Anti-Monitor vs Adam Warlock

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Read the first post.

Yeah, I read it. My bad.

Except this isn't a forum fight, it's a scenerio fight. The question is whether Warlock can stop AM, not whether Warlock and team can beat AM long enough for a tap out. If that's the case, the team has an even better chance to win since Death and Oblivion start the beat down on AM to knock him out for the 3 count. Prep and the element of surprise is on their side.

No, its a forum fight based on a scenario. Where was death when chaos king destroying the multiverse? Oh right, she fled outside it. You are giving death and obilivion too much credit here. Here is your mighty obilivion getting beaten by ICEMAN.

Thanos was immortal but not invulnerable - true. But that doesn't mean she can't make him invulnerable.

How does AM win again? He kills the heroes, only to power up the Abstracts who resurrect their champions to attack him again.

By destroying their physical forms long enough to score a forum win. Considering it took thanos a lot of time to come back from being reduced to skeleton, being destroyed to their basic atoms would take a reasonably long time to come back. Except anti-matter doesn't erases someone from existence and that renders your oblivion argument moot.

@Abhilegend

Thanos was only destroyed by that anti matter bomb due to being weakened. That's like me using a k-nite weakened Superman as evidence of what someone else can due to him while ignoring he's weakened.

You also cite pis often but want to use Oblivion's lowest showing ever. Is that how he's normally portrayed ? I can play this game though. Trust me.

Adam recruits Protoge.

Protoge then copies AM's powers 😄 for the win.

Originally posted by quanchi112
@Abhilegend

Thanos was only destroyed by that anti matter bomb due to being weakened. That's like me using a k-nite weakened Superman as evidence of what someone else can due to him while ignoring he's weakened.

You also cite pis often but want to use Oblivion's lowest showing ever. Is that how he's normally portrayed ? I can play this game though. Trust me.

Why not? You always play this game quan.

Originally posted by Igniz
Adam recruits Protoge.

Protoge then copies AM's powers 😄 for the win.

Originally posted by abhilegend
His AOD powers weren't weakened, were they? Anyway he had gathered "too much power" between that and CCU blast and after returning from that was pwning revengers left and right.

Why not? You always play this game quan.
LT is banned so protege would be banned too.

My debating is consistent yours isn't. I don't argue pis and what not. You selectively choose what counts and what doesn't.

Originally posted by Igniz
Adam recruits Protoge.

Protoge then copies AM's powers 😄 for the win.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, I read it. My bad.

No, its a forum fight based on a scenario. Where was death when chaos king destroying the multiverse? Oh right, she fled outside it. You are giving death and obilivion too much credit here. Here is your mighty obilivion getting beaten by ICEMAN.

Thanks for showing some pic every knows about to prove nothing. Who was it that nearly got killed by Supergirl? Death ran from Chaos King for story sake. Heck by that point CK was the equivalent of Oblivion. Oblivion wasn't there because Pak use substituting CK for Oblivion's position. It was a hack story considering CK back down from Zom when they met. The same Zom that was killed by Marlo with a small fraction of Death in her being. Do you understand that? Zom, who Eternity and Dormammu locked away, was kill by a girl with a small fragment of Death inside of her. Story was hack, cosmology messed up, so Pak could write his ridiculous ending to Hercules.

Irrelevant hypothetical scenario. She made him an avatar of death and he got reduced to skeleton by an anti matter mine. Later he said that he is invulnerable to any attack which mantis speculated earlier.

She made him an avatar, not invulnerable. You act as if anti-matter is so special that death couldn't even overcome it if she wanted too. She shielded Eros and Nebula from a Infinity Gauntlet attack which Eros thought was going to kill them.

And? Just like in thanos imperative right? Oh wait........

We are talking about attacks that destroy almost infinite universeS. Death is universal abstract and the last time an attack of such proportion came her way, she tucked her bony tail between her legs and ran away.

Death is a multiversal abstract depending on stories. It says he's attacking the MU, not just the 616. When did she run away from such an attack?

Really? She is beyond matter? What kind of argument is that? Do you have any proof or you are just making this up?

