Originally posted by Starscream M
he flew out of the container
Its closer to saying he DIVED out, which is why he skidded along the ground as he did.
Even if he flew, its exactly the same as jumping off the plane just before it hits the ground. It doesn't matter if you jump off just before its 20 feet from the ground, you're still going to die, because the speed of the airplane's fall will still apply to you.
This is the basic physics that people do not understand who are doubting Thor's fall. The height does not matter. The speed of the fall from the height, is what matters, and even if Thor flew out, he would just be adding the speed of the fall to his own flight speed.
Originally posted by CosmicCometdood, i get your point about jumping out doesnt help
Its closer to saying he DIVED out, which is why he skidded along the ground as he did.Even if he flew, its exactly the same as jumping off the plane just before it hits the ground. It doesn't matter if you jump off just before its 20 feet from the ground, you're still going to die, because the speed of the airplane's fall will still apply to you.
This is the basic thing that people do not understand who are doubting Thor's fall. The height does not matter. The speed of the fall from the height, is what matters, and even if Thor flew out, he would just be adding the speed of the fall to his own flight speed.
but do you think the writers intended that...or did they write to the general public's expectations of what would happen...I think the latter, that they intended to depict thor slowed his fall by jumping (despite it being physically wrong...but lord knows comics are not known for adhering to physics)
edit: also I think he flew rather than dove....becuz if he dove, he couldnt have smashed through that container.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Its closer to saying he DIVED out, which is why he skidded along the ground as he did.Even if he flew, its exactly the same as jumping off the plane just before it hits the ground. It doesn't matter if you jump off just before its 20 feet from the ground, you're still going to die, because the speed of the airplane's fall will still apply to you.
This is the basic physics that people do not understand who are doubting Thor's fall. The height does not matter. The speed of the fall from the height, is what matters, and even if Thor flew out, he would just be adding the speed of the fall to his own flight speed.
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Originally posted by Starscream M
dood, i get your point about jumping out doesnt helpbut do you think the writers intended that...or did they write to the general public's expectations of what would happen...I think the latter, that they intended to depict thor slowed his fall by jumping (despite it being physically wrong...but lord knows comics are not known for adhering to physics)
Originally posted by Starscream M
frankly, what you feel is of little relevance 😐
Originally posted by Starscream MDude now you're just being a pain.
frankly, what you feel is of little relevance 😐
I said I feel as though I saw Hulk with a bloody nose after Thor hit him into the plane.
If that isn't the case then so be it, but nobody is telling me it wasn't true.
If someone would like to watch the scene over again and tell me I'm wrong go ahead. 😉
It wasn't the height that was the problem, it was hitting the ground in that container. That seemed pretty obvious to me.
And even then, there is no guarantee that Thor would have been killed. People act like it's some kind of foregone conclusion. Damage was almost certain, whether it would have resulted in bruising or death is anyone's guess.
Originally posted by Newjakif you said thats how you remembered it, thats one thing. saying you feel it seems wrong to me...its too wishy washy.
Dude now you're just being a pain.I said I feel as though I saw Hulk with a bloody nose after Thor hit him into the plane.
If that isn't the case then so be it, but nobody is telling me it wasn't true.
If someone would like to watch the scene over again and tell me I'm wrong go ahead. 😉
if you remembered thor giving hulk a bloody nose, then fine, I'll go rewatch and see if I can confirm
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusthor would not have been killed imo even if he didnt escape the container
It wasn't the height that was the problem, it was hitting the ground in that container. That seemed pretty obvious to me.And even then, there is no guarantee that Thor would have been killed. People act like it's some kind of foregone conclusion. Damage was almost certain, whether it would have resulted in bruising or death is anyone's guess.
I do think thor might've died if he went through the propellers like tony did though
Originally posted by Starscream M
dood, i get your point about jumping out doesnt helpbut do you think the writers intended that...or did they write to the general public's expectations of what would happen...I think the latter, that they intended to depict thor slowed his fall by jumping (despite it being physically wrong...but lord knows comics are not known for adhering to physics)
edit: also I think he flew rather than dove....becuz if he dove, he couldnt have smashed through that container.
This isn't a comic.
This is a movie.
And movies attempt to adhere to physics more than comics, as a rule.
Besides this, I don't deal in speculation.
Since the movie doesn't attempt to give a specific explanation, we are FORCED to adhere to logic for the answer. Not 'this is what I think based on me not knowing much'.
And you have no way of knowing if a dive wouldn't have worked vs flight. What I saw was him pushing off the other wall with his leg strength and breaking out with mjolnir, if he flew, he would have...flown.
Originally posted by Starscream M
thor would not have been killed imo even if he didnt escape the containerI do think thor might've died if he went through the propellers like tony did though
Yea, based on what Thor has survived, I'd argue it wouldn't kill him or anything.
Thor was made of sterner stuff than Iron Man's armor. He might be superior in piercing damage though due to being made of metal and all that.
Originally posted by Mindset
Not fantasy/action/comic movies.
Yes they do.
Superman Returns for instance.
Fact: Thor hit the ground at the same speed, actually faster, than Hulk did. Why? Because Thor added his own propulsion from leg strength, on top of the speed of the fall still being in-tact.
But on the other end, Thor hit dirt, whereas Hulk hit a ceiling. So it balances out.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yea, based on what Thor has survived, I'd argue it wouldn't kill him or anything.Thor was made of sterner stuff than Iron Man's armor. He might be superior in piercing damage though due to being made of metal and all that.
Seeing as Thor was crushing Iron-man's armor with his bare hands and dented it with a headbutt, I'd agree.