blade. You know, the thing that went through Hulk's chest like butter.

The ability to exert muscular force repeatedly or over a period of time.

That is the definition of dynamic strength.

Superman was able to continually push a small country out of orbit over a period of a few minutes, despite being injured and weakened.

Please shut the **** up quan, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Thor being more skilled doesn't mean a goddamn thing when Superman is millions of times more powerful. Your Mike Tyson vs. Jay Cutler is idiotic. You could make it Mike Tyson vs. an elephant, and the incredible difference in strength and power between those two still isn't as great as the difference between Thor and Superman, or Superman and Hulk.

Why is Hulk stronger than Superman? The feats sure as hell don't point to it.

You exaggerate the island feat and dismiss his amp.

That isn't canon to Superman anymore.

A manhole hurt Superman while the avengers Hulk was no selling alien warships far more powerful than a helicopter blade.

Superman was amped. The sun amped him in order to do so. His powers are solar based so there you have it. If he had dynamic strength he wouldn't need to amp himself through an external power source.

Quit being so emotional when you don't even grasp how his powers even work. You just want to base everything off of feats. Horrific way to debate. Awful.

If a manhole can hurt Superman do you think Thor's hammer will ? Will Hulk's punches hurt more than a manhole ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
You exaggerate the island feat and dismiss his amp.

That isn't canon to Superman anymore.

A manhole hurt Superman while the avengers Hulk was no selling alien warships far more powerful than a helicopter blade.

Superman was amped. The sun amped him in order to do so. His powers are solar based so there you have it. If he had dynamic strength he wouldn't need to amp himself through an external power source.

Quit being so emotional when you don't even grasp how his powers even work. You just want to base everything off of feats. Horrific way to debate. Awful.

If a manhole can hurt Superman do you think Thor's hammer will ? Will Hulk's punches hurt more than a manhole ?


He wasn't amped.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He wasn't amped.
So he didn't go back to the sun before doing so ?

No. He never even went close to the sun. He didn't even come close to leaving the atmosphere.

He just flew up a bit higher because it was very cloudy.

He didn't even fly up as high as he did when he was saving the plane/shuttle.

I wouldnt say Supes got an amp since he was significantly depowered due to his Kryptonite exposure. Id say the sunlight brought him back to normal at most

Originally posted by CosmicComet
No. He never even went close to the sun. He didn't even come close to leaving the atmosphere.

He just flew up a bit higher because it was very cloudy.

He didn't even fly up as high as he did when he was saving the plane/shuttle.

He got in range for the sun to power him up iirc. If he didn't use the powerup why didn't he beat down Luthor's henchmen since 1/1millionth of that strength would have been enough to flick them into submission.
Originally posted by juggerman
I wouldnt say Supes got an amp since he was significantly depowered due to his Kryptonite exposure. Id say the sunlight brought him back to normal at most
Therefore he wasn't weakened. I say it even amped him but that's just imo.

He wasnt weakened when he began to toss the island but it was weakening him due to the Kryptonite.

Originally posted by juggerman
He wasnt weakened when he began to toss the island but it was weakening him due to the Kryptonite.
He was amped so to me at worst case he was at normal levels.

Superman wasn't amped. Unless happening to be in the sunlight means you are amped.

Yes, a manhole thrown by a Kryptonian will hurt more than Hulk's fist or Mjolnir. 🙂

Also, I love how you say you "accept all showings" while at the same time not giving credit to high ones. You only talk about the opposition's low ones. In Superman's fight with Zod and pals he was traveling the length and breadth of the city in moments. He got knocked a few kilometers by Zod into the lantern of the Statue of Liberty and was uninjured. He punched one of Zod's cronies a few kilos into a building (The Empire State Building I think), which snapped the antennae thing of it in half, and then was fast enough to fly to the ground and stop it from crushing citizens. Oh, and as for the coke sign... I am pretty sure Superman tossed Zod through that. It didn't hurt Superman.

Oh, and the manhole cover barely did shit to Superman.

Thor and Hulk's feats aren't a millionth as impressive as Superman's.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He got in range for the sun to power him up iirc. If he didn't use the powerup why didn't he beat down Luthor's henchmen since 1/1millionth of that strength would have been enough to flick them into submission. Therefore he wasn't weakened. I say it even amped him but that's just imo.

As is often the case, Quan, you are wrong;

YouTube video

1:49-2:14.

He didn't even leave the atmosphere. And he flew up to higher heights than that a couple of different times in the movie.

He wasn't amped, he was partially healed, less than 100% with all the kryptonite shards left in him.

I don't even know what tangent you are on with luthor's men, he was near dead, they had kyrptonite, and then he got stabbed with it.

His power was constantly dropping due to the Kryptonite so even if he started off at normal levels he was clearly almost dead by the time he tossed it into space.

This feat is very stupid in my opinion since Superman is brought to his knees immediatly by small pieces of K but had enough power to lift an island of it

Originally posted by juggerman
His power was constantly dropping due to the Kryptonite so even if he started off at normal levels he was clearly almost dead by the time he tossed it into space.

This feat is very stupid in my opinion since Superman is brought to his knees immediatly by small pieces of K but had enough power to lift an island of it

The feat isn't stupid, because Superman was smart enough to tunnel deep underground of the island, to put several miles of rock between him and the kryptonite while he was lifting the island, but the kryptonite was expanding the whole time, so eventually it reached him.

Never saw it like that.... Maybe youre right

Of course I am. The movie made that clear. 😐

Originally posted by CosmicComet
As is often the case, Quan, you are wrong;

YouTube video

1:49-2:14.

He didn't even leave the atmosphere. And he flew up to higher heights than that a couple of different times in the movie.

He wasn't amped, he was partially healed, less than 100% with all the kryptonite shards left in him.

I don't even know what tangent you are on with luthor's men, he was near dead, they had kyrptonite, and then he got stabbed with it.

He clearly flies up and repoweres/ampes himself by the sun. The movie makes it plain as day. Your clip kinda destroys your case.
Originally posted by juggerman
His power was constantly dropping due to the Kryptonite so even if he started off at normal levels he was clearly almost dead by the time he tossed it into space.

This feat is very stupid in my opinion since Superman is brought to his knees immediatly by small pieces of K but had enough power to lift an island of it

Fiction doesn't add up. It never does yet you have people trying to factor in the density of so and so feat and being 100 percent nerd about it.