WBH vs Team

Started by Silent Master13 pages
Originally posted by h1a8
What does that got to do with Thor hurting WBH?

I wanted to see high you place WBH's durability.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
*sees current state of the thread*

Originally posted by Silent Master
I wanted to see high you place WBH's durability.

High enough to not be bothered by Thor's physical attacks, which is the only relevant thing needed here.

Originally posted by h1a8
High enough to not be bothered by Thor's physical attacks, which is the only relevant thing needed here.

So you place WBH's durability above skyfather/Galactus level.

Originally posted by h1a8
High enough to not be bothered by Thor's physical attacks, which is the only relevant thing needed here.

Don't be silly.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Don't be silly.

We are not talking about Hulk but WBH which is different. He tanked a force well beyond what Thor was ever shown to output.

Originally posted by h1a8
We are not talking about Hulk but WBH which is different. He tanked a force well beyond what Thor was ever shown to output.

I would say average Thor instead of Thor because Thor just like other characters have high showings and looking at his highest showings, he should be able.to damage Hulk (but Hulk would heal nigh instantly).

Originally posted by carver9
I would say average Thor instead of Thor because Thor just like other characters have high showings and looking at his highest showings, he should be able.to damage Hulk (but Hulk would heal nigh instantly).

That just goes to show how often comics contradict each other, for example Thor and Bill can crack Galactus' armour and yet even when red with rage still can't KO Hulk by bashing him in the head. Even when depowered Galactus' should still be leagues above heralds.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So you place WBH's durability above skyfather/Galactus level.

There is no such thing as skyfather level or Galactus level durability since a skyfather level being can have high herald level durability and still be a skyfather. A being that can destroy the universe can be killed with a bullet to the brain in fiction.

Also there is no such thing since comic being's durability fluctuate in various degrees (from PIS to slight variance). Gas stations ko Superman and Thing gives WWH a bloody face with just one punch when he was never able to affect a weaker Hulk with his best punch. So you have to name which skyfather and the degree (low end, average, or high end).

With that said, the point of your question is to put me in a dilemma.

1. If I say no, then you suggest that since Thor has affected Skyfathers then by ABC logic he should be able to affect WBH. The problem with that is it ignores the existence of low showings and fluctuation of durability in comics. Otherwise, I can prove that Thing has the punching power of Sentry (which contradicts him not being able to affect Savage Hulk with his best punch). And also, it falsely concludes that since Gladiator destroyed planets with mere punches then Thing has planetary level durability since he didn't die when Glads hit him.

2. If I say yes, then you just dismiss my entire argument and attempt to make me out as a troll.

I'll say this. Thor at his best never produced the force nor a greater force than that of which WBH tanked when colliding with Betty. If you disagree then provide proof through a feat that counters this statement.

People have already listed characters that Thor has hurt/affected, including skyfathers/Galactus and Celestials etc, and those were done without any of the OF

So you're basically saying that WBH is far more durable than any of them.

Originally posted by Silent Master
People have already listed characters that Thor has hurt/affected, including skyfathers/Galactus and Celestials etc, and those were done without any of the OF

So you're basically saying that WBH is far more durable than any of them.

I repeat:

...then you suggest that since Thor has affected Skyfathers then by ABC logic he should be able to affect WBH. The problem with that is it ignores the existence of low showings and fluctuation of durability in comics. Otherwise, I can prove that Thing has the punching power of Sentry (which contradicts him not being able to affect Savage Hulk with his best punch). And also, it falsely concludes that since Gladiator destroyed planets with mere punches then Thing has planetary level durability since he didn't die when Glads hit him.

Address that and stop trolling.

The same argument that you're using to dismiss Thor's feats can easily be used to dismiss WBH's feats.

H1 is owning.

Originally posted by carver9
H1 is owning.
Owning snake eyes is pretty much as easy as it gets.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The same argument that you're using to dismiss Thor's feats can easily be used to dismiss WBH's feats.

Thor's feats aren't being dismissed, the same way Thing bloodying WWH's face isn't dismissed although earlier he couldn't phase a weaker Hulk with his best punch. 🙄 No one is dismissing anything. Trust me.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor's feats aren't being dismissed, the same way Thing bloodying WWH's face isn't dismissed although earlier he couldn't phase a weaker Hulk with his best punch. 🙄 No one is dismissing anything. Trust me.

IOW, you'll ignore all Thor's feats that are above "being unable to phase a weaker Hulk".

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, you'll ignore all Thor's feats that are above "being unable to phase a weaker Hulk".

Not really. Thor has the power to not only affect but kill a weaker Hulk.

Originally posted by h1a8
Not really. Thor has the power to not only affect but kill a weaker Hulk.

Based on feats, OF Thor has the power to beat WBH.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Based on feats, OF Thor has the power to beat WBH.

Of course he does. IMO, any high herald being can beat WBH (through exotic means or bfr). Not so sure they can through blunt force or straight energy blast damage though.

Maybe OF Thor can beat WBH through sheer blunt force or energy blast ability. We need to analyze precisely why this is the case though and not look only one-sided at things. We need to consider what both have done and how do they compare.

If you believe that OF Thor can beat WBH through blunt force or energy blast only then that would mean that you have an opinion on the upper limit of WBH's durability. Was it ever shown? Did OF Thor damage something that was proven through feats to have a sufficient durability against anything WBH endured?
If so then explain.

We base WBH's durability on his comic feats, just like we do for every comic character, that said, based on feats OF Thor is more than powerful enough to beat WBH.