Originally posted by Robtard
Pure speculation and McClane has taken on many would be terrorist before, three genius too boot.
A genius who plans out a robbery by pretending to be terrorists
A genius who plans out a 6-stage attack to destroy the US as we know it
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Who is more dangerous? I could use obvious logic, but we'll wait for a moment
I'm sorry, who's the guy who hasn't died?
Spoiler:
McClane.
I'm sorry, who's the guy who got his ass handed to him on that plane wing
Spoiler:
McClane.
Who's the guy who was about to lose unless Simon gave him a medicine bottle
Spoiler:
McClane.
Who's the guy who can withstand 20 months of torture without saying a single word and immediately after in a 24 hour period kill roughly 60 people and stop a massive terrorist attack based on his hunch alone?
Spoiler:
NOT McClane.
Originally posted by Lestov16
A genius who plans out a robbery by pretending to be terroristsA genius who plans out a 6-stage attack to destroy the US as we know it
😮
Who is more dangerous? I could use obvious logic, but we'll wait for a moment
I'm sorry, who's the guy who hasn't died?
Spoiler:
McClane.I'm sorry, who's the guy who got his ass handed to him on that plane wing
Spoiler:
McClane.Who's the guy who was about to lose unless Simon gave him a medicine bottle
Spoiler:
McClane.Who's the guy who can withstand 20 months of torture without saying a single word and immediately after in a 24 hour period kill roughly 60 people and stop a massive terrorist attack based on his hunch alone?
Spoiler:[/B]
NOT McClane.
Hans' idea was brilliant, he kept the FBI going around in circles with his rouse, thereby buying him time to rob. Hans = genius, this isn't debatable.
Sure McClane's taken a beating, no one would deny that, guess what hasn't happened though while he took those beatings? He hasn't died, unlike Bauer, who did and needed a reset.
No one's doubting Bauer's ability to kill terrorist, as long as he has a reset, he's golden. In a Vs match, there wouldn't be someone resetting his ticker after it's McStopped.
Originally posted by Robtard
No one's doubting Bauer's ability to kill terrorist, as long as he has a reset, he's golden. In a Vs match, there wouldn't be someone resetting his ticker after it's McStopped.
Sorry, but there's no way "sloppy-fight" McClane is winning against "Neck Snap" Bauer in a H2H match.
Sorry, there's also no way McClane is winning against "Take on multiple terrorist compounds in one day" Bauer in a gunfight either
Refute these. And don't mention Jack's death, because that came from an hour and a half of concentrated electroshock torture, using resources i'm sure McClane won't have in the arena.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Sorry, but there's no way "sloppy-fight" McClane is winning against "Neck Snap" Bauer in a H2H match.Sorry, there's also no way McClane is winning against "Take on multiple terrorist compounds in one day" Bauer in a gunfight either
Refute these. And don't mention Jack's death, because that came from an hour and a half of concentrated electroshock torture, using resources i'm sure McClane won't have in the arena.
McClane has proven he has superhuman durability, as he should have been shredded and/or had all his bones turned to pulp in various scenes. Bauer tries to break McClane's neck, his wrist are likely shattering, followed by yet another heart-attack.
LoL, McClane can take a bullet or two and keep going. Hell, McClane will even shoot through himself(DH4) to win the day. Bauer shot himself, he'd probably have yet another heart-attack (that's 3 now).
McClane takes on F-35 Lightning IIs and dominates them. F-35 Lighting II > Multiple terrorist compounds. /fact
Here, take these for Bauer, he's going to need a bunch of retries when he's playing against McClane.
PS, better bring a defibrillator, Bauer's going to need it again and again.
Originally posted by Robtard
McClane has proven he has superhuman durability, as he should have been shredded and/or had all his bones turned to pulp in various scenes. Bauer tries to break McClane's neck, his wrist are likely shattering, followed by yet another heart-attack.
Jack's durability shits on McClane's. He's underwent damage that would utterly demolish another human being, and not only survived, but shrugged off the pain to get into many more dangerous situations that same day. Bauer is closer to Bourne than McClane. And he will snap McClane's neck. Or bite it out. whichever's faster.
