Originally posted by Mumrik
Lol Thor can't solo the silver Surfer. What you on? Without his hammer Thor is nothing. And ss could easily take control of it.
Except all the times Thor has beaten him or looked superior to Surfer, amirite? Surfer isn't controlling Mjolnir at all, let alone "easily", either.
Originally posted by Mumrik
Lol Thor can't solo the silver Surfer. What you on? Without his hammer Thor is nothing. And ss could easily take control of it.
Yeah, he could do it very easily indeed:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/mightythor10thegroupmeg.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/mightythor10thegroupmeg.jpg
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In fact, it also looks like Thor's hammer might travel faster than the SS.
Originally posted by Dream Stuff
You got that from pages showing the hammer taking off, Surfer having time to say bye to Loki before going after it and still managing to follow closely behind?
Surfer also tried to lift it, and he couldn't. I was refuting the claim that the SS could easily take control of the hammer, which is clearly not the case.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Surfer also tried to lift it, and he couldn't. I was refuting the claim that the SS could easily take control of the hammer, which is clearly not the case.
Well, we know he can't physically lift the hammer even with extreme strength amping, which shouldn't be a surprise as even the Hulk has also consistently failed to do so.
There are other means of taking control of the hammer though, even though non-continuity, What If #41 (What if the Avengers had fought Galactus?) showed a feasible method of doing so.
Originally posted by TheRavager
Well, we know he can't physically lift the hammer even with extreme strength amping, which shouldn't be a surprise as even the Hulk has also consistently failed to do so.There are other means of taking control of the hammer though, even though non-continuity, What If #41 (What if the Avengers had fought Galactus?) showed a feasible method of doing so.
Key words: "What If" and "not continuity"
Pillar refuted the claim that Surfer could easily control the hammer. The comment "So fast" also implies that their speeds are at least similar. Do you refute either of those statements?
Originally posted by Digi
Key words: "What If" and "not continuity"
Which is why I stated them to begin with.
Pillar refuted the claim that Surfer could easily control the hammer. The comment "So fast" also implies that their speeds are at least similar. Do you refute either of those statements?
Pillar refuted the claim that Surfer could control the hammer with raw physical strength. Controlling the hammer will never be easy for Surfer, but SHOULD be possible via means other than raw strength.
"So fast" implies that the Surfer was mightily impressed with the hammer's speed, but the simple fact of the matter is that the Surfer closed in on the hammer despite the hammer having a sizable head start.
Honestly, Surfer, at best, couple hope to keep the hammer encased in a force field (we've seen what happens next) or attempt to displace it in another dimension or something (we've seen Mjolnir cleave through dimensions to get back to Thor). When Thor exerts his will and commands Mjolnir to come back to him, Surfer of all people isn't going to stop him.
In any case, dumb thread is dumb as Thor solos Surfer anyway and anything more than that turns this into a hilarious spite thread.
Lmao funny, Thor can't solo silver surfer in his strongest form. Neither can the hulk. By no means is it going to be easy to defeat Thor but....Hulk has beated Thor. What would stop silver surfer from doing the same if he was at the peak of his power and actually willing to use his full power output.
Silver surfer is the kind of philosphing good hero that never use his full power. But if he would I'm sure Thor wouldn't be able to solo him. Also half of Thor's powers are in his hammer. Without his hammer he is simply a strong guy. We are talking Surfer fully fed at the peak of his power and with no morals.
Thor's wins over Silver Surfer in earlier comic books are also quite PIS. Looking at surfer's powers alone I find it hard to imagine any hero be able to solo him...but of course Thor has always been a far more popular hero than the silver surfer so of course argue from their earlier fights.
But I'm quite sure you are wrong...surfer stomps thor. Then the question is if he could after that take out the avengers.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Except all the times Thor has beaten him or looked superior to Surfer, amirite? Surfer isn't controlling Mjolnir at all, let alone "easily", either.
That's because Thor is a warrior, while Surfer is a pacifist. If they were both going at each other with full intent to kill, I would bet on Surfer every time.
Still I doubt he can take a team consisting of Thor, Tony, Hulk, and others (including possibly Sentry) at once
Originally posted by Mumrik
Lmao funny, Thor can't solo silver surfer in his strongest form. Neither can the hulk. By no means is it going to be easy to defeat Thor but....Hulk has beated Thor. What would stop silver surfer from doing the same if he was at the peak of his power and actually willing to use his full power output.Silver surfer is the kind of philosphing good hero that never use his full power. But if he would I'm sure Thor wouldn't be able to solo him. Also half of Thor's powers are in his hammer. Without his hammer he is simply a strong guy. We are talking Surfer fully fed at the peak of his power and with no morals.
Thor's wins over Silver Surfer in earlier comic books are also quite PIS. Looking at surfer's powers alone I find it hard to imagine any hero be able to solo him...but of course Thor has always been a far more popular hero than the silver surfer so of course argue from their earlier fights.
But I'm quite sure you are wrong...surfer stomps thor. Then the question is if he could after that take out the avengers.
K.
Here's a question for you to consider: what if, and bear with me, Thor was fighting to his maximum potential and not holding back (which he clearly does a majority of the time) too? Honestly can't tell if you're trolling here or if you legitimately think Surfer stands a snowball's chance in hell beating the Avengers when it's extremely debatable he'd beat Thor by himself (which he hasn't).
Mjolnir envy, eh? I don't see why people get so butthurt about Thor and start shouting "well, without his hammer he wouldn't be as formidable!!111". Okay? Surfer's not going to be able to disarm Thor long enough to beat him, let alone the rest of the team. Fact of the matter is that Thor's consistently looked superior to Norrin and it's not some kind of conspiracy due to Thor being "more popular", either. Even Norrin, for all his vaunted Power Cosmic, knows fully well the power of Mjolnir and Asgardian magic.
Not sure what's PIS about Thor beating a Surfer amped by Loki outside of you simply not liking that it happened.
Anyway, let's take a look at the people Surfer would have to beat:
Originally posted by Endless Mike
That's because Thor is a warrior, while Surfer is a pacifist. If they were both going at each other with full intent to kill, I would bet on Surfer every time.Still I doubt he can take a team consisting of Thor, Tony, Hulk, and others (including possibly Sentry) at once
Surfer not wanting to fight or relishing combat doesn't make him less effective in a fight, especially when he can just incapacitate foes without much trouble. Surfer's pacifist nature is used like a crutch for why he doesn't beat Thor or look more awesome; it has no bearing on his power level which is still top tier.
Can Surfer possibly beat Thor? Sure. But evidence points to Thor being his better. Can Surfer beat Thor + the rest of the Avengers? Lmao, no, absolutely not. There's nothing to debate on that front.
