Superboy Prime vs Avengers

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Sodam Yat Ion was basically a slightly weaker version of a Kryptonian, with a GL ring AND ION POWER. SBP had also just started getting his powers back, and had just fought 20+ characters, most of whom where more powerful than the majority of this team. He also seemed to be toying with him most of the time. For instance, when he fought the GLs, he just let loose and started eye beaming them to death.

Most of this team, (minus Hulk of course) have had trouble taking on a weaker version of the Hulk than WWH ALL AT ONCE. The Avengers have struggled with far weaker opponents than Prime. And I think they'd either struggle with, or even be beaten by SYI.

And when Sentry is on a team, he tends to just become absolutely useless (I'm not thinking Siege, but in Civil War, Hercules arc, and some others).

For all of his supposed power, he gets beaten, drained of all his power, and marginalized a LOT.

And Sentry is probably the only one who has the speed to even keep up with Prime if he goes fast, and I doubt even he could. As far as I know his best speed feat was taking care of some problem in Libya in a very short amount of time. Which is nothing compared to Prime's speed, given that he out punched multiple flashes.

But, giving him the benefit of the doubt that he can hang with Prime in speed, those two could have a one-on-one fight before the rest of the team even knows what happened. And I don't think ANYONE thinks that one on one Sentry will last long against Prime.

Prime has some low showings, but so does everyone on the team, and for the most part, they have much lower ones than him. But none of them have higher showings that his best ones.

I don't have the patience to deconstruct it. But it boils down to this: you take Prime at his best (or some imaginary version you conjured u) and you take the team at its worst (again, some imaginary versions).

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Originally posted by carver9
I made a mistake, dang but that doeant take away from what I said.

What you said loses all value though, given your lack of knowledge about Superman and your reluctance to read the material.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
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Nope, saw that edit.

Curse your kryptonian vision and reactions

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why is Kc Superman far weaker than Prime ?

The fact that you would ask such a question proves you know nothing about Superman.

Prime is Pre-Crisis, while KC is Kal-El in the far future. KC Superman is still post Crisis era Superman.

While were at it, what the hell did KC Superman ever done that would put him in the same league as Prime.?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Depends if inverse-ninja law/jobbing is effecting the team or not.

This.

Originally posted by SquallX
The fact that you would ask such a question proves you know nothing about Superman.

Prime is Pre-Crisis, while KC is Kal-El in the far future. KC Superman is still post Crisis era Superman.

While were at it, what the hell did KC Superman ever done that would put him in the same league as Prime.?

Your point isn't exactly set in stone, though.

For once, Quan's question actually has merit.

[QUOTE=13877905]Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
[B]I almost feel bad correcting you, because it's starting to feel like I'm beating up on a handicapped retard.

haha priceless.

Originally posted by SquallX
The fact that you would ask such a question proves you know nothing about Superman.

Prime is Pre-Crisis, while KC is Kal-El in the far future. KC Superman is still post Crisis era Superman.

While were at it, what the hell did KC Superman ever done that would put him in the same league as Prime.?

Earth 22 Superman's portrayal is pretty high end as elite top tiers go.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prime isn't precrisis. You just made that up. All characters were scaled way down since then. I doubt anyone thinks Prime is beyond Earth 22 Superman.

Earth 22 Superman's portrayal is pretty high end as elite top tiers go.

He didn't make it up.

Originally posted by -Pr-
He didn't make it up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prime isn't precrisis powers. That's ridiculous.

For a time he was considered a pre-crisis Kryptonian. Whether it's true that he's that powerful or not, he didn't make it up.

Originally posted by -Pr-
For a time he was considered a pre-crisis Kryptonian. Whether it's true that he's that powerful or not, he didn't make it up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The point is all those characters were leveled way down with the rest of the universe since then. It's like saying Earth 2 Superman still has precrisis powers. The writers ignore that.

That wasn't the point being argued, though.

Originally posted by -Pr-
That wasn't the point being argued, though.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His post isn't relevant. His precrisis powers are ignored since his reintroduction of the dcu. I get your point but saying he still has those same powers is irrelevant because he clearly isn't anywhere near as powerful as a precrisis k-nian currently.

His post might have been irrelevant to an extent, but that doesn't change the fact that your post was wrong.

And Prime hasn't been in the nDCU that i've seen.

Originally posted by -Pr-
His post might have been irrelevant to an extent, but that doesn't change the fact that your post was wrong.

And Prime hasn't been in the nDCU that i've seen.

Prime hasn't appeared in the new DC, has he?

I think it would be hilarious if Prime just punches his way back into DCnU in the attempt to make things back the way they were.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think it would be hilarious if Prime just punches his way back into DCnU in the attempt to make things back the way they were.

Heh. I can see that happening.