The Phoenix Force vs Many Angled Ones

The Phoenix Force has possessed Jean and goes to the Cancerverse to destroy the Many Angled Ones. This is the force going all out using the full scope of its power.

Can the Many Angled Ones stop the creator of all life in the Marvel universe from destroying their Cancerverse or do they get crippled and defeated just like when Death surprised them during the Necropsy ritual?

My money is on the Phoenix Force what with Dark Phoenix and White Phoenix of the Crown being so powerful, but the Many Angled Ones are no slouches either. What do you all think?

The many angled ones

The Phoenix returns to the MU as the Phoenix Engine...

PF. Until the MAO's are more than "scary stories".

Many Angled Ones wreck.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Many Angled Ones wreck.

Even you always say that a weapon, powered by the MAO's, couldn't even kill Thanos.

Originally posted by Horrificus
How do you know, Q?
What have you seen?

Even you always say that a weapon, powered by the MAO's, couldn't even kill Thanos.

Thanos was immune to death. Thanos also outsmarted them all. It's par for the course.

lol

Thor hurt the Phoenix recently.

The Many Angled Ones should take this. Especially considering Galactus and the Celestials were battling and struggling against mere pawns/footsoldiers of the invading force.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have seen the Galactus Engine who wasn't the biggest and baddest thing coming through from the Cancerverse.

Thanos was immune to death. Thanos also outsmarted them all. It's par for the course.

If they were unable to override 616 Death's actions, why should we think their power is so overwhelming?

I still cling to the theory that Cancerverse inhabitants were not as powerful as 616.

Originally posted by Horrificus
But, if the MAO"s were being described as larger, potentially more powerful than the abstracts of Cancerverse and 616, they should be able to trump Death and any machinations she might have had going on with Thanos.

If they were unable to override 616 Death's actions, why should we think their power is so overwhelming?

I still cling to the theory that Cancerverse inhabitants were not as powerful as 616.

Thanos' mind is what brought down the Cancerverse.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You can't cling to that theory since the Galactus Engine was greater than a slew of Celestials and Galactus.

Thanos' mind is what brought down the Cancerverse.

I happen to know, for a fact, that forum members are capable of clinging to all types of unpopular, illogical or incorrect theories.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Oh, I beg to differ Mr. Q.

I happen to know, for a fact, that forum members are capable of clinging to all types of unpopular, illogical or incorrect theories.

Interesting, surprised it hasn't been done before.

But it's one of those strange ones. On one hand the MAO were supposed to be even more powerful than what we saw. Yet they were taken down by 616 Death through her pawn Thanos. If they can't overcome the power of Death from another universe, where does that place them exactly?

Dark Phoenix level manifestations wouldn't do it, but the more powerful manifestations you would think could. Unless it was specifically Death's power that allowed her to win because it was a sort of opposite. Maybe life force vs life force doesn't work. Or maybe each would prove more powerful than the other fighting in their home universe.

Tough one, but I'll go with the more powerful Phoenix manifestations.

it was just plot device that death beat them, it wasnt directly either. she needed thanos.

The way I saw it was Life had so consumed this particular Marvel Universe in every crevasse that once Death was reintroduced.

Well everything shat itself. Win.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
it was just plot device that death beat them, it wasnt directly either. she needed thanos.

Originally posted by the ninjak
The way I saw it was Life had so consumed this particular Marvel Universe in every crevasse that once Death was reintroduced.

Well everything shat itself. Win.

There were two plot devices : the Exorcism rite that banished Death and whatever Thanos did to reintroduce Death back into the Cancerverse. Once she came back, it was game over.

Concerning this thread, I honestly think it's a tie or something. Isn't the PF some sort of Life abstract itself? Hell maybe it'd like becoming a "Phoenix Engine"? 😄

Originally posted by zopzop
It was more than that, Death's AoE of Doom reached outside the Cancerverse and spread into 616 reality annihilating the Cancerverse forces in it.

There were two plot devices : the Exorcism rite that banished Death and whatever Thanos did to reintroduce Death back into the Cancerverse. Once she came back, it was game over.

Concerning this thread, I honestly think it's a tie or something. Isn't the PF some sort of Life abstract itself? Hell maybe it'd like becoming a "Phoenix Engine"? 😄

Who do you think wins?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Who do you think wins?

Originally posted by zopzop
IMHO, the Many Angled Ones. The PF has done nothing with itself so far. Like I said before, at BEST, it seems to be a Trans Tier character (which is sad but that's Marvel for you).

What did the MAO do? And Phoenix has had some good showings in Excalibur.