Other than the fact that she's an abstract and not a physical being? You throw anti-matter at Death and your gonna beat her how? It's like you attack the void with anti-matter? What's anti-matter destroying in the void? What you see of these beings are merely M-bodies. It's a manifestation of them, not actually them. Oh snap, anti-matter's gonna destroy the universe and leave the void! Oblivion is soooooooo scared!

Considering death has been killed before in 616 and cancerverse, I find that a little hard to believe. Big whoop, AM destroyed almost infinite universeS. So is galactus, guess what happens to him against AM? Except anti-matter doesn't nullify beings or destroy space-time. That's entropy.

Galactus is not an abstract in the way Death and Oblivion are. What concept does Galactus represent? Galactus has a physical body under most depictions, the abstracts like Death and Oblivion manifest using M-Bodies, it's not actually them.

Death has been killed by ritual magic backed by Chtulhu gods from another universe. Gods that include Shuma Gorath who's conquered thousands of dimensions. Anti-matter isn't magic genius. And what happened then was it made that universe's residents immortal. So guess what? Killing Death would make this team immortal. Nice plan. By the way, Kubik warped an entire universe into his hand. I think him and Shaper are really afraid of an anti-matter attack. Please.

Then what does anti-matter do then?

By destroying their physical forms long enough to score a forum win. Considering it took thanos a lot of time to come back from being reduced to skeleton, being destroyed to their basic atoms would take a reasonably long time to come back. Except anti-matter doesn't erases someone from existence and that renders your oblivion argument moot.

Destroying atoms? Yeah good one. I mean it's not like the Cosmic Cube or the Cube Beings themselves can bend the laws of the universe at their whim despite all those showings where they have. All those showings of them playing with atoms, bringing consciousness to drawings and plants, turning people into plants and or water, creating an entire universe, they're gonna be useless against "anti-matter". It's not like the Cosmic Cubes draw their powers from a source outside the multiverse that the Tribual allows to seep in. Apparently anti-matter would also some how trump the void of space or the lack of life. Great argument there buddy. Anti-matter destroys the void/Oblivion. How does that work? I don't see Eternity being one of the abstracts I mentioned Warlock would recruit. Ain't this nice. The Anti-Monitor gets to fight Death and Oblivion in their own realms by collapsing universes and expanding these abstracts domain/power base. Where basically even the dead and annihilated are soldiers of these abstracts. Good plan Anti-Monitor, good plan. Warlock would play you like a fool.

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Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Thanks for showing some pic every knows about to prove nothing. Who was it that nearly got killed by Supergirl? Death ran from Chaos King for story sake. Heck by that point CK was the equivalent of Oblivion. Oblivion wasn't there because Pak use substituting CK for Oblivion's position. It was a hack story considering CK back down from Zom when they met. The same Zom that was killed by Marlo with a small fraction of Death in her being. Do you understand that? Zom, who Eternity and Dormammu locked away, was kill by a girl with a small fragment of Death inside of her. Story was hack, cosmology messed up, so Pak could write his ridiculous ending to Hercules.

Yeah, it does. Oblivion was beaten by frigging ICEMAN. Nice to know that a PC kryptonian who was getting her highest showing a usual for dying heroes is only comparable to iceman. It was a shit story but its canon and you are talking about the same zom who was exorcised by hiroim? That was a zomling who doesn't have the powers of full zom. When did CK backed away from Zom? He was the one who bonded zom to strange forcefully. When has oblivion showed the power to absorb entire multiverse because you are claiming that CK was equivalent to oblivion? Its canon no matter how much internet defenders of marvel cosmic dignity ***** about it.

She made him an avatar, not invulnerable. You act as if anti-matter is so special that death couldn't even overcome it if she wanted too.

Originally posted by dmills
[B]Classic Sphinx vs The FF and Inhumans...

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After that is when the King ambushes him...

The Sphinx warped Egypt into a super power.

Takes Firestars full power blast to the chest (all available electromagnetic energy in the atmosphere) just to see what she's got... Some other interesting tidbits in the dialogue as well.

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The two Sphinx's, Meryet the female and the true Sphinx, Anuth merge into one Sphinx...

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Those two Sphinx's make up the being of the current incarnation...

