Who in DC could lift Mjolnir

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Rulk and Count Nefaria stopped Mjolnir swing barehanded. I'm not twisting words. You're confused.

Even though you're the one who declared that we should get serious. Mhmm. 1.) So, somehow, when you're wrong on facts... you come out on top with respect to a complete non-issue. Based on an unusable non-canon crossover.

2.) Well, even based on your own rule-breaking citations to a crossover, when Superman and Thor met again in the aftermath of battle, Superman can't lift it. Whereas, the others could, even in the aftermath of battle. BRB, Masterson and Cap. Sorry that even by your own flimsy standards, your observations are both short-sighted and dim-witted.

3.) So Diana is more worthy than Thor. Based on a non-canon crossover. Smart guy. Don't be obtuse.

Just because your inept reasoning has been exposed by several people don't mean I'm e-bullying you. Stop with the crying e-victim act.

You're not taking yourself seriously at this point. And you've not given any of us any reason to either.

Now you are trolling, or you aren't very smart. I guess it's both. You probably know the difference but well, you are here to start an argument, so you might feel smart once in your life not to use reason. I'm not interested to help you with your delusions. bored

Yes we. You are always serious, I know, serious business ODG style. You aren't as witty as you want the people to believe, I know people like you and what they are worth, btw not worthy. 😉

1.) Ehm, no, you ignore the things, but well, I wouldn't expect more from you. I use reason and people who lift it, and official crossover and an inofficial one. The best one can do to make a fair judgement. Look up the word fair. 😉

2.) facepalm Jesus are you really that dense? Same comic. Two differen't instances... Wow. Never would have guessed you could be that slow. An excuse, how cute, doesn't make it better. I hope it's ok if I use your tone in my reply, and your kind of behaviour 😉.

3.) I use what you give me. Not-so-smart-Guy 😉.

I don't cry, I'm rather amused and the likes of you can't bully me 😆 just make me laugh. Your attempts are pathetic though.

You can deny all you want. But fact is, Superman lifted it, he was worthy and he can be so again. Like CA. Canon, not on this board. But well. If you don't use it because it's not canon, then it's 50-50, isn't it? Use it to discredit him or don't use it so he doesn't gets the props. Hard decision 😉. You are really easy to handle.

JLA/Avengers is canon.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Now you are trolling, or you aren't very smart. I guess it's both. You probably know the difference but well, you are here to start an argument, so you might feel smart once in your life not to use reason. I'm not interested to help you with your delusions. bored

Yes we. You are always serious, I know, serious business ODG style. You aren't as witty as you want the people to believe, I know people like you and what they are worth, btw not worthy. 😉

You can keep your personal diatribe to yourself. I understand that it's likely an attempt to deflect from the merits of your arguments going poorly, but it's boring and it doesn't work.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
1.) Ehm, no, you ignore the things, but well, I wouldn't expect more from you. I use reason and people who lift it, and official crossover and an inofficial one. The best one can do to make a fair judgement. Look up the word fair. 😉

2.) facepalm Jesus are you really that dense? Same comic. Two differen't instances... Wow. Never would have guessed you could be that slow. An excuse, how cute, doesn't make it better. I hope it's ok if I use your tone in my reply, and your kind of behaviour 😉.

3.) I use what you give me. Not-so-smart-Guy 😉.

2.) I found nothing in this comment that even began to substantively reply to my rebuttal. You wanted to analogize Superman's non-canon (and still unusable) feat to BRB's, Cap's and Masterson's. Well, for one... Thor didn't bestow Mjolnir upon them with his blessing. And second, even outside the heat of battle, they were able to lift Mjolnir just fine. That's because they were worthy. Unlike Superman, who was bestowed Mjolnir and who couldn't lift it on his own once outside the heat of battle. So your analogy remains inept and witless based on simple facts. Even the simple facts of your unusable crossover.

3.) Based on the fact that it's still a non-canon crossover, I've not given you anything. I've repeatedly pointed out that these are unusable per the rules and based on simple common sense. That you thought you gained some sort of traction from that belies your intransigience.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I don't cry, I'm rather amused and the likes of you can't bully me 😆 just make me laugh. Your attempts are pathetic though.

You can deny all you want. But fact is, Superman lifted it, he was worthy and he can be so again. Like CA. Canon, not on this board. But well. If you don't use it because it's not canon, then it's 50-50, isn't it? Use it to discredit him or don't use it so he doesn't gets the props. Hard decision 😉. You are really easy to handle.

How you try to turn a "it's not evidence per the rules, and even if it were canon, it still wouldn't prove what you're implying" into some sort of catch-22 in your favor is a mystery. Wait... no it's not. It's just you sticking your foot in your mouth and furiously arguing that you haven't kicked yourself in the a$$ with it. Tip: you have two feet, and one's planted firmly in your mouth and the other up your butt. This is not an advantageous position for you which lends itself to specious bravado.

And it's your fault.

Wonder Women would be a prime choice. As would Zealot as she lives, and breathes a warriors code, through the teaching of the Coda. In that sense she is like Wonder Women Lite.

Majestic came to mind, but his chances of lifting the Mallet are as good as Gladiators or Orion.

I say it again Superboy Prime lifts the mallet with earth attached to it.

