Originally posted by The SorrowI think he has ko'd him before.
Cap has never beaten Hulk and the only time I saw Spiderman beat Hulk was when he had the Unipower and he fought Grey Hulk. Not really, the IG made Nebula omnipotent, Cap was still skimming his shield around like normal, they aren't anything close to being similar amps.When Sentry took Hulk on he had come to terms with his responsibility and power. Even by his own words he had never unleashed his full power before that fight.
Again, it seems as though your reasoning is Void beats Hulk so he is more powerful which is missing the point of the thread. Silver Surfer can do almost anything but I wouldn't say he is more powerful than Thor or Hulk, Superman etc, though I would give him the majority over any. Void and WBH are both herald stompers but one has power that can keep on growing, the other has shown limits.
Spiderman beat him in an annual before without an amp. He bested him one on one. It's hilarious.
Your statement that an amp doesn't matter is horrible. I called you on it.
Cap's amp made him far more powerful so what ? He didn't beat Void . Cap's hurt Hulk minus an amp.
Sentry never did but we are talking about the Void. Sentry also realized far greater power after that against the MM. It's like using Legacy going all out when discussing Photon.
Void's power is far greater. Void's also more formidable. Hulk's power can't overpower the Molecule Man. Hulk's power isn't very versatile either but their top/average showings Void is far and away superior.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said it didn't count. Never. I am simply discussing the context around it. Sentry was holding back while doing so the Hulk wasn't holding back at all. That's his best.I have cited examples but you want to hypocritically act like the Hulk's feats count and are verifiable while the Sentry/Void's feats of power are not. That's ridiculous.
Ok, fine, you've cited examples, bring scans of a holding back Sentry busting a planet as a collateral damage, or give me the issue numbers -that will do too-.
You have tried to diminish my proof as often, you're claiming that beating Rulk isn't more impressive that beating Savage Hulk despite the fact Rulk killed Hulk three times. You presume that destroying a Loki that planned to die is more impressive than beating Rulk, which is pretty much saying this isn't a feat of power.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I think he has ko'd him before.Spiderman beat him in an annual before without an amp. He bested him one on one. It's hilarious.
Your statement that an amp doesn't matter is horrible. I called you on it.
Cap's amp made him far more powerful so what ? He didn't beat Void . Cap's hurt Hulk minus an amp.
Sentry never did but we are talking about the Void. Sentry also realized far greater power after that against the MM. It's like using Legacy going all out when discussing Photon.
Void's power is far greater. Void's also more formidable. Hulk's power can't overpower the Molecule Man. Hulk's power isn't very versatile either but their top/average showings Void is far and away superior.
Voids power is far greater than Hulk's? 😂 Based on what? What showing of power by Void is proof that he "far" surpasses Hulk? Molecule Man wasn't killed by Void he was killed by Sentry.
Originally posted by BentleyIf you aren't familiar with the feats then don't try to take away from them. I won't provide issue numbers since you haven't been aware the entire time and acted like you were.
Ok, fine, you've cited examples, bring scans of a holding back Sentry busting a planet as a collateral damage, or give me the issue numbers -that will do too-.You have tried to diminish my proof as often, you're claiming that beating Rulk isn't more impressive that beating Savage Hulk despite the fact Rulk killed Hulk three times. You presume that destroying a Loki that planned to die is more impressive than beating Rulk, which is pretty much saying this isn't a feat of power.
When you look at the totality of the Rulk's history it isn't that impressive. In the first six issues when he was at his best Thor also dominated him as well. Thor was never killed by the Rulk like somebody else I know.
Loki escaping has nothing to do with the power that would kill him. A feat of power is a feat of power.
Originally posted by The SorrowYou said he never ko'd the Hulk he has. You can avoid a canon showing all you want but that doesn't make it any less canon.
What annual? You mean when he threw a cement truck on top of Hulk? If you believe Hulk can genuinely be knocked out by a cement truck then you go ahead and hold onto the feat. Your notorious for lowballing so I would expect no less.Voids power is [B]far
greater than Hulk's? 😂 Based on what? What showing of power by Void is proof that he "far" surpasses Hulk? Molecule Man wasn't killed by Void he was killed by Sentry. [/B]
The Void had power over the Sentry at the time. You need to read the dark avengers. Void's also directly broke every bone in the Hulk's body with ease.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You said he never ko'd the Hulk he has. You can avoid a canon showing all you want but that doesn't make it any less canon.The Void had power over the Sentry at the time. You need to read the dark avengers. Void's also directly broke every bone in the Hulk's body with ease.
Void is the Sentry's power, at it's height. Worldbreaker disintegrated several Savage Hulk level beings while fighting someone else. Considering Savage Hulk was at his base level and s*** scared when Void broke his limbs it isn't all that impressive, several people including Rulk have broken his limbs in the past. Lowballing isn't helping you prove Void is more powerful it's just making you look desperate. Honestly Quanchi do you really believe Sentry/Void contains more power in him than the Hulk after reading HotM?
