Jupiter Ascending (Wachowskis) · Movie Discussion

Patient_Leech Perfect Organism

Originally posted by NemeBro
Lana Wachowski looks like a reasonably attractive chick these days.
Would smash.

It wouldn't bother you that "she" was actually born a dude??

NemeBro Senior Member

Don't be so transphobic.

Patient_Leech Perfect Organism

Oh, Mr. Hat..

jaden101 Restricted

Originally posted by Kazenji
Doesn't mean it was shit movie because of a box office performance.

John Carter ticked both boxes of bombing at the box office and being a shit film.

Esau Cairn Contagious

Originally posted by jaden101
John Carter ticked both boxes of bombing at the box office and being a shit film.

Carter bombed because of poor marketing.

Have you actually seen the film?

It was a good action/adventure movie.

Patient_Leech Perfect Organism

Jesus H Christ do not turn this into another John Carter thread. Resurrect the actual thread if you must. Holy shit. You ALL apparently love the movie because you bring it up so much.

Patient_Leech Perfect Organism

Originally posted by siriuswriter
I cannot wait for this movie. It's just the kind of thing I love to watch!

Yeah, same here. I'm pretty excited about it. I do worry, though, that it won't be a financial success unless it's marketed extremely well. None of the actors/actresses are really massive stars (I bet they were all reasonably affordable). That's not to say that they won't be quality, because they certainly will be. I like Sean Bean a lot, but he doesn't exactly spell massive box office receipts.. lol. And I doubt they would greenlight a project like this without sequels in mind, so I'm already fearing the worst for future installments. Knowing the way the Wachowskis function it'll probably be frustrating if we don't get to see their full vision. The Matrix Trilogy is a massively under-appreciated mind bending masterpiece that largely went over everyone's head. We were quite blessed to see it completed.

But we'll at least have this one, so oh well. And who knows maybe it'll do surprisingly well. *shrug*

(And I don't even know that sequels are planned, but it's rumored to be a Trilogy.)

Tzeentch #gottem

John Carter sucked. It was the definition of a generic action/adventure movie.

Let's talk about how much John Carter sucked, not Jupiter Ascending (which is also going to bomb).

Stealth Moose Umbrella Elite

Quiet, heathen. Get thee hence.

Back to the subject, the cast isn't obscure nor subpar. Marketing however is key. Well known actors with great achievements under their belt do films that end up in Red Box or Netflix queues all the time, relatively unnoticed. This film needs to have a deal with Burger King or Subway to spread the word. Or you know, multi million dollar ads.

Patient_Leech Perfect Organism

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
... the cast isn't obscure nor subpar.

Agreed. I didn't mean to imply that. What I mean is, someone like Tom Hanks (who was in Cloud Atlas) would have been a big house-hold name to help sell the film. I think that's a big reason why World War Z did well. It may have looked like just another zombie movie, but hey, Brad Pitt is in it, so they must be stepping it up a notch. (Not only that, it was his production company, so he had a lot riding on it).

If they take the "From The Creators of The Matrix Trilogy" marketing route again, I think it will just keep backfiring on them because the Matrix Trilogy was so largely misunderstood and under-appreciated.

But yeah, like you said, that or fu#king McDonalds or Burger King... lol. 🙄

Tzeentch #gottem

Frankly, if anything they should just leave the Wachowski name off the marketing altogether. They're reaching Shyamalan-level credibility, imo. The last commercially/critically accalimed movie they did was V for Vendetta.

Kazenji Onyx Prime

If your talking about directing then they didn't even do that movie, It was James McTeigue.

dadudemon Senior Member

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Jesus H Christ do not turn this into another John Carter thread. Resurrect the actual thread if you must. Holy shit. You ALL apparently love the movie because you bring it up so much.

HA! 😆 😆 😆 😆

jaden101 Restricted

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Carter bombed because of poor marketing.
Have you actually seen the film?
It was a good action/adventure movie.

Obviously, otherwise I wouldn't have said it.

It wasn't good. That's why it bombed. All the marketing in the world wasn't making up for awful acting.

jaden101 Restricted

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Jesus H Christ do not turn this into another John Carter thread. Resurrect the actual thread if you must. Holy shit. You ALL apparently love the movie because you bring it up so much.

The comparison is applicable here cos the film clearly has a similar context.

dadudemon Senior Member

Originally posted by jaden101
All the marketing in the world wasn't making up for awful acting.

Star Wars: A New Hope would like to have a word with you.

jaden101 Restricted

Originally posted by dadudemon
Star Wars: A New Hope would like to have a word with you.

It gets a pass given that it had one of the greatest actors in the history of film in it.

Not to mention no one in it was anywhere near as bad as Taylor ***** or whatever it's name is.

Stealth Moose Umbrella Elite

Originally posted by jaden101
It gets a pass given that it had one of the greatest actors in the history of film in it.

RIP Tarkin.

jaden101 Restricted

I was obviously meaning James Earl Jones. BEST OF THE BEST!!!

Stealth Moose Umbrella Elite

As to that, I say:

Remember, Tarkin > Vader in ANH. Tarkin told Vader what to do and he did it.