Originally posted by namorsubbynah, i didnt.
My point was that dc characters are often the direct influence behind marvel characters. I wasn't trying to disprove that comic characters in general are influenced by various and random subjects. You seem to have lost sight of that lol
I was also trying to make a similar point to those people crying about character theft and lack of originality.
Originally posted by Nietzschean
Wolfen obvious rip off of Wolverine and possibly Beast
Viking a blatant rip off of Thor
Originally posted by abhilegend
They were designed for that purpose.
Superman rip-offs in marvel, Gladiator, Count nefaria, Hyperion, Ethan Edwards, and many others. Quasar and nova are rip-off of GL, Dr. Strange is a rip-off of Dr. Fate, Fantastic four are rip-off of Chalangers of The Unknown, X-men are rip-off of Doom patrol, etc.
I'll give you Glads, Hyperion, Ethan Edwards, Sentry, and others, but really, outside of the flying brick powerset, I don't see Nefaria being a Superman rip-off. The source of his powers, origins, and conceptional creation are completely different, imho.
Originally posted by Q99
Teenage, quips a lot, gets power he doesn't ask for then becomes a hero with it because it's the right thing to do, lives with his family despite heroing, bug motif (even if Jaime's originated from a line going back way before Spidey).I mean, they've got a whole lot of differences but Jaime is definitely from the Peter Parker school of superheroics.
Hold up.
You're using the wrong Blue Beetle.
The original DC Blue Beetle (http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Daniel_Garrett_(Earth-Four)) was created in 1964 and had powers nothing like Spiderman. He was then succeeded by Ted Kord in 1986, who had no powers whatsoever. Jaime didn't come about until 2006.
But then, all of those were based on an original Blue Beetle that wasn't technically DC (http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Daniel_Garret_(Earth-Four)) who was created in 1939.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'll give you Glads, Hyperion, Ethan Edwards, Sentry, and others, but really, outside of the flying brick powerset, I don't see Nefaria being a Superman rip-off. The source of his powers, origins, and conceptional creation are completely different, imho.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, Steve Ditko.
Holy exaggeration batman, spidey has a red blue costume with a symbol on his chest, is a nerd and loser in his secret identity and work at a newspaper called DAILY BUGLE. He is a rip-off of superman, right? Other than having a bug motiff in common, the original BB has little in commo with spidey.So was kyle rayner and a number of other heroes.
An inspiration, certainly possible. A rip-off, no. Not anymore than Thor is a rip-off of superman.
How is Thor inspired by supes? Just because he's strong? 😕
Originally posted by abhilegend
The rest don't match to superman either other than power sets. Nefaria was a rip-off of golden age superman who couldn't fly, just jump high.
Well, Gladiator's name is Kallark and the rest of the Imperial Guard were homages to the Legion of Superheroes. Hyperion and the rest of the Squadron Supreme were homages to the Justice League. Ethan Edwards basically took Superman's origins and Skrull-a-fied it some. Sentry was heralded as the single greatest hero ever and had the solar powered/sun theme going for him.
Nefaria? Outside of powers, he really doesn't borrow any element from Superman at all. He was a rich as phuck Italian criminal mastermind lol.
Originally posted by JayDaDon
How is Thor inspired by supes? Just because he's strong? 😕
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, Gladiator's name is Kallark and the rest of the Imperial Guard were homages to the Legion of Superheroes. Hyperion and the rest of the Squadron Supreme were homages to the Justice League. Ethan Edwards basically took Superman's origins and Skrull-a-fied it some. Sentry was heralded as the single greatest hero ever and had the solar powered/sun theme going for him.Nefaria? Outside of powers, he really doesn't borrow any element from Superman at all. He was a rich as phuck Italian criminal mastermind lol.
Originally posted by Cogito
Hold up.You're using the wrong Blue Beetle.
The original DC Blue Beetle (http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Daniel_Garrett_(Earth-Four)) was created in 1964 and had powers nothing like Spiderman. He was then succeeded by Ted Kord in 1986, who had no powers whatsoever. Jaime didn't come about until 2006.
But then, all of those were based on an original Blue Beetle that wasn't technically DC (http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Daniel_Garret_(Earth-Four)) who was created in 1939.
Yea, that's what I meant- they both have bug motifs, though Jaime's is a legacy.
The similarities between Jaime and Peter are more attitude than powers.
He-Man is basically a DC character now with him having a new book published by DC and a was also originally published by DC. Also they have Toys with He-Man and Superman figures in one box you can buy at Toys R us.
That being said He-Man is DC and can lift Thor's hammer.
(I also know Marvel Published He-man for awhile)