Withstood 20 months of torture without saying a word and then on the first day back proceeded to kill near-60 people
That alone shits on all of McCumshot's durability feats
Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, McClane can take a bullet or two and keep going.
Jack can take two knife wounds to the abdomen and then immediately after utterly slaughter a Russian Diplomat and his entire security staff.[QUOTE=13861031]Originally posted by Robtard
McClane takes on F-35 Lightning IIs and dominates them.
Jack also took on an F-35 Lighting II that POTUS sent directly to kill him. He saved not only himself but also the hundred or so passengers who were on the plane with him>>>McClane
Originally posted by Lestov16
Jack's durability shits on McClane's. He's underwent damage that would utterly demolish another human being, and not only survived, but shrugged off the pain to get into many more dangerous situations that same day. Bauer is closer to Bourne than McClane. And he [b]will snap McClane's neck. Or bite it out. whichever's faster.Withstood 20 months of torture without saying a word and then on the first day back proceeded to kill near-60 people
That alone shits on all of McCumshot's durability featsJack also took on an F-35 Lighting II that POTUS sent directly to kill him. He saved not only himself but also the hundred or so passengers who were on the plane with him>>>McClane [/B]
Being tortured isn't the same as surviving explosions and g-forces that would have shredded a human body. 2 bullets > 2 stabbings. Durability goes to McClane.
That's not durability per se, that's more like perseverance. Which McClane has is spades as well. As he never gives up. I'd say they're equal here when in comes to perseverance, but Bauer's need for a revive nets him a -1. So Perseverance goes to McClane, but only by a point.
Post this proof, cos I feel you may be boosting Bauer's F-35 feats due to his proven weak heart.
Originally posted by Robtard
Being tortured isn't the same as surviving explosions and g-forces that would have shredded a human body. Durability goes to McClane.That's not durability per se, that's not perseverance. Which McClane has is spades as well. As he never gives up. I'd say they're equal here when in comes to persevence, but Bauer's needs for a revive nets him a -1. So Perserences goes to McClane, but only by a point.
Post this proof, cos I feel you may be boosting Bauer's feats due to his proven weak heart.
Jack's survived MANY an explosion. Matter of fact, about 10 hours before he performed the wall-run neck snap, and compounded onto the fact that he was tortured, he survived a plane crash when his plane was shot down by mercenaries, and then proceeded to kill every single one of them. And Of course there was the time he was captured a terrorist amongst an exploding natural gas factory and got caught in the blast, and was fine for the rest of the day
Sorry, but Bauer's heart is not weak. He was electrocuted for an hour and a half. Do you honestly mean to tell me that any healthy person can survive electrocution for an hour and a half?
Originally posted by Lestov16
Jack's survived MANY an explosion. Matter of fact, about 10 hours before he performed the wall-run neck snap, and compounded onto the fact that he was tortured, he survived a plane crash when his plane was shot down by mercenaries, and then proceeded to kill every single one of them. And Of course there was the time he was captured a terrorist amongst an exploding natural gas factory and got caught in the blast, and was fine for the rest of the daySorry, but Bauer's heart is not weak. He was electrocuted for an hour and a half. Do you honestly mean to tell me that any healthy person can survive electrocution for an hour and a half?
I'm not a doctor, but I do know McClane's never died during his shenanigans. Bauer has. There are no second chances in the MVF.
McClane could definitely win...... If he can restraint Jack and then electrocute him for an hour and a half
Thing is, given how much Jack shits on McClane H2H wise, I don't think that's going to happen. And since you need nothing short of an hour and a half of electrocution to kill Bauer, and McClane doesn't have that damage output, he's not putting Bauer down for any stretch at all. Name me one time McClane's won a H2H match (not counting when he cheapshotted Mai Lihn). Let's talk about that. Unlike the Mai Lihn fight, Bauers, not just gonna turn and walk away from McClane, allowing McCalne to get the jump on him. He's going to snap McClane's neck. It's not even fanboyism. Given Jack's feats. It's very clear that's what's going to happen if they ever H2H fight.