Father Beats Molester to Death

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
😆 Sorry that my use of simple English words gave you a stroke.

Come back when your not so pissed.

edited my post while you were responding

And who is angry here? I made a simple statement. You repeatedly made moronic posts in response (which Buddhism has apparently taught you is a way of convincing people that you are "deep"😉 and I pointed this out.

Calm down, buddy. Your sham philosophy falls apart when faced with an actual thinking person. You just have to deal with it.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
edited my post while you were responding

And who is angry here? I made a simple statement. You repeatedly made moronic posts in response (which Buddhism has apparently taught you is a way of convincing people that you are "deep"😉 and I pointed this out.

Calm down, buddy. Your sham philosophy falls apart when faced with an actual thinking person. You just have to deal with it.

😬 Ok, I meant what I said. You were asking about consistency. I brought up a scenario where consistency goes out the door.
Death is natural.

Per the thread starter, this is my daughter being molested. If I found that happening, I would first be in the world of Hell, but I would not stay there. I would move to the world of Anger, and probable kill the man. However, I wouldn't tie the man up and torture him.

I think you have a misconception of Buddhism. Buddhism doesn't make me into a non-human.

BTW Me upset? 😂 I wasn't attacking you, I was making a real point.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison

Per the thread starter, this is my daughter being molested. If I found that happening, I would first be in the world of Hell, but I would not stay there. I would move to the world of Anger, and probable kill the man.

Then you'd likely move to the world of prison-anal-rape, which would likely (would it?) move you back to the world of hell and then the world of anger and ending with the world of regret.

Edit: I forgot the world of shame, which is after the world of hell and before the world of regret.

Originally posted by Robtard
Then you'd likely move to the world of prison-anal-rape.

I don't think so. Killing a person who is raping your child is not murder. It might be manslaughter, but I can't imagine any jury putting me in jail. There maybe places in Texas that might even put up a monument in my honer. 😎

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't think so. Killing a person who is raping your child is not murder. It might be manslaughter, but I can't imagine any jury putting me in jail. There maybe places in Texas that might even put up a monument in my honer. 😎

IIRC, manslaughter means prison time. Excused killing under self-defense or in self-defense of others means there has had to been a threat to you/that person's life.

So yeah, world of prison-anal-rape would likely be on your travel schedule.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Per the thread starter, this is my daughter being molested. If I found that happening, I would first be in the world of Hell, but I would not stay there. I would move to the world of Anger, and probable kill the man. However, I wouldn't tie the man up and torture him.

That wasn't the question.

dadude asked: Is the father morally wrong for hitting the man?
you said: No.

This is inconsistent with your statement in another thread that "beating anyone is wrong". I simply asked you to resolve this contradcition. The question is about what is moral not what would happen.

Is it always wrong to beat people? Is it morally right to beat people who are bad? Is it morally right to beat people if you're angry?

Or is it maybe that you can't even see the issue because you've never bothered to examine your beliefs in any detail? Spewing out a few homilies that you've been trained to repeat when people ask you questions doesn't cut it.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think you have a misconception of Buddhism. Buddhism doesn't make me into a non-human.

But it does make you into a non-thinker, evidently.

Originally posted by Robtard
IIRC, manslaughter means prison time.

So yeah, world of prison-anal-rape would likely be on your travel schedule.

Under the conditions described in the thread, would the consequences of your actions stop you from doing (as you said) "something I'd later regret"?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That wasn't the question.

dadude asked: Is the father morally wrong for hitting the man?
you said: No.

This is inconsistent with your statement in another thread that "beating anyone is wrong". I simply asked you to resolve this contradcition. The question is about what is moral not what would happen.

Is it always wrong to beat people? Is it morally right to beat people who are bad? Is it morally right to beat people if you're angry?

Or is it maybe that you can't even see the issue because you've never bothered to examine your beliefs in any detail? Spewing out a few homilies that you've been trained to repeat when people ask you questions doesn't cut it.

But it does make you into a non-thinker, evidently.

Is taking a life morally wrong?

Is abortion morally wrong?

Why is there an inconsistency there?

