Why I left Islam

Started by TheBigManRevo5 pages
Originally posted by Robtard
The sodomy.

sodomy?? I think it's not prohibted but not encouraged what about that?

Originally posted by TheBigManRevo
mmmmmmmmmmmm

are christianity insults women too

In the church I was born into, women could not speak in the church, and they covered their heads.

Originally posted by TheBigManRevo
sodomy?? I think it's not prohibted but not encouraged what about that?

He is joking. 😉 He is a good guy, but like me, he jokes all the time.

you were catholic or orthodox and they do that all the time

Originally posted by TheBigManRevo
you were catholic or orthodox and they do that all the time

It was protestant.

since when protstants do that fundmentalists even do not do that

Congratulations on leaving Islam. You've covered all the most important points about Islam.

Here's a particularly disgusting Hadith. Mo was such an *******:

Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 809
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

A Jew and a Jewess were brought to Allah's Apostle on a charge of committing an illegal sexual intercourse. The Prophet asked them. "What is the legal punishment (for this sin) in your Book (Torah)?" They replied, "Our priests have innovated the punishment of blackening the faces with charcoal and Tajbiya." 'Abdullah bin Salam said, "O Allah's Apostle, tell them to bring the Torah." The Torah was brought, and then one of the Jews put his hand over the Divine Verse of the Rajam (stoning to death) and started reading what preceded and what followed it. On that, Ibn Salam said to the Jew, "Lift up your hand." Behold! The Divine Verse of the Rajam was under his hand. So Allah's Apostle ordered that the two (sinners) be stoned to death, and so they were stoned. Ibn 'Umar added: So both of them were stoned at the Balat and I saw the Jew sheltering the Jewess.

Originally posted by TheBigManRevo
you were catholic or orthodox and they do that all the time

Orthodox are chilled out a lot. Copts too. Western Christianity has gone a bit weird for reasons unknown, but Eastern one is far less crazy (no witch burning or anything like that).

is the Stonning to death is from torah Since When It's a crime how does god make crimes

Exactly. Besides, Jews already said that they don't stone anymore but blacken the faces. They didn't want to make that punishment any more. Mo MADE them get stoned.

There's just no need for that.

yea but I know a going to and fro I'm religion less now I'm so confused

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Here's a particularly disgusting Hadith. Mo was such an *******:

Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 809
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

A Jew and a Jewess were brought to Allah's Apostle on a charge of committing an illegal sexual intercourse. The Prophet asked them. "What is the legal punishment (for this sin) in your Book (Torah)?" They replied, "Our priests have innovated the punishment of blackening the faces with charcoal and Tajbiya." 'Abdullah bin Salam said, "O Allah's Apostle, tell them to bring the Torah." The Torah was brought, and then one of the Jews put his hand over the Divine Verse of the Rajam (stoning to death) and started reading what preceded and what followed it. On that, Ibn Salam said to the Jew, "Lift up your hand." Behold! The Divine Verse of the Rajam was under his hand. So Allah's Apostle ordered that the two (sinners) be stoned to death, and so they were stoned. Ibn 'Umar added: So both of them were stoned at the Balat and I saw the Jew sheltering the Jewess.

I do not quite understand what is happening, here. Could you summarize what happened, here?

I understand. It's not about not believing in God, it's about not being scared. Allah wants to be feared, and Muhammad wanted to be feared. Fear is a bad emotion.

When you think something, that's NOT Shaytan whispering, that's your intellect trying to be free.

Read here -
www.faithfreedom.org (I don't know if it's banned where you are or not).

Some People came to mohd and he asked them what do you do if one fornicates they said that they'll stone them to death so he ordered evidence so they gave him the verse from torah so he ordred to punish the certin fornicators to be stonned to death thay's it

it's ****in' banned

Originally posted by dadudemon
I do not quite understand what is happening, here. Could you summarize what happened, here?

You gotta get accustomed to the Hadiths, they're written in such a weird way, for some reason.

Ok, so basically two Jews were brought to Mo and it was said they committed adultery. Mo asked ''what is the punishment for adultery in your books. The Jews said that their priests have innovated the punishment so nobody gets killed, but their faces are coloured with charcoal, to show the shame, but they don't practice the act of stoning any more. Muhammad took their book, Torah, found the passage on stoning and ordered them executed.

The Jew was trying to shelter the Jewess as the stones are being thrown at them.

In other words, 7th century Jews of Arabia understood the wrong act of taking a life for illegal sexual act and stop practising it. Mo made them get stoned.

Originally posted by TheBigManRevo
it's ****in' banned

Nooooo!! 🙁

That's a really good source of information based on the life of Moh and his sunnah and the Qur'an.
Shame it's blocked. Lots and lots and lots of information.

Man who made the site said he will give $60 000 to anyone who proves him wrong. Nobody did yet.

mmm it's not blocked I meant converting from islam

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
You gotta get accustomed to the Hadiths, they're written in such a weird way, for some reason.

Ok, so basically two Jews were brought to Mo and it was said they committed adultery. Mo asked ''what is the punishment for adultery in your books. The Jews said that their priests have innovated the punishment so nobody gets killed, but their faces are coloured with charcoal, to show the shame, but they don't practice the act of stoning any more. Muhammad took their book, Torah, found the passage on stoning and ordered them executed.

The Jew was trying to shelter the Jewess as the stones are being thrown at them.

That's what I thought. But there were titles and names thrown out everywhere, making me think that I may be confusing something. It was the part about who was covering up the verses n'stuff. Who was? Another Jew or the accused Jew?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
In other words, 7th century Jews of Arabia understood the wrong act of taking a life for illegal sexual act and stop practising it. Mo made them get stoned.

So they were forced to smoke weed? That sounds like a happy ending. baked

Yes, I'm just kidding.

Hope that sex was good stuff.

Originally posted by TheBigManRevo
mmm it's not blocked I meant converting from islam

The man who made the website, Ali Sina is an ex-Muslim from Iran.
There are more:

Wafa Sultan - Ex Muslimah from Syria - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv8_iew6EuQ

Musab Hassan Yusuf - Ex-Muslim from Palestine - son of leader of Hamas, now a Christian - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHq25tnZoFs

IQ Al rasooli, ex Muslim from Iraq - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBkd0JCsgl0 (he has MANY videos)

Ibn Warraq: ex muslim from Pakistan - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4aY6kEO3cw

Noonie Darwish - Ex Muslimah from Egypt - many youtube clips with her

Ayaan Hirsi Ali - Ex Muslimah from Somalia - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe_cuzsmmHU

Walid Shoebat - Ex Muslim from Palestine - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD5Wf4oM_oI (He's a Christian now)

There are more, I can link you later if you wish.

Originally posted by TheBigManRevo
sodomy?? I think it's not prohibted but not encouraged what about that?

Pretty sure anal-sex is condemned in Islam, even between husband and wife. Such a boring religion, imo.

LilB, Anal in Islam, yay or nay?