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Meryet is the female counterpart who gained a large portion of the original Sphinx's powers. She's the one that warped 616 into her own vision of the way things should be. You'd have to read the arc to understand how thoroughly she altered reality and time. The Egyptian gods seemed to have replaced the Asgardian gods in prominence, some heroes had been completely depowered and were living normal lives. Captains America was a dark skinned dude lol. Firelord was a woman. Horus replaced Thor etc. Interestingly, only Nova and to a lessor degree, Iron Man realized something was wrong with the way things were.

Meryet takes on just about every significant hero and villain on Earth. Starts wiping them out right off the bat... (something Thanos would need the Infinity gauntlet or some other artifact to do 😉

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Warps 616 back to normal...

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And in true keeping with his motives, after reclaiming all of his power he gives her the key to defeating him.

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I'll be back after work to post more scans. Eye beams that transcend time thus bypassing shields, strength, ability to pick opponents off at literally any "time" he chooses etc.

Nxt yu would be telling me that all of these peeps can survive an attack which consumed almost infinite universes and had nearly ended creation if harbinger hadn't used the power of Monitor and pulled all five remaining universes out of its path. Please.

Then what does anti-matter do then?

Destroy them?

Destroying atoms? Yeah good one. I mean it's not like the Cosmic Cube or the Cube Beings themselves can bend the laws of the universe at their whim despite all those showings where they have.

All those showings of them playing with atoms, bringing consciousness to drawings and plants, turning people into plants and or water, creating an entire universe, they're gonna be useless against "anti-matter". It's not like the Cosmic Cubes draw their powers from a source outside the multiverse that the Tribual allows to seep in.

Apparently anti-matter would also some how trump the void of space or the lack of life.

Anti-matter destroys the void/Oblivion. How does that work?

I don't see Eternity being one of the abstracts I mentioned Warlock would recruit.

Ain't this nice. The Anti-Monitor gets to fight Death and Oblivion in their own realms by collapsing universes and expanding these abstracts domain/power base.

Where basically even the dead and annihilated are soldiers of these abstracts. Good plan Anti-Monitor, good plan. Warlock would play you like a fool.

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Yeah good luck fighting an Anti-monitor who has absorbed several universes worth of energies by souls of deceased beings considering oblivion isn't getting shit with anti matter destroying universes. The last time someone like Anti-monitor came to MU who has absorbed energies of several universes and someone with a plan to stop him, it didn't went well for MU. What artifacts grandmaster used to stop krona and what happened to him afterwards btw?

Wow, Strange uses all three mystic deities into an attack that momentarily disperses a manifestation of Death. He's beating Death for realz bro. Go see Thanos Imperative where Death wrecks an entire universe of Gods which the Dr Strange of that universe was a servant to.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, it does. Oblivion was beaten by frigging ICEMAN. Nice to know that a PC kryptonian who was getting her highest showing a usual for dying heroes is only comparable to iceman. It was a shit story but its canon and you are talking about the same zom who was exorcised by hiroim? That was a zomling who doesn't have the powers of full zom. When did CK backed away from Zom? He was the one who bonded zom to strange forcefully. When has oblivion showed the power to absorb entire multiverse because you are claiming that CK was equivalent to oblivion? Its canon no matter how much internet defenders of marvel cosmic dignity ***** about it.

Like I said you are going by hypothetical scenario, I am going from on panel proof. Guess which is more reliable?

That's in the same vain as thanos surviving an IG blast and surfer blowing the hands of ruin with IG. Considering a wall of anti-matter that destroy infinite universes is nothing special is just plain stupid. Like I said the last time such an attack came her way deth fled outside the multiverse.

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Yeah and Thanos imperative showed otherwise when cancerverse death was killed by many angle ones. Look above.

Any proof of this theory of yours? Considering she has been harmed by conventional means your theory is quite absurd to say the least.

Considering in these types of threads the matter of how an attack is used is not important, the power to harm is what's important.

Yeah, he is. Not my words, death herself says it.
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Galactus has no true form either.

