ROTS Yoda vs. Darth Bane

Started by crisis_ryitua12 pages

Anakin's presence is non-canon. He didn't witness Mace's speed. That doesn't mean Mace's speed is, too, non-canon.

I never said that it was. Clearly Mace was using Force Speed in that fight. However, we cannot use that quote to establish how fast he was moving in that scene.

Normally, I would agree. But because of the special attention Lucas gave the novel, we must apply minimal pruning.

Lucas allowed the whole scene to contradict his own script. 'Minimal pruning' isn't the word I would use.

Minimal pruning in this case = selective pruning?

The script doesn't contradict the idea that Mace was moving at such speeds, though, only that Anakin wasn't there. {Which we agree on.}

Anakin's presence is the thing that establishes the 'such speeds' Mace was moving at. Without that we have no idea how fast he was going.

I agree with Blax, this seems more like selective pruning to me.

Perhaps a better comparison would be Anakin's observation of the remains of Kit Fisto, which the novelization depicts as sitting decapitated on Palpatine's desk. Not only does the film show that Anakin was nowhere near the bodies, it also shows that Fisto wasn't decapitated. Thus that observation and its event are both contradicted by the film. If the script or anything else contradicts Windu's speed, then I agree the entire idea is non-canon and not just Anakin's presence.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Minimal pruning in this case = selective pruning?

clearly

Originally posted by Nephthys
Anakin's presence is the thing that establishes the 'such speeds' Mace was moving at. Without that we have no idea how fast he was going.

I agree with Blax, this seems more like selective pruning to me.

Not at all.
If Lucas line-edited the novel, which we know he did, then clearly he doesn't object to the idea that Windu was moving at such tremendous speeds as observed by Anakin. That he removed Anakin to better facilitate the plot with respect to Anakin's conversion doesn't mean that we should disregard the idea that Windu can move at such speeds as observed by Anakin. It can still be used as a benchmark.

I don't see how we can get around this. There doesn't seem to be anything else to say really. Except that I've really enjoyed this discussion. It was fun.

But I think we must agree to disagree.

I enjoyed you.

I thought you were straight.

We usually are.

I always am.

Milady doth protest too much.

I love sausage.

jr_hmm01

15 inches of SHEER DYNAMITE!

wut no. not 15 inches. that's probably a lie.

Nope, I measured it very thoroughly. 😖hifty: