.....Counter Blitzing.....

.....There seems to be certain abilities that are difficult to oppose. One in particular being the almighty "speedblitz". Generally depicted as a flurry of strikes against a seemingly motionless opponent at speeds ranging from mach to ftl. The question posed here today is what power(s) can handily counter the blitz, coming from a herald leveler?

keep it under Trans boys....and the trolling to a minimum

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Do the victims get reflexes to enable them to keep up?

If not, GL auto-shields.

Can't counter speed without having some form of speed too.

Even stopping time won't work because you need the reaction speed to engage such a power before your opponent slices your head off.

Powers like the Aquarian's Null Energy Shield are effective

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Do the victims get reflexes to enable them to keep up?

If not, GL auto-shields.

Hmmm...let me give an example. Superman is pissed and out to put you down. You can choose any powerset under trans except speed to counter his initial blitz. What is most effective? Mind-rape, transmution, etc...

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Hmmm...let me give an example. Superman is pissed and out to put you down. You can choose any powerset under trans except speed to counter his initial blitz. What is most effective? Mind-rape, transmution, etc...

that followed by being able to piss liquid kryptonite.

Intangibility

Intangibility is one I suppose but that would result in a stalemate. I was thinking a thought based attack would be more efficient

But I'd still need the reaction times, no?

Say I chose transmutation.

Superman throws a punch at my face. With a suitable reflex speed, I could transmute his arm into marshmallows.

Without it, before I can even realise that he's throwing a punch, my beautiful and oh so handsome face is smeared across his knuckles.

Unless its an aura field of some sort that is always on.

If I am able to react in time...I'd choose the powers of the Spot. I'd be unstoppable against a speed blitz, and can take Supes out.

Why did you open this?

At some point when a side is been proven wrong someone will start derailing the thread and get closed.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Hmmm...let me give an example. Superman is pissed and out to put you down. You can choose any powerset under trans except speed to counter his initial blitz. What is most effective? Mind-rape, transmution, etc...

Why does it always comes down to Superman? is like He is the measuring stick around here.

Originally posted by biensalsa
Why did you open this?

At some point when a side is been proven wrong someone will start derailing the thread and get closed.

Why does it always comes down to Superman? is like He is the measuring stick around here.

read the op and keep the trolling to a minimum. its a very good question IMO and not as silly as the thousand and one hulk threads spamming the site. You could always just ignore the thread.

And DS do you mean bfr?

Barring the reflexes to perceive their speed, you need a more exotic setup to beat a speed blitzer.

Sensory auto-shields + Sufficiently large AOE attacks. But, the AOE attacks themselves have to have speed equal to or greater than what the speed blitzer might be used to dealing with, otherwise they could simply outrun the AOE attack.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Intangibility is one I suppose but that would result in a stalemate. I was thinking a thought based attack would be more efficient

Originally posted by janus77
Thought based stuff should never work, unless the character is a speedster him/herself of some stripe.

Debatable. Wouldn't said speedster have to speed up their thoughts in order to counter?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
read the op and keep the trolling to a minimum. its a very good question IMO and not as silly as the thousand and one hulk threads spamming the site. You could always just ignore the thread.

And DS do you mean bfr?

Ok this is as simple as this

If the blitzing character moves sub-sonic and you can react and move at mach 1 You will have no problem

If the blitzing character is moving at mach one and you can react at mach you have a CHANCE to counter

If the blitzing character is moving at nanoseconds or anything higher and you can react to microseconds, it means You are waaaaaaay times slower. So You are screwed there is nothing you can do as your brain will not be able to process in time the information required to mount a defense much less an attack.

Of course COMIC BATTLES always forget about this or characters don't use their potential full speed

Originally posted by Sin I AM
.....There seems to be certain abilities that are difficult to oppose. One in particular being the almighty "speedblitz". Generally depicted as a flurry of strikes against a seemingly motionless opponent at speeds ranging from mach to ftl. The question posed here today is what power(s) can handily counter the blitz, coming from a herald leveler?

keep it under Trans boys....and the trolling to a minimum

😛

sneer

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Debatable. Wouldn't said speedster have to speed up their thoughts in order to counter?

Without FTL speed perceptions, your mind would not have fully formed an intention before your head had been cleaved from your shoulders.

Well, that's what seems most logical.

I suppose there are characters that think at FTL speeds yet for some reason cannot physically act at speeds approaching FTL.

Originally posted by biensalsa
Ok this is as simple as this

If the blitzing character moves sub-sonic and you can react and move at mach 1 You will have no problem

If the blitzing character is moving at mach one and you can react at mach you have a CHANCE to counter

If the blitzing character is moving at nanoseconds or anything higher and you can react to microseconds, it means You are waaaaaaay times slower. So You are screwed there is nothing you can do as your brain will not be able to process in time the information required to mount a defense much less an attack.

Of course COMIC BATTLES always forget about this.

I suppose but thought based attacks have been shown to affect speedsters unless the consciously sped up their thoughts. Which seems pis(y) to me since their minds have already been breached and all one would have to do is stop basic motor skills.

But I dont want this devolving into a speedblitz vs mindrape thread as there are other powers that IMO would be equally effective such as high end probability manip or uber durability/Regen and strength to match

with speedsters, durability aside, the only real question is who gets to strike first.

and ftl speedsters would always strike first (against non ftl opponents), so no mindrape possible.