Yeah, now shuma gorath who has been beaten by Dr. strange is above Anti-monitor too. How many abstracts are their in marvel? Is silver surfer an abstract too since he defeated an IG wielder? Like I said at these levels the type of attack is irrelevant, what matters is the power to harm someone. Guess what, AM destroyed a whole multiverse and fought a fully backed spectre amped by several of the most powerful mages including a 5-D Imp and survived a blast that created another multiverse and sent spectre in coma. You are acting like magic is some kind of abstract power which can't be beaten by cosmic powers. At the level we're talking about they as well be the same. It wouldn't make their bodies immune to physical harm which is enough for a forum win. Thank you good sir.

Thunderbolt has warped entire multiverse pre-crisis and he was shitting his pants seeing the anti-matter wall. Maaldor created a whole new universe by his internal energies and was killed as an afterthought by the same attack IIRC. Warping a universe is just routine exercise in marvel. Legion has done it

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Sphinx has done it too and later reversed it.

Nxt yu would be telling me that all of these peeps can survive an attack which consumed almost infinite universes and had nearly ended creation if harbinger hadn't used the power of Monitor and pulled all five remaining universes out of its path. Please.

Destroy them?

Thunderbolt can do the same, mxy can do it better than everyone you mentioned and what did he do? Lock 5th dimension because he was scared shitless and for his good fortune its outside the regular DC multiverse. Like I said earlier its not the manner of attack that is relevant here, its the power. You actually think that if COIE anti-monitor come to marvel, cube beings would stop him? Really? Kubic has said himself that a random celestial is far beyond them. A cube being aka molecule man has been beaten by a watcher, by claw and by voidtry. Try again. So, they are going to destroy everything to stop AM? Great argument there buddy.

I think Marvel writers read your post and decide to explain things draw pictures along with words so you can understand who Oblivion is.

Thanks to Guy for the scans.
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When has oblivion showed the power to absorb entire multiverse because you are claiming that CK was equivalent to oblivion?

Funny, stuff 'cuz apparently Mikaboshi is merely one aspect of the Infinity that is Oblivion. This one aspect absorbed most of the multiverse.

Yeah good luck fighting an Anti-monitor who has absorbed several universes worth of energies by souls of deceased beings considering oblivion isn't getting shit with anti matter destroying universes?

Oh shit, really? AM absorbed several universes? CK did the equivalent of that and he was just an aspect of Oblivion. Ironically most fans speculated this about CK but Marvel never made it clear until now.

The last time someone like Anti-monitor came to MU who has absorbed energies of several universes and someone with a plan to stop him, it didn't went well for MU. What artifacts grandmaster used to stop krona and what happened to him afterwards btw?

Speaking of that, when was the last time that happened canonically in the MU? The only canonical thing regarding universe eaters was the Rot and the Hunger. The Rot was stopped by Death and Thanos. The Hunger was beaten by Thanos and Galactus. Avengers/JLA was a crossover and treated as such non-canon event to Marvel.

Not always and unless its been shown or referenced that the abstract appearing in a comic is using a M-body, its not a auto retcon that the losing of an abstract is due to M-bodies. Considering he would get beat senseless if he tries to fight AM directly, he should be scared.

Scared of AM? I haven't seen anything showing Oblivion is scared of any being. In fact, Oblivion even points out what you see is a manifestation of him.

AM does something one aspect of the infinite power that is Oblivion accomplished and we should think AM can beat Oblivion backed by Death? Your silliness has no ends.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
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Funny, stuff 'cuz apparently Mikaboshi is merely one aspect of the Infinity that is Oblivion. This one aspect absorbed most of the multiverse.

Oh shit, really? AM absorbed several universes? CK did the equivalent of that and he was just an aspect of Oblivion. Ironically most fans speculated this about CK but Marvel never made it clear until now.

Scared of AM? I haven't seen anything showing Oblivion is scared of any being. In fact, Oblivion even points out what you see is a manifestation of him.

AM does something one aspect of the infinite power that is Oblivion accomplished and we should think AM can beat Oblivion backed by Death? Your silliness has no ends.

😂 👆 I think someone just got owned.

I love how Adam Warlock vs Anti-Monitor turns into Anti-Monitor versus....everyone but Adam Warlock...