Uh, I'm not sure how anyone here but Batman-Prime is butthurt over JLA/Avengers and what it depicts. Per forum rules, it's not canon. Yes, DC acknowledges it via the cosmic egg and yes, Marvel acknowledges it somewhat through the handbooks, but the rules are what they are. Take up with the mods. *shrug*

Furthermore, if we do use JLA/Avengers as canon proof, it blatantly shows that Superman can only use Mjolnir when Thor allows it. The fact that Superman caught Mjolnir with his palm, a feat repeated by the likes of Nefaria, Rulk, and Silver Surfer, in no way alludes that he can overpower the enchantment with sheer strength or that it makes him "worthy", and arguing that he can is either blatant fanboyism, trolling, or just being obtuse.

Superman lifting Mjolnir when Thor allows it during a crisis isn't the same as Captain America, or Eric Masterson, or Beta Ray Bill being able to use it whenever.

Why this is even being argued is absurd.

Furthermore, if we do use JLA/Avengers as canon proof, it blatantly shows that Superman can only use Mjolnir when Thor allows it. The fact that Superman caught Mjolnir with his palm, a feat repeated by the likes of Nefaria, Rulk, and Silver Surfer, in no way alludes that he can overpower the enchantment with sheer strength or that it makes him "worthy", and arguing that he can is either blatant fanboyism, trolling, or just being obtuse.

Yea, the enchantment is really about wielding it and carrying it, not just stopping it.

Stopping it is simply a matter of being strong enough to stop a high-class 100+ physical attack.

Wishful thinking that Thor allowed it. The enchantment wasn't made by him, Odin did it and supes was worthy not because of Thors wish but because of Odins enchantment. Get your facts straight, and lol @saying that disagreeing with you is trolling or fanboyism 😆 that's pathetic^^.

Per the comics, Superman isn't worthy.

Originally posted by biensalsa
I say it again Superboy Prime lifts the mallet with earth attached to it.

Or if that falls superman swings the planet at you while the hammer is still on it.

😗

Superman isn't worthy according to JLA/Avengers😛

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Wishful thinking that Thor allowed it. The enchantment wasn't made by him, Odin did it and supes was worthy not because of Thors wish but because of Odins enchantment. Get your facts straight, and lol @saying that disagreeing with you is trolling or fanboyism 😆 that's pathetic^^.

lol you're the one claiming that Superman stopping Mjolnir with his bare hands somehow translates into him being worthy. Thor threw the hammer at Superman with the intent of allowing him to use the hammer. This is further backed up by the scan just posted above.

If anyone needs to get their facts straight here, it's you.

I honestly can't follow Batman-Prime's argument or line of logic even within just a single post.

Anyways, pretty sure the consensus is the same on the 10th page as the 1st page: out of anybody in DC, Diana's the most likely.

Wait but I don't get this.

So is this scan above canon or not?

Because if it's not canon, then it is not proof, but if it is canon then is proof.

It isn't considered canon per forum rules, which don't recognize cross-overs for a number of reasons. Marvel and DC have each at some point, in some relatively insignificant way, recognized the existence of the cross-over though.

So I guess your mileage may vary. Even if you don't take it as official canon, you can guess that that might be how DC and Marvel would treat the matter in a merged universe.

Originally posted by Existere
It isn't considered canon per forum rules, which don't recognize cross-overs for a number of reasons.

So per forum rules Superman not lifting it does not count as well as wielding it.

What is Odin's standard to choose a worthy person?

Has this been stated in a canon comic? outside of JLA/Avengers than can be used?

Personally I don't care if He can wield it or not.

Originally posted by biensalsa
So per forum rules Superman not lifting it does not count as well as wielding it.

What is Odin's standard to choose a worthy person?

Has this been stated in a canon comic? outside of JLA/Avengers than can be used?

Personally I don't care if He can wield it or not.

I dont think a specific set of standards have bn given for what constitutes worthy. 😕

but, it has bn shown that people who are not worthy can wield it for a limited amount of time under certain conditions. like acts of selflessness and whatnot..

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Wishful thinking that Thor allowed it. The enchantment wasn't made by him, Odin did it and supes was worthy not because of Thors wish but because of Odins enchantment. Get your facts straight, and lol @saying that disagreeing with you is trolling or fanboyism 😆 that's pathetic^^.

it is not wishful thinking but a shown comic fact.

Originally posted by Nietzschean
I dont think a specific set of standards have bn given for what constitutes worthy. 😕

but, it has bn shown that people who are not worthy can wield it for a limited amount of time under certain conditions. like acts of selflessness and whatnot..

So he could lift it for a certain period of time.

If selflessness is the measuring stick, he has plenty of that.

Originally posted by biensalsa
So he could lift it for a certain period of time.

If selflessness is the measuring stick, he has plenty of that.

its why Superman was able to lift it in the crossover which is not canon for forum purposes. but, that only means he has to be in grave danger and out to protect others. even then he may not get the full power and transformation of the Hammer.

it was the reason why Eric was able to lift it to save Thor's life from Mongoose which was later retconned into Thor commanding his hammer to rise while Eric was holding it.

I personally think it is why Captain America as U.S. Agent was able to lift it but didnt transform into Thor.