Father Beats Molester to Death

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Father Beats Molester to Death

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/12/texas-district-attorney-to-present-beating-death-case-to-grand-jury-after-probe/

A Texas prosecutor said the case of a rancher who beat to death a man he caught allegedly molesting his daughter will go to a grand jury to decide whether the killing was justified, or an act of excessive force.

The father, whose name has not been released by authorities, claims he caught the man trying to molest his 4-year-old daughter on his ranch Saturday. Although Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon said the girl’s father is unlikely to be arrested, District Attorney Heather McMinn told FoxNews.com the case remains under investigation and that the Texas Rangers have joined the probe.

“Once completed, [results of the investigation] will be forwarded to the district attorney’s office and it will be taken to a grand jury,” McMinn told FoxNews.com. “They’re still investigating what happened at this point.”

The grand jury will ultimately decide what charges -- if any -- the girl’s father will face, McMinn said.

Relatives of the 47-year-old dead man -- who is from Gonzales and does not appear to have a criminal record -- had not been located as of Tuesday, McMinn said. His name will not be released until those relatives are found, she said.

“My understanding is that they are looking for family members in Mexico,” McMinn said.

Harmon, who could not be reached for comment Tuesday, said earlier that no evidence has led investigators to doubt the father’s account, he said.

“There doesn’t appear to be any reason other than what he told us,” Harmon said.

The victim was an “acquaintance” of the father who visited the ranch to help care for some horses, according to Harmon, adding he did not know how long the men may have known each other prior to the alleged incident.

The girl’s father notified police late Saturday afternoon that he attacked a man he caught attempting to sexually assault his daughter near a barn where horses were kept, Harmon said.
“In the course of trying to get her away from him, and protect her, he struck the subject several times in the head and the subject died,” Harmon said.

The girl was taken to a hospital to be examined and was later released, Harmon said. The victim's body was taken to the Travis County medical examiner's office for an autopsy. Authorities are still awaiting those results, McMinn said.
James Harrington, director of the Texas Civil Rights Project, an Austin-based nonprofit group, questioned the father’s decision to “summarily execute” the alleged molester without due process.

“Assuming it’s true that this guy was molesting the daughter, and we don’t know what exactly happened at this point, he would then have the right to defend [her], and hit him enough to have him stop,” Harrington told FoxNews.com. “But you cannot summarily execute him, even though I can understand the anger he would have.”

Without specific knowledge of the case, Harrington said he was “surprised” that the girl’s father had not been already charged.
Harrington continued: “The question is: When does it move beyond self-defense?”

Meanwhile, several residents of the small town of roughly 2,000 about 130 miles west of Houston said they supported the father’s actions.

“He got what he deserved, big time,” Shiner native Sonny Jaehne told the Victoria Advocate newspaper.

Along with Jaehne, Mark Harabis was among a handful of people at a local convenience store on Sunday who discussed the killing.

“I agree with him totally,” Harabis told the newspaper. “I would probably do worse. The family will have to deal with that the rest of their lives, no matter what happens to the father. Even if they let him go, he and his child will have to deal with that the rest of their lives.”

The owner of Howard’s convenience store said the killing was a hot topic throughout the weekend.

“Everybody wants to know who it is,” owner Howard Gloor told the newspaper. “Everybody’s very curious about it. A lot of people have said that he got what he had coming to him. That’s been the consensus. They’ve been supportive of doing what needed to be done to take care of the problem.”

Says that the father punched the dude in the head a few times while pulling him away from his daughter. According to the quote, the father's story is adding up (meaning, the "few punches to the head" thing is matching up with the body).

1. Should the father serve any time for what he did (do we even know enough information)?
2. Is the father morally wrong for hitting the man?
3. What would you do if you walked in a person molesting your kid?

I believe my reaction would have been the same. I do not think I would savagely beat the guy, but I would probably punch him several times.

After seeing this case will potentially get this dude some prison/jail time, I think I would avoid head shots and, instead, break some fingers and arms. Vigilantism! RAWR!