Originally posted by Igniz
😂 👆 I think someone just got owned.

👆

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Wow, Strange uses all three mystic deities into an attack that momentarily disperses a manifestation of Death. He's beating Death for realz bro. Go see Thanos Imperative where Death wrecks an entire universe of Gods which the Dr Strange of that universe was a servant to.

Yeah anytime someone beats an abstract its just an M-body. I've heard that excuse before and just laughed at that. You have any proof that it was just a manifestation? Anyway strange is hardly an abstract. I've seen that already and wasn't impressed. Beating some no named elder gods is hardly worth mentioning for someone like Daeth. The only name we got was shuma-gorath and the guy has been beaten senseless by strange at less than full power.

I think Marvel writers read your post and decide to explain things draw pictures along with words so you can understand who Oblivion is.

Thanks to Guy for the scans.

AM does something one aspect of the infinite power that is Oblivion accomplished and we should think AM can beat Oblivion backed by Death? Your silliness has no ends.

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Oh yeah, now that oblivion told us that he is infinite and what one aspect of him did with outside amp, he literally has infinite power. LMAO. He shows us his infinite power very well here by getting his ass beat by Iceman.

Marvel fanboys in general are silly when they can't differentiate between boasting and facts. Well, death fled from one aspect of Oblivion, I don't think she can do anything of importance here except banning souls from entering her realm.

Originally posted by Igniz
😂 👆 I think someone just got owned.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Abhilegend was severely owned.

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Go cheerleaders. Have you brought your pom-poms, girls?

Iceman beating Oblivion is PIS, honestly.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Iceman beating Oblivion is PIS, honestly.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Come now jake, it was a glorious feat for oblivion's infinite power.

It's PIS. 😂

Canon, sure, but a lot of instances of PIS are canon. In any case, it doesn't really have any place in a legitimate versus thread.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah anytime someone beats an abstract its just an M-body. I've heard that excuse before and just laughed at that. You have any proof that it was just a manifestation? Anyway strange is hardly an abstract. I've seen that already and wasn't impressed. Beating some no named elder gods is hardly worth mentioning for someone like Daeth. The only name we got was shuma-gorath and the guy has been beaten senseless by strange at less than full power.

It was Death's manifestation. Death is abstract/concept, not a physical being with actual form geez. It's been started numerous times and in the same manner Oblivion states it. What you see isn't truly them.

So because they have no names your gonna act like they aren't powerful? But these no names happened to beat the might of well known cosmics that included Galactus, Aegis, Tenebrous, and a host of Celestials. And if I recall, those were the minions of the Elder Gods, not even them. Death comes in and, with one attack, puts an entire universe of these gods down where a host Celestial beings failed miserably. No, I see your valid point there buddy.

So you want me to know about the future comics when I post something? Cool. You know what, it makes oblivion even more pathetic when one aspect of him has to draw power from almost every god in 616 to absorb the multiverse. You are talking like being an aspect of some abstract means he is just a minuscule part of him. Nope, infinity and eternity are aspects of each other too.

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Except for the part where Marvel spells it out to you that Mikaboshi is one aspect of the INFINITY that is Oblivion? Infinity and Eternity are opposites of the same coin. Oblivion/Marvel considers CK not to be him and that's why CK lost. Because CK is not Oblivion, just one aspect of the infinity that is Oblivion. Lol. Infinity and Eternity are considered equals. Your attempt at fail is hilarious.

This just makes oblivion look even worse when one aspect of him gets beaten and imprisoned by Japanese gods and later beaten by ares.

Lol. What? That's like trying to claim AM's shadow demons lost to the JLA and therefore it makes AM look worse. Probes lost to Doomsday and Wonder Woman. Man it looks terrible for Imperiex Prime, they'll beat him up!

By drawing the power from nearly every god in 616 reality and then got stalemated by a skyfather.

Wait wait. The same Herc that ascended beyond skyfather? The one that repaired the entire multiverse? The one that gained near omnipotence through a combination of godly items across multiple pantheon? Please, Zeus was a skyfather. Sharra & K'ythri are skyfathers. Kly'bn and Sl'gur't are skyfathers. Mikaboshi stomped all of them and even then he wasn't at the height of his powers like when he fought Herc and stomped Herc.

