Durability Gauntlet

Started by Sr J-Bieb4 pages

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It's an impressive feat, I don't understand why you have to make it out to be more than it is.
It can't be planet sized because a panel said it was way larger 40 years ago though Rage!

It's laughable to go against this!

Anyway...
Here's what would have been by my estimate thousands of solar systems wide:
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/DotNG8p08.jpg

Notice how big it was on the planets surface.

Now here's how much damage it caused to the surrounding area:
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/DotNG8p10.jpg

Uh...

Seriously, Superman tanking two planets crashing into each other is ****ing beastly as hell. No one's denying that. Making it into a galaxy level fuse is... well...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. When individuals travel to Apokolips/New Gensises via boom tubes they scale up, which is why to them they are relatively similar to Earth in size and the New Gods don't tower over them. That was why Bieb pointed out what he did.

It's an impressive feat, I don't understand why you have to make it out to be more than it is.


I understand perfectly what you and bieb are trying to do here. So IYO when Dr. Fate, power girl and others went to apokolips via boom tube and narration told us about the size of apokolips compared to earth in their SCALED UP form, its wrong and your speculation is right, amirite or amirite? What you're not understanding here is that the relative size of apokolips while people of earth were in their SCALED UP form is already determined in that scan and its just pure conjucture at this point to suggest otherwise via flairs(lol) or anything else.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
It can't be planet sized because a panel said it was way larger 40 years ago though Rage!

It's laughable to go against this!

Anyway...
Here's what would have been by my estimate thousands of solar systems wide:
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/DotNG8p08.jpg

Notice how big it was on the planets surface.

Now here's how much damage it caused to the surrounding area:
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/DotNG8p10.jpg

Uh...

Seriously, Superman tanking two planets crashing into each other is ****ing beastly as hell. No one's denying that. Making it into a galaxy level fuse is... well...


This coming from you of all people is ****ing priceless. I would remember it the next time someone tried to use a scan from sixties or seventies in favor of marvel characters. No matter how much you whine about it, its canon and unless you've anything else GTFO with this flair(lol) shit.

So we are to believe Superman tanked two Galaxy sized planets colliding? LOL gtfo

Originally posted by iceman24567
So we are to believe Superman tanked two Galaxy sized planets colliding? LOL gtfo

I never said that they were galaxy sized planets. I just said that they were far bigger than earth as proved by the scan.

Originally posted by abhilegend
This coming from you of all people is ****ing priceless. I would remember it the next time someone tried to use a scan from sixties or seventies in favor of marvel characters. No matter how much you whine about it, its canon and unless you've anything else GTFO with this flair(lol) shit.
Why is it priceless?

I have no problem with people using old scans. What I have a problem with is using a really ****ing old scan to detail how big something is when nothing supports it in the future... at all (when everything is boom tubed to size), or even the arc in question besides that throwaway line.

I'm not whining at all. I think it's wrong, and laughable. You're the one clinging to it to afterall, and getting very very defensive.

Using scans from the comic in question is shit when 10 miles was seen as sizable damage to the planet. And the blast I showed reached out possible 10 more miles judging from Superman's stance? Meh.

Well, anyway, let's pick out some interesting tidbits from the arc in question.

Darkseid's big plan in that arc was to transport Apokalips into the universe which was only stated to destroy the Earth:
http://i50.tinypic.com/30mtlr4.jpg

Here it says it would occupy the planetary space of the Earth:
http://i47.tinypic.com/dmb712.jpg

And just for kicks, here it says that the war between Apokalips and NG threatened to destroy the galaxy. Which is funny considering how LARGELY HUGE OMG the planets are.
http://i46.tinypic.com/66f7d2.jpg

I really don't get why you're so set against Superman surviving against two galaxy (?) sized objects colliding (I assume you're arguing galaxy sized since that's what caused your latest outburst to come to light anyway). Two planet sized objects doing this is more than most characters get and is very impressive as well.

I'd look for more, but it's bedtime.