Re: Father Beats Molester to Death

Originally posted by dadudemon
...Says that the father punched the dude in the head a few times while pulling him away from his daughter. According to the quote, the father's story is adding up (meaning, the "few punches to the head" thing is matching up with the body).

1. Should the father serve any time for what he did (do we even know enough information)?
2. Is the father morally wrong for hitting the man?
3. What would you do if you walked in a person molesting your kid?

I believe my reaction would have been the same. I do not think I would savagely beat the guy, but I would probably punch him several times.

After seeing this case will potentially get this dude some prison/jail time, I think I would avoid head shots and, instead, break some fingers and arms. Vigilantism! RAWR!

1. No. He was protecting his daughter.
2. No. The molester was the one doing wrong.
3. I might just kill the guy. That might sound strange from me, but I would simply be fulfilling the karma of the molester.

I would not try to kill him, but...

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
2. No. The molester was the one doing wrong.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
beating anyone is wrong.

so like, it is common then for things to just not go to trial in these types of cases?

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

So, you would just walk out of the room? I have a feeling that you would not do that if it was your daughter.

Re: Father Beats Molester to Death

Originally posted by dadudemon

1. Should the father serve any time for what he did (do we even know enough information)?
2. Is the father morally wrong for hitting the man?
3. What would you do if you walked in a person molesting your kid?

1) Need more Vespene gas

2) No, if the other man was indeed molesting his child.

3) Probably flip-pout and do something I'd later regret

1) No! This deviant was caught in the act...this was not premeditated...any loving rational parent would react suddenly and violently as did this man

2) See above answer

3) This is a dreaded fear I have...my daughter is 10, and it sickens and angers me to even think of this. I would attempt to stomp his head to a fine paste and pray my daughter is able to fully recover from such a violation....And I Would Not Feel Bad or Guilty For Stomping This Sick-O To Death

1) No. Especially since it doesn't seem like he intended to kill the man. Tho if he did still no

2) Yes. He probably didn't need to hit the guy at all to stop the act and have him arrested.

3) Hard to say. I may get lost in the anger and murder them right then with my bare hands and wouldn't give it a second thought. Then again my kid is there and wouldn't need to see that

Originally posted by juggerman
... murder them ...

Funny typo. 😉

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, you would just walk out of the room? I have a feeling that you would not do that if it was your daughter.

The question was "what would you do?" it was "was this morally wrong?".

And I'm challenging you be consistent. If beating "anyone" is wrong then beating a child molester is wrong.

Originally posted by inimalist
so like, it is common then for things to just not go to trial in these types of cases?

I believe murder trials always start with a grand jury hearing in the United States.

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The question was "what would you do?" it was "was this morally wrong?".

What?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And I'm challenging you be consistent. If beating "anyone" is wrong then beating a child molester is wrong...

What do you mean by consistent? Do you mean like killing a person is murder, therefore, abortion is murder. Do you mean that kind of consistency?

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I believe murder trials always start with a grand jury hearing in the United States.

ah, ok

I think in Canada we have more of an evidentiary hearing, where after a charge has been laid, a judge decides if there is enough evidence to try the case.

probably why it seemed so strange to me that people just seemed to "walk away" from killing people in the states, thanks!

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What?

What do you mean by consistent? Do you mean like killing a person is murder, therefore, abortion is murder. Do you mean that kind of consistency?

Wow, you're just too stupid to have a conversation with. Got it.

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Wow, you're just too stupid to have a conversation with. Got it.

😆 Sorry that my point blew your head off.

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Originally posted by inimalist

probably why it seemed so strange to me that people just seemed to "walk away" from killing people in the states, thanks!

Not sure this is common, unless a trend in forming.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure this is common, unless a trend in forming.

fair enough, I suppose it might be just a couple of high profile cases

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😆 Sorry that my point blew your head off.

Is that the sexual act where two boys or men rub penises together?

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Originally posted by Robtard
Is that the sexual act where tow boys or men rub penises together?

There is a word for that...

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is a word for that...

Bonding?

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😆 Sorry that my point blew your head off.

😆 Sorry that you're so insecure you have to deal with everything by deflecting the conversation.