Yeah, he absorbed nearly infinite universes on his own power. CK did it with help and even then he was stalemated by a skyfather. Speculation isn't a valid and now when its established that CK is just another form of oblivion, it makes him look even worse.

🤨 Stalemate?

CK is not Oblivion and lost because he's not Oblivion, just one aspect of the infinity that is Oblivion. Marvel is making it clear to you. And CK didn't need help. The majority of those were mindless drones absorbed by the CK. One a few like Glory, Abomination, and Zom were there voluntarily. Every pantheon absorbed were drones, including Ares and Zeus.

Orly? JLA/Avengers is canon for marvel too. From Monica rambeau's bio in the OHOTMU

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From Grandmaster's bio in OHOTMU

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What've you got that proves its non-canon?

It's a crossover and regarded as such. Same thing with Handbooks. Aren't you desperate. Some hand books and we should take it as canon? The Tribunal already declared the IG's ineffective together so how does it apparently work in Avenger's/JLA if it's canon to the MU?

He would be when he would get his ass beat by AM.

Not really. An aspect of Oblivion did exactly what AM did and was only stop through trickery. CK thought he'd won and settled for it. AM ain't shit to Oblivion really.

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Oh yeah, now that oblivion told us that he is infinite and what one aspect of him did with outside amp, he literally has infinite power. LMAO. He shows us his infinite power very well here by getting his ass beat by Iceman.

Marvel fanboys in general are silly when they can't differentiate between boasting and facts. Well, death fled from one aspect of Oblivion, I don't think she can do anything of importance here except banning souls from entering her realm.

Go cheerleaders. Have you brought your pom-poms, girls?

All I see is a desperate attempt to argue otherwise. Iceman is your argument? Not PIS? Lol. Hell, I could even call out the Iceman incident as an early appearance and that Oblivion has been established and retconned to be far more powerful. It's one minor low showing for Oblivion. Because at this point, CK accomplished nearly the same thing as AM and he wasn't even Oblivion, just an aspect.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah anytime someone beats an abstract its just an M-body. I've heard that excuse before and just laughed at that. You have any proof that it was just a manifestation? Anyway strange is hardly an abstract. I've seen that already and wasn't impressed. Beating some no named elder gods is hardly worth mentioning for someone like Daeth. The only name we got was shuma-gorath and the guy has been beaten senseless by strange at less than full power.

So you want me to know about the future comics when I post something? Cool. You know what, it makes oblivion even more pathetic when one aspect of him has to draw power from almost every god in 616 to absorb the multiverse. You are talking like being an aspect of some abstract means he is just a minuscule part of him. Nope, infinity and eternity are aspects of each other too.

http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/c/cc/EternityInfinity.jpg

This just makes oblivion look even worse when one aspect of him gets beaten and imprisoned by Japanese gods and later beaten by ares.

By drawing the power from nearly every god in 616 reality and then got stalemated by a skyfather.

Yeah, he absorbed nearly infinite universes on his own power. CK did it with help and even then he was stalemated by a skyfather. Speculation isn't a valid and now when its established that CK is just another form of oblivion, it makes him look even worse.

Orly? JLA/Avengers is canon for marvel too. From Monica rambeau's bio in the OHOTMU

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/photonhandbook3.jpg

From Grandmaster's bio in OHOTMU

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/grandmasterbio.jpg

What've you got that proves its non-canon?

He would be when he would get his ass beat by AM.

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Oh yeah, now that oblivion told us that he is infinite and what one aspect of him did with outside amp, he literally has infinite power. LMAO. He shows us his infinite power very well here by getting his ass beat by Iceman.

Marvel fanboys in general are silly when they can't differentiate between boasting and facts. Well, death fled from one aspect of Oblivion, I don't think she can do anything of importance here except banning souls from entering her realm.

Go cheerleaders. Have you brought your pom-poms, girls?