You know the full extent of the damage of that blast wasn't shown in the scans you posted. They could have been on the very edge of it.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
You know the full extent of the damage of that blast wasn't shown in the scans you posted. They could have been on the very edge of it.
Why would they be on the edge when the blast originated from them and mushroomed outwards?

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Why is it priceless?

You're a surfer and thanos fan. Figure it out.

I have no problem with people using old scans. What I have a problem with is using a really ****ing old scan to detail how big something is when nothing supports it in the future... at all (when everything is boom tubed to size), or even the arc in question besides that throwaway line.

Yeah, you do.

I'm not whining at all. I think it's wrong, and laughable. You're the one clinging to it to afterall, and getting very very defensive.

You can think whatever you want but when you're using words like "40 years old scans" its laughably like whining.

Using scans from the comic in question is shit when 10 miles was seen as sizable damage to the planet. And the blast I showed reached out possible 10 more miles judging from Superman's stance? Meh.

Again flairs? Just lulz.

Well, anyway, let's pick out some interesting tidbits from the arc in question.

Darkseid's big plan in that arc was to transport Apokalips into the universe which was only stated to destroy the Earth:
http://i50.tinypic.com/30mtlr4.jpg

This is supposed to prove what exactly?

Here it says it would occupy the planetary space of the Earth:
http://i47.tinypic.com/dmb712.jpg
Yeah, a huge object would surely destroy a smaller object, don't you think?

And just for kicks, here it says that the war between Apokalips and NG threatened to destroy the galaxy. Which is funny considering how LARGELY HUGE OMG the planets are.
http://i46.tinypic.com/66f7d2.jpg

This is some h1a8 level stupidity. Keep going bieb, maybe one day you can distinguish between artistic renditions and size comparisons by statements.

I really don't get why you're so set against Superman surviving against two galaxy (?) sized objects colliding (I assume you're arguing galaxy sized since that's what caused your latest outburst to come to light anyway).
I never said it was galaxy sized if you actually tried to read my post instead of "jerking off swiftly".
Two planet sized objects doing this is more than most characters get and is very impressive as well.
Of course its impressive and thus prone to scrutiny because its superman.

I'd look for more, but it's bedtime.

I'd said goodnight but meh.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Galaxy sized planets... not in DOTNG.

Either way, Galactus is the only one capable of killing anyone in this thread. That depends on how high you view Thanos though. Possibly Thanos could kill them too with that blast... but I'm not sure that would fly.

Well let me rephrase that for you

Galaxy size compared to us, but not to Superman via boomtube.

I'm sure Carver knows about the boom tube or do I have to explain every technicality to keep you happy?

Still this is planetary level + especially because of the force required to FUSE them.

I don't think any of the heroes will survive this sm feats (maybe surfer) but based on the feats shown I do think Sm will survive the Gauntlet.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You're a surfer and thanos fan. Figure it out.

Yeah, you do.

You can think whatever you want but when you're using words like "40 years old scans" its laughably like whining.

Again flairs? Just lulz.

This is supposed to prove what exactly?

Yeah, a huge object would surely destroy a smaller object, don't you think?

This is some h1a8 level stupidity. Keep going bieb, maybe one day you can distinguish between artistic renditions and size comparisons by statements.

I never said it was galaxy sized if you actually tried to read my post instead of "jerking off swiftly". Of course its impressive and thus prone to scrutiny because its superman.

I'd said goodnight but meh.

Originally posted by biensalsa
I don't think any of the heroes will survive this sm feats (maybe surfer) but based on the feats shown I do think Sm will survive the Gauntlet.
way to hijack the thread

Originally posted by psycho gundam
way to hijack the thread

Fair enough, To the OP sorry

Scratch my post and I think Superman and maybe Surfer clear the gauntlet

Originally posted by biensalsa
Fair enough, To the OP sorry

Scratch my post and I think Superman and maybe Surfer clear the gauntlet

Superman yes. I doubt the Surfer does. I think Thor probably has better physical durability than the Surfer, but I doubt either of them clear it.

I'll add though, while I think Superman has far better durability than Thor, if Thor wasn't standing there and taking these attacks, he could absorb many of them with the hammer, or use his shields.