Hulk became that powerful he literally created Sentry-esque energy projection, wrecking the planet until he had to be BFR. All of which was only a by-product of his original powerset and that still wasn't his limit.
Originally posted by quanchi112
If you aren't familiar with the feats then don't try to take away from them. I won't provide issue numbers since you haven't been aware the entire time and acted like you were.
So you make claims and you don't intend to bring proof. Nice dodge there hon. I'll pm Bbrem, maybe he will actually bring some debate instead of evading confrontation all the time.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When you look at the totality of the Rulk's history it isn't that impressive. In the first six issues when he was at his best Thor also dominated him as well. Thor was never killed by the Rulk like somebody else I know.
Surfer? Grandmaster? Namor? Because Rulk's kill list is pretty good. I have to disagree about how impressive Rulk is, the character was pretty hated because how easily he destroyed established characters left and right, I don't see any point on trying to take away from that.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Loki escaping has nothing to do with the power that would kill him. A feat of power is a feat of power.
Killing Loki is a nice feat. Hulk has better feats though, so does Rulk.
Originally posted by carver9That's not a retort.
Quan is terrible at this.
Originally posted by The SorrowIt's still canon. Pis is something biased people use at their convenience. Sentry's mindset weakens his power. Void is the Sentry's powers at it's best.
I was referring to Cap. Nope it doesn't but PIS is still PIS too.Void is the Sentry's power, at it's height. Worldbreaker disintegrated several Savage Hulk level beings while fighting someone else. Considering Savage Hulk was at his base level and s*** scared when Void broke his limbs it isn't all that impressive, several people including Rulk have broken his limbs in the past. Lowballing isn't helping you prove Void is more powerful it's just making you look desperate. Honestly Quanchi do you really believe Sentry/Void contains more power in him than the Hulk after reading HotM?
Hulk became that powerful he literally created Sentry-esque energy projection, wrecking the planet until he had to be BFR. All of which was only a by-product of his original powerset and that still wasn't his limit.
Citing a direct confrontation between the two isn't lowballing. You can run all you want from canon showings it shows how biased you are.
I think the Void craps all over HOTM Hulk. That was a shared feat anyway. Destroying planets is so Gladiator level. It's impressive but not when we are talking Void level impressive.
Void doesn't have limits either and has casually wrecked planets while holding back. Hulk wasn't holding back. 🙂
Originally posted by BentleyIt's a Thunderbolts issue. Some were in his second series solo title. The rest is dark avengers. I am not looking up the specific issue numbers just because you don't know the character.
So you make claims and you don't intend to bring proof. Nice dodge there hon. I'll pm Bbrem, maybe he will actually bring some debate instead of evading confrontation all the time.Surfer? Grandmaster? Namor? Because Rulk's kill list is pretty good. I have to disagree about how impressive Rulk is, the character was pretty hated because how easily he destroyed established characters left and right, I don't see any point on trying to take away from that.
Killing Loki is a nice feat. Hulk has better feats though, so does Rulk.
A noob Surfer who has been beaten by less than the Rulk. Gm--ok ? Failed to kill Thor and was stomped by him the next time they fought. Thor beat his ass again after that so unlike the Hulk he has a winning record and hasn't been killed by him.
Most of Rulk's kills were off guard while he was running around going psycho. Void faced off against teams of enemies at once he didn't catch them off guard like the Rulk did. When Thor knew about him he broke him.
Who has Hulk killed which is more impressive than Loki ?
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's a Thunderbolts issue. Some were in his second series solo title. The rest is dark avengers. I am not looking up the specific issue numbers just because you don't know the character.A noob Surfer who has been beaten by less than the Rulk. Gm--ok ? Failed to kill Thor and was stomped by him the next time they fought. Thor beat his ass again after that so unlike the Hulk he has a winning record and hasn't been killed by him.
Most of Rulk's kills were off guard while he was running around going psycho. Void faced off against teams of enemies at once he didn't catch them off guard like the Rulk did. When Thor knew about him he broke him.
Who has Hulk killed which is more impressive than Loki ?
Hulk punched the reality warping power clean out of Onslaught.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/comic%20book%20scans/onslaught22sr.jpg
That's greater than anything Void or Sentry has done. Let's not forget, Onslaught created a Utopia and a Sun just by thinking about it.
Originally posted by carver9Hulk never killed Onslaught. Really carver read the comics.
Hulk punched the reality warping power clean out of Onslaught.http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/comic%20book%20scans/onslaught22sr.jpg
That's greater than anything Void or Sentry has done. Let's not forget, Onslaught created a Utopia and a Sun just by thinking about it.