Wow I find Irony in your post.You keep using the Iceman incedent to prove Oblivion would lose to COIE Anti-Monitor but refuse to accept the current issue about Oblivion were it was shown that Chaos King is just an aspect of Oblivion.You use low showing against Marvel Characters when it suits your argument.You did it in this thread by the way.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=563511&pagenumber=3

You tried to prove that Odin can no longer stop time in order to prove your case that the team would beat Odin in that thread.That's the time you accepted the current issue about Odin.Hence the irony that you can't accept that current Oblivion just made COIE Anti-Monitor look like a peep squeek since the aspect did what COIE AM did.And now you try to low ball CK?First, the Japanese Gods imprisoned a weakened CK.Second, CK didn't just took on Super God Herc whom you keep calling a mere skyfather.I'll post the scan from Chaos War😘-men about a prophecy against Chaos King.

The One Above All gets involved in stopping the Chaos King.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/TOAAinvolvedinstoppingCK.jpg?t=1303206697

The Ancient Entities of Creation is awaken to fight the Chaos King.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/AncientEntitiesofCreation.jpg?t=1303261666

John praying.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/JohnPraystoTOAA.jpg?t=1303261992

You can either say CK was weakened when he battled SG Herc, or SG Herc was ampped, or both.Oh BTW, Iceman was knocked out by CK in CW#1.He was one of the heroes summoned by Herc.And CK used Nightmare's powers to KO the heroes.By the way, Anti-Monitor ended up as a corpse while CK was only BFR'ed.Oblivion>>>CK>>>Death>>>COIE Anti-Monitor.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
It was Death's manifestation. Death is abstract/concept, not a physical being with actual form geez. It's been started numerous times and in the same manner Oblivion states it. What you see isn't truly them.

So, we're back to square one for her feats. Anytime she gets beat is her manifestation and otherwise its really her. Wow, that's convenient and that never stopped any of the marvel wankers to accept the darkseid retcon of final crisis.

So because they have no names your gonna act like they aren't powerful?

It's one minor low showing for Oblivion. Because at this point, CK accomplished nearly the same thing as AM and he wasn't even Oblivion, just an aspect.

Its one of his few showings altogether. CK did it with a huge outside amp and it can't be directly applied to oblivion anyway.

Originally posted by Igniz
Wow I find Irony in your post.You keep using the Iceman incedent to prove Oblivion would lose to COIE Anti-Monitor but refuse to accept the current issue about Oblivion were it was shown that Chaos King is just an aspect of Oblivion.You use low showing against Marvel Characters when it suits your argument.You did it in this thread by the way.

Originally posted by -K-M-
[B][center][b]Great Beasts
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Battles
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Chaos King & Slave God Army
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Chaos King: Alpha Flight #1:
Here the Great Beasts do something no other pantheon does in the entire Choas War series. They take on the Chaos King and his army...and nearly defeat him. They even did that when they wern't even at full power yet as it takes them 20 minutes on Earth to regain their full power. If they wern't betrayed by Snowbird they very may have defeated the Chaos King. We will never know though.

1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight005.jpg
2. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight006.jpg
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4. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight008.jpg
5. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight009.jpg
6. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight010.jpg
7. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight011.jpg
8. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight012.jpg
9. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight013.jpg
10. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight014.jpg
11. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight015-16.jpg
12. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight017-18.jpg
13. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight019.jpg
14. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight020.jpg
15. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight021.jpg
16. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight022.jpg
17. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/ChaosWar-AlphaFlight023.jpg [/B]

You can either say CK was weakened when he battled SG Herc, or SG Herc was ampped, or both.

Oh BTW, Iceman was knocked out by CK in CW#1.He was one of the heroes summoned by Herc.And CK used Nightmare's powers to KO the heroes.[quote] BTW, you totally missed the little joke.[quote]By the way, Anti-Monitor ended up as a corpse while CK was only BFR'ed.Oblivion>>>CK>>>Death>>>COIE Anti-Monitor. [/B]

You guys are just hilarious btw. I don't blame you though, marvel has that affect on people especially their garbage characters which are in majority in comparison to their good characters. Enjoy phoenix five after Thor corps aka Crap itself. Oh and bring your pom-poms next time.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Go cheerleaders. Have you brought your pom-poms, girls?