Maybe there isn't an inconsistency.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Under the conditions described in the thread, would the consequences of your actions stop you from doing (as you said) "something I'd later regret"?

I'd likely would kill the guy or do my best too, as my fear/rage would stop be from thinking rationally and factoring in the consequences on the moments notice.

I'd regret it after I calmed down, as my probable incarceration, my daughter seeing her father beat a man to death and seeing her father go to jail would not be worth taking the scum's life.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Is taking a life morally wrong?

Is abortion morally wrong?

Why is there an inconsistency there?

Maybe there isn't an inconsistency.

Spewing out a few homilies that you've been trained to repeat when people ask you questions doesn't cut it.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'd likely would kill the guy or do my best too, as my fear/rage would stop be from thinking rationally and factoring in the consequences on the moments notice.

I'd regret it after I calmed down, as my probable incarceration, my daughter seeing her father beat a man to death and seeing her father go to jail would not be worth taking the scum's life.

I agree. I'm just not going to pretend that I would somehow be able to overcome the power of the world of anger. I could be wrong.

I think killing the guy would have been most peoples reaction with enough uncontrolled anger. To be honest the beating is deserving being guilty of molesting as this will ruin the girls life.

Jail time required.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I agree. I'm just not going to pretend that I would somehow be able to overcome the power of the world of anger. I could be wrong.

What if you focused all your Chi first?

Originally posted by Robtard
What if you focused all your Chi first?

😂 I'm assuming SURPRISE! If somehow that wasn't the case; I don't know.

Originally posted by inimalist
ah, ok

I think in Canada we have more of an evidentiary hearing, where after a charge has been laid, a judge decides if there is enough evidence to try the case.

In the US, it is the DA (district attorney's office) that decides if a grand jury indictment should proceed, not a judge.

Originally posted by inimalist
probably why it seemed so strange to me that people just seemed to "walk away" from killing people in the states, thanks!

During an investigation, you can still get an "order" to not leave the state until an investigation ends.

i hope this isnt a topic on what we, from the internet, would have rationally decided to do while temporarily insane like this fellow.

thats like asking what someone would do if they were on fire. they can easily say "i would remain calm, drop to the ground and roll around", and then in the actual situation they run in circles punching themselves in the head.

...wait...maybe we're supposed to hulk out and rant about what we totally would have done?

Originally posted by focus4chumps
i hope this isnt a topic on what we, from the internet, would have rationally decided to do while temporarily insane like this fellow.

thats like asking what someone would do if they were on fire. they can easily say "i would remain calm, drop to the ground and roll around", and then in the actual situation they run in circles punching themselves in the head.

...wait...maybe we're supposed to hulk out and rant about what we totally would have done?

You are absolutely right. I should have said that I would grab my camera and try to got all the evidence I could, and then call 911. Of course I wouldn't interfere, that could be seen as too aggressive and immoral.

Thanks for the great point.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
i hope this isnt a topic on what we, from the internet, would have rationally decided to do while temporarily insane like this fellow.

thats like asking what someone would do if they were on fire. they can easily say "i would remain calm, drop to the ground and roll around", and then in the actual situation they run in circles punching themselves in the head.

...wait...maybe we're supposed to hulk out and rant about what we totally would have done?

I'd really have to know what was going on to have any chance of determining how I'd react.

There are probably things that count as molestation that would get me the drag the kid away and scream and nothing more. If it was something really explicit I can imagine myself trying to kill the guy.

Originally posted by Major_Lexington
...molesting... will ruin the girls life.

It's possible. This is something not very many people have discussed. There is a molestation victim involved, here. Taking the father away may not be the best thing to do while she recovers.

I still do not know what was right and wrong. It's just too damn gray. Yes, the father should get the opportunity to beat the dude if he catches him in the act....

But he should not beat the dude to death.

But how can you prevent the death since a single punch can result in the death of another?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are absolutely right. I should have said that I would grab my camera and try to got all the evidence I could, and then call 911. Of course I wouldn't interfere, that could be seen as too aggressive and immoral.

Thanks for the great point.

😆