Hulk clears.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman was hit by the shockwaves of the 50 super nova...he didn't feel the initial attack.

As if thats some kind of downgrade

http://www.atomicarchive.com/Effects/effects1.shtml

Originally posted by biensalsa
Well let me rephrase that for you

Galaxy size compared to us, but not to Superman via boomtube.

I'm sure Carver knows about the boom tube or do I have to explain every technicality to keep you happy?

Still this is planetary level + especially because of the force required to FUSE them.

I don't think any of the heroes will survive this sm feats (maybe surfer) but based on the feats shown I do think Sm will survive the Gauntlet.

Yes I'm carver, haha.

Way to look two posts down champ.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You're a surfer and thanos fan. Figure it out.

Yeah, you do.

You can think whatever you want but when you're using words like "40 years old scans" its laughably like whining.

Again flairs? Just lulz.

This is supposed to prove what exactly?

Yeah, a huge object would surely destroy a smaller object, don't you think?

This is some h1a8 level stupidity. Keep going bieb, maybe one day you can distinguish between artistic renditions and size comparisons by statements.

I never said it was galaxy sized if you actually tried to read my post instead of "jerking off swiftly". Of course its impressive and thus prone to scrutiny because its superman.

I'd said goodnight but meh.

I just deleted my post I wrote up before this because I remembered Our Worlds at War (also because you said basically nothing). Like I said, I have no problem using old comics, and I elaborated on that, but when the really old statement goes against current comics...

Well, you have stuff like this happening
Apokolips leaving:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/ActionComics782pg21.jpg

The three planets in the same vicinity:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/ManOfSteel117pg09.jpg

Side by side. Earth is the biggest:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/WonderWomanv2173pg01.jpg

Apokolips closer to the reader, smaller than Earth:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/WonderWomanv2173pg02.jpg

Apokolips closer to reader, barely bigger than Earth:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/ActionComics782pg01.jpg

Yes there's some slight art descrepencies here, but certainly not at all enough to state that Apokolips dwarfs ****ing Earth.
And since I already know your excuse will be Boom Tubes. That would only work if Darkseid was vastly smaller than anyone from Earth... he wasn't by the way. Apokolips to Earth in relation is around the same size. Fact.
Unboom tubed, it is quite a bit larger, but that's also quite irrelevant.
What is it going to be this time? lol statements!!!
You don't need statements to figure out that they're supposed to be comparable in stature. Especially when again, you're judging off of a throwaway line from so long ago that even went against things that happened in the God Damned arc.

Even if the statement held as absolute, it's been retconned. Simply put.

Like I said already, it's an amazing feat. I just have problems seeing it as bigger than that, and "Boo hoo Superman doesn't get any respect" couldn't be farther from the truth. Especially when you previously failed to know what you were talking about when you said I liked Thanos... a being so hated on these forums he just got banned.

Should have hit up that cranberry juice for your period IMO.

"I'd say goodnight but I'm really pissed off that you used logic, and won't blindly accept the feat being blown way out of ****ing proportion!"
I find this funny since I wasn't trying to piss you off at all. But what do you do when you're so defensive about Supes?

lool

Originally posted by abhilegend
I understand perfectly what you and bieb are trying to do here. So IYO when Dr. Fate, power girl and others went to apokolips via boom tube and narration told us about the size of apokolips compared to earth in their SCALED UP form, its wrong and your speculation is right, amirite or amirite? What you're not understanding here is that the relative size of apokolips while people of earth were in their SCALED UP form is already determined in that scan and its just pure conjucture at this point to suggest otherwise via flairs(lol) or anything else.

I was going to respond but then I read Bieb's reply.

Anyone who's read DC for the last few decades should know by now that Apokolips and New Genesis have been treated as more or less on par with other planetary bodies, relatively speaking.

Does anyone remember when the JLI traveled to Apokolips without boom tubes? Were they smaller than the New Gods or was that one of the instances when the New Gods and their planet was similar in size to Humans/Earth?

Superman survives