Marvel Elite Herald Team vs DC Elite Herald Team

Started by PillarofOsiris4 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
He's definitely in their league.

Coming from you, it makes me even more sure I'm correct.

I had ended between Galdiator/Quasar/Black Bolt/Stardust for that spot. Who would you guys have picked between them? The more I think about the more I think I should have put Quasar or Stardust

Originally posted by red sabre
yeah gladiator totally dominated masterson thor as you can see right here

What's funny is, Carver keeps clinging to the fact that that was a "plot device win", when normal Thor has used lightning that is FAR...FAR more powerful than living lightning, and is FASTER. Thor can amp his lightning's speed and power to unknown levels. So normal Thor, who would have been a better fighter also, could have absolutely WRECKED that Gladiator so much worse.

Originally posted by Newjak
I had ended between Galdiator/Quasar/Black Bolt/Stardust for that spot. Who would you guys have picked between them? The more I think about the more I think I should have put Quasar or Stardust

I'll be in the minority here, but the Marvel team also has another "weak link", in Beta Ray Bill. I've always thought of him as a poor man's Thor, with lower durability, and no trans options like the godblast. I'd have replaced Glads and BRB with Black Bolt and a non-Void Sentry, and you'd have a good fight on your hands.

So I guess I have to post fts of Wolverine giving Thor fits.

How about Superman losing to a street leveler, Shadow Dragon but Lady Shiva stomping the same person in armed combat.

Surfer and some bricks.

You all are TERRIBLE at this, terrible.

I'll be back with fts soon, at work.

Hm...who's had a harder time with Wolverine? Thor or Hulk? Obviously you also fail to understand the term PIS as well. But we all knew that. Nothing anyone here has said has been lowballing Gladiator, except maybe Cannonball. It's not lowballing when it's the characters normal power levels.

Originally posted by Newjak
I had ended between Galdiator/Quasar/Black Bolt/Stardust for that spot. Who would you guys have picked between them? The more I think about the more I think I should have put Quasar or Stardust

Hm I think Glads is still the most powerful of those, Quasar is a good pick considering how his power would complement the team. Black Bolt is not quite elite herald, despite his scream. Sersi would have been an excellent choise.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Hm I think Glads is still the most powerful of those, Quasar is a good pick considering how his power would complement the team. Black Bolt is not quite elite herald. Sersi would have been an excellent choise.

Yeah, actually she'd be better than Sentry actually, IMO. Good call.

But I think Black Bolt has clearly been portrayed consistently as more powerful than Gladiator.

Originally posted by Glorificus
The thing that concerns me about Gladiator is not his strength, but his speed.

Superman, Manhunter, Diana, etc. all are fractions of lightspeed, unless it's their Pre-Crisis versions. But Gladiator has shown that he's capable of reacting to and adjusting his speed to counter something akin to a time stop. The guy can detect a time stop, and actually sped himself up to hundreds of times the speed of light to match the time dilation and actually catch up to Thor, who has super speed of his own.


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Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Yeah, actually she'd be better than Sentry actually, IMO. Good call.

But I think Black Bolt has clearly been portrayed consistently as more powerful than Gladiator.

I would say BB fights smarter and more stratecically, which along with a coolness/hero factor has racked up an impressive record. Glads on the other hand sometimes act plain dumb (standing still while using HV and letting Hulk grab his face for instance), but in raw power I`d say he beats Blackagar. Not by a lot anyway, I`ll agree to disagree.

Originally posted by carver9
So I guess I have to post fts of Wolverine giving Thor fits.

How about Superman losing to a street leveler, Shadow Dragon but Lady Shiva stomping the same person in armed combat.

Surfer and some bricks.

You all are TERRIBLE at this, terrible.

I'll be back with fts soon, at work.


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Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Coming from you, it makes me even more sure I'm correct.
If he wasn't in their league they'd beat him easily and he wouldn't be a threat. Thing isn't in their league. If anyone reads these fights Gladiator definitely has the power to beat them he just ends up on the losing end probably because he's not an original marvel character.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If anyone reads these fights Gladiator definitely has the power to beat them he just ends up on the losing end probably because he's not an original marvel character.

Would that apply to Thanos too? 😉

Anyway it is partly true, Glads is a blindly loyal superman and gets the short stick so heroes/cool baddies can shine. Still he gets his moments, but not often.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Would that apply to Thanos too? 😉

Anyway it is partly true, Glads is a blindly loyal superman and gets the short stick so heroes/cool baddies can shine. Still he gets his moments, but not often.

Thanos only loses when he chooses to subconsciously.. Thanos is also original. Gladiator is a blatant ripoff.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos is also original.

Tell that to Metron and Darkseid.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Tell that to Metron and Darkseid.
If you can't see the differences in the three characters then I don't know what to tell you. Darkseid isn't anything like Thanos nor is Metron.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you can't see the differences in the three characters then I don't know what to tell you. Darkseid isn't anything like Thanos nor is Metron.

Funny, considering the guy who created Thanos (I'm guess you know who that is...hopefully) said himself he ripped off Darkseid and Metron. (he actually used the words "ripped off"😉.