Originally posted by The Sorrow
Rulk said Thor had him on the ropes and Hulk [B]may have spared his life, it's not as if he was quivering in his pants for fear of death or something. In just a few hours he fought A Bomb, Harpy, Savage Hulk, Thor, fell from the moon and fought Hulk again before being attacked by an amped Thor. [/B]
Pretty much.
Originally posted by BentleyMolecule Man.
Still dodging the question, who is that more impressive opponent Sentry has handled as a proof of his power?At first I believed this was a straight fight or a definition about tiers, and of course, I gave Void/Sentry the edge because of an obvious superiority in versatility. But if you want to argue about who has displayed a bigger amount of power on panel I still haven't seen the feat that gives Sentry the edge over Hulk.
Seriously, find me a feat that can be quantified as spending a huge amount of power and I won't mind at all giving Sentry that edge too.
That's the answer.
Shredding planets against Photon and holding his own while holding back is very impressive. I mean can Hulk make that claim ? Nah.
Void is a lot more powerful and formidable.
Originally posted by carver9Void had Thor at his mercy and didn't need to leech off his amp or use his hammer. Void didn't just fight Thor on his own like Rulk did.
Amped streets and Metas...lol, not impressed. Thor didn't have the amp when he killed Void but Rulk ran through a full powered OF Thor. By the way, based off fts, OF Thor>>>>the amped Thor that fought Void.How much of a amp did Thor get from the norn stones? When you answer that, provide proof.
Rulk showings with his absorption ability was amazing and Hulk beat him with a Thunder clap whereas this version of Rulk ran through an empowered Thor, killed Surfer, along with killing other Heralds, and skyfathers.
Your argument is terrible Quan.
Od Thor let Rulk get more powerful as well. He also used his hammer. Thor decimated him and has beaten him thereafter since then. Rulk didn't want to lose.
Thor and the entire team was amped. How much of an amp was Thor given with the odinforce since you want to ask something of me you can't even provide yourself.
I already explained the context. The Voided out Try destroyed the MM while Rulk was dominated by Thor once he knew who his opponent was and Rulk's never beaten him without use of Thor's hammer.
I'm great.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Molecule Man.
That's the answer.
If Void is shown to have a control over matter that overrides MM's we don't have any reason to think his ability was above the one he used against Loki, Owen has human durability after all. He couldn't replicate MM's feats and undo his reality warp, so we cannot really assume its a prove of power.
Now, if Owen had become a giant or we had anything pointing towards MM amping himself, I would gladly conceed the point. Otherwise...
Originally posted by quanchi112
Shredding planets against Photon and holding his own while holding back is very impressive. I mean can Hulk make that claim ? Nah.
The planets that were impossible to calculate? Those that were busted also by Genis? For all we know they were destroyed in a chain reaction. Also there are many casual planet busters such as Drax and BRB, but I don't necessarily seem like outdoing Hulk. At best Void would be Hulk level.
Originally posted by TheHulkI ask you to back your case is all.
Woah So This Is The Mighty Power Of "Based On"...
Originally posted by BentleyWe see him ovverride his control over molecules. We see him being taught how to control it on panel
That's the answer.If Void is shown to have a control over matter that overrides MM's we don't have any reason to think his ability was above the one he used against Loki, Owen has human durability after all. He couldn't replicate MM's feats and undo his reality warp, so we cannot really assume its a prove of power.
Now, if Owen had become a giant or we had anything pointing towards MM amping himself, I would gladly conceed the point. Otherwise...
The planets that were impossible to calculate? Those that were busted also by Genis? For all we know they were destroyed in a chain reaction. Also there are many casual planet busters such as Drax and BRB, but I don't necessarily seem like outdoing Hulk. At best Void would be Hulk level.
Loki had no way to stop the Void from doing so. MM did but was overpowered at his own game.
The planets were impossible to calculate and it was a shared feat as well with the Hulk and Betty.
Void's broken the Hulk and others on panel. Easily. Quit ignoring the Void's average and quit focusing on the Hulk's best. It's selective reasoning.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I ask you to back your case is all. We see him ovverride his control over molecules. We see him being taught how to control it on panelLoki had no way to stop the Void from doing so. MM did but was overpowered at his own game.
The planets were impossible to calculate and it was a shared feat as well with the Hulk and Betty.
Void's broken the Hulk and others on panel. Easily. Quit ignoring the Void's average and quit focusing on the Hulk's best. It's selective reasoning.
Loki could survive if he chose it, already stated on panel.
Busting planets was also a shared feat for Sentry, and Hulk wasn't even koed by the impact with Betty, so its fair to say it being a shared feat doesn't change much of its dimension.
Also, the question is who is more powerful, not who has a nicer average. More powerful, the most powerful, their most powerful. Hulk would win those. If you feel like discussing something else be my guest 😉
Originally posted by SamZEDEscaping doesn't mean he could have resisted.
To be fair iirc Loki said he could've escaped at any moment but getting killed was his plan. I could be forgetting some context.
Originally posted by BentleyNo, he could have evaded it. So it's a shared feat with Sentry/Genis and not with Hulk/Betty. My word.
Loki could survive if he chose it, already stated on panel.Busting planets was also a shared feat for Sentry, and Hulk wasn't even koed by the impact with Betty, so its fair to say it being a shared feat doesn't change much of its dimension.
Also, the question is who is more powerful, not who has a nicer average. More powerful, the most powerful, their most powerful. Hulk would win those. If you feel like discussing something else be my guest 😉
Void's greatest feats are above the Hulk's greatest. His average is well above his average.
Void/Sentry had the power to scare the entire skrull armada in secret invasion.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Escaping doesn't mean he could have resisted. No, he could have evaded it. So it's a shared feat with Sentry/Genis and not with Hulk/Betty. My word.
You were the one throwing one when condeeming the other my dear, I was just making the link so you would stop your bias 😉
Originally posted by quanchi112
Void's greatest feats are above the Hulk's greatest. His average is well above his average.
Anyone you feel like providing proof for the first statement I'm more than willing to hear you 🙂
I'm not going to discuss averages since to me that isn't the question here.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Void/Sentry had the power to scare the entire skrull armada in secret invasion.
Yay, the Armadas that were scrambled by War Machine and Black Panther were scared of Sentry, too bad pretty much everyone else did more against the Skrulls than Sentry, that fear might've been better placed on Thor.
Originally posted by BentleyI accepted both. You didn't hence your bias not mine.
You were the one throwing one when condeeming the other my dear, I was just making the link so you would stop your bias 😉
If you aren't aware of what the Void's done just tell me. He hasn't had that many appearances but you act like this is all new to you.
Anyone you feel like providing proof for the first statement I'm more than willing to hear you 🙂I'm not going to discuss averages since to me that isn't the question here.
Yay, the Armadas that were scrambled by War Machine and Black Panther were scared of Sentry, too bad pretty much everyone else did more against the Skrulls than Sentry, that fear might've been better placed on Thor. [/B]
Due to the Sentry's weaker mindset but his power was enough to give them pause. What happened is irrelevant to power levels.