Originally posted by jalek moyebor fought the dark avengers, and he didn't own them as much as he should've given his hype
I think he can, He's been fighting for hundreds of thousands of years and has died several times. I'm pretty sure he knows what it takes to kill him. And you find shattering an Amped Thor's with his first attack un impressive? As well as breaking Mjolnir by it hitting him?
also look at the battle damage from bor-thor fight...there wasn't that much
Originally posted by Starscream M
Im using on panel proof...Im not the one dismissing them because I don't like the writerstop being butthurt 😐
I find that hard to believe. Extremely.
Nothing WWH did supports him being able to kill Thor sans Odin Force with a single blow. And nothing WWH did suggests him being able to endure the same power capable of shattering Mjolnir upon contact.
Originally posted by Starscream M
bor fought the dark avengers, and he didn't own them as much as he should've given his hypealso look at the battle damage from bor-thor fight...there wasn't that much
lol it's pretty clear you didn't read Thor #600. He dismissed them like after thoughts.
And if you read the narration, you'd know that Bor was going to endanger the entire planet with his godly energy.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankstop strawmanning
I find that hard to believe. Extremely.Nothing WWH did supports him being able to kill Thor sans Odin Force with a single blow. And nothing WWH did suggests him being able to endure the same power capable of shattering Mjolnir upon contact.
I never said WWH can kill thor with one blow...he can't. Just said that a single hyperbolic statement does not establish bor's power.
Originally posted by Starscream M
bor fought the dark avengers, and he didn't own them as much as he should've given his hypealso look at the battle damage from bor-thor fight...there wasn't that much
There wasn't much battle damage because they fought Melee in the middle of a single street, and as you know a lot of times collateral damage doesn't really happen in comics unless people are being knocked all over the place. When Bor started using energy the planet was going to be destroyed.
I do remember him owning them pretty easily.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Okay, well, let's get something straight here.Your opinion means jack shit to me. Why you ask? Well:
A.) You don't read comics
B.) You turn up your nose at on panel proof
C.) You don't know WTF you're talking about 90% of the time.I can actually debate with people who read comics like psycho gundam, Stoic, naija boy, or Janus, whether or not I agree with them. With you, it's an exercise in futility because of your misconceptions and random arbitrary assumptions based on what you think should happen versus what has happened. In short, GTFO.
Originally posted by Starscream M
stop strawmanningI never said WWH can kill thor with one blow...he can't. Just said that a single hyperbolic statement does not establish bor's power.
How is hyperbolic? Bor, with a single almost glancing strike from his axe, broke Thor's ribs. That implies a level of power clearly beyond the norm. And yes, I'd say that breaking an amped Thor's ribs with a single blow is in line with having the power to kill a non-amped Thor with a single blow.
Funny thing is that there's more evidence supporting Thor being amped under JMS, but you'd know that if you actually read it. Thor also tanked the Destroyer's disintegration beam - the same attack which actually KILLED him before - and outside of his armor being damaged, had only some bruises and slight burns.
So yes, despite what you may THINK, OF Thor was amped significantly beyond that of his classic incarnation. And Bor was definitely impressive.
Originally posted by Starscream M
neither was that old gasbag bor capable of that 😐
Yes he was. Thor didn't say "He's stronger than anyone I've ever faced!" he said "were it not for the odinforce I'd be dead even now" and Bor gave him more than enough of a fight to make me believe it was true. Then he almost blew up the planet by standing in place and powering up. He was no joke.
Originally posted by carver9Bs. Thor beat an amped Hulk. Thor has ko'd Hulk with a lightning blast. Thor has driven off a weakened Galactus. Thor has crushed the Surfer. Has the Hulk ?
On panel proof is a b****. People will not accept anything though. There are so many showings putting current Hulk above Thor that its ludicrous. Thor fans will ignore it though.Based on showings Hulk>>Thor.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How is hyperbolic? Bor, with a single almost glancing strike from his axe, broke Thor's ribs. That implies a level of power clearly beyond the norm. And yes, I'd say that breaking an amped Thor's ribs with a single blow is in line with having the power to kill a non-amped Thor with a single blow.Funny thing is that there's more evidence supporting Thor being amped under JMS, but you'd know that if you actually read it. Thor also tanked the Destroyer's disintegration beam - the same attack which actually KILLED him before - and outside of his armor being damaged, had only some bruises and slight burns.
So yes, despite what you may THINK, OF Thor was amped significantly beyond that of his classic incarnation. And Bor was definitely impressive.
He thinks OF Thor is a mid herald. There's no arguing against that type of thought process.
Originally posted by Damborgson
He thinks OF Thor is a mid herald. There's no arguing against that type of thought process.
At absolute best, I can see someone thinking OF Thor was no more powerful than his classic incarnation due to JMS' run being less about power levels and more about characterization and story developments. Even then, when you look at his feats under JMS and compare them to Thor's portrayal before he gains the Odin Force, it's pretty obvious that he's intended to be > Thor normally.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
At absolute best, I can see someone thinking OF Thor was no more powerful than his classic incarnation due to JMS' run being less about power levels and more about characterization and story developments. Even then, when you look at his feats under JMS and compare them to Thor's portrayal before he gains the Odin Force, it's pretty obvious that he's intended to be > Thor normally.
There were instances in the arc that could have been repeated by classic Thor, such as the Ironman beat down, but he seemed to be operating at higher levels in general.
edit: btw have to say again, that to me JMS has written (maybe besides Gillen) the best Post resurrection Thor to date. I really do miss his writing.
Originally posted by Damborgson
There were instances in the arc that could have been repeated by classic Thor, such as the Ironman beat down, but he seemed to be operating at higher levels in general.
His showing against Iron Man and in Africa are all stuff I can see normal Thor doing, but his resurrection of the Asgardians and bringing Asgard and its artifacts to Midgard as well as his battles against the Destroyer Armor and Bor are clearly beyond that of Thor's normal capabilities, imo.
Come to think of it, Thor forcibly plucking Steve's spirit from his time-loop is also pretty impressive considering that time manipulation had been removed from Mjolnir's capabilities by Immortus years ago.
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Again, it's PAK's Hulk. PAK's.What kind of chance Thor got here? Heck, Pak's Hulk take every version of Thor in history for a majority.
Rune King Thor runs a train on every Hulk in history at once. You could argue regular Thor having a competitive match with WWH, let alone a Thor who's obviously amped.