Originally posted by Mindset
No one said to legalize it, so what are you talking about, noob?I'm about to go vigilante all over your face.
...by suggesting that any legal ramifications would be an injustice. how can one argue that an action should not be punished yet remain illegal?
haha yeah all over my face. funny.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
...by suggesting that any legal ramifications would be an injustice. how can one argue that an action should not be punished yet remain illegal?haha yeah all over my face. funny.
I think that what is missed in the questions I presented is "killing another human being."
If you have a conscious (ambiguous "you"😉, you will remember that the rest of your life...in a bad way. I would not want that on my conscience. Sure, he did a scumbag thing but you KILLED a man. It doesn't seem like a great way to end the confrontation.
However: unintentionally killing the person by punching them a couple of times is not nearly as bad as "capturing him and torturing him" as others have suggested.
Originally posted by alltoomany
knowing how the legal system works...who could really blame the father?
Someone said that the molestor could have been out of prison in 18 months with good behavior. If that's true, that is not a very long time in prison for a crime that will most likely scare the child for life. 🙁
However, that's desiring punishment. We should be more civilized and instead desire rehabilitation and integration back into society. I read that rehabing a sex offender is much more difficult than other types of criminal behavior. That sucks.
Originally posted by alltoomany
knowing how the legal system works...who could really blame the father?
again, i believe temporary insanity real, and not some lawyer jargon used to excuse and exonerate the guilty.
he wigged out, jacked up on adrenaline at the sight of his daughter getting raped, and likely had no control of his actions.
this is an entirely different scenario than kidnapping, false imprisonment, torture, and eventual murder, which is what many people seem to support and which also happens to be arguably far more deplorable than rape, regardless of the victim.
Originally posted by Mindset
Your post was in response to me.By extension you suggested that I did.
i asked a rhetorical question to express a point.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
...by suggesting that any legal ramifications would be an injustice. how can one argue that an action should not be punished yet remain illegal?haha yeah all over my face. funny.
thus "one" and not "you".
you seem quite aggressive toward me. did i say something to upset you?
The grand jury decided not to indict the father, so he will not face charges.
I don't know if beating someone to death for attempted molestation counts as justified force.
I mean...I understand I suppose how it could happen, I just don't think that it's "necessary" to protect the child. At all.
Like, I'm not surprised or outraged, I just feel like letting him off without any kind of penalty opens the door to possible abuses of this precedent in court.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't know if beating someone to death for attempted molestation counts as justified force.I mean...I understand I suppose how it could happen, I just don't think that it's "necessary" to protect the child. At all.
Like, I'm not surprised or outraged, I just feel like letting him off without any kind of penalty opens the door to possible abuses of this precedent in court.
well...yes...that ^^
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't know if beating someone to death for attempted molestation counts as justified force.I mean...I understand I suppose how it could happen, I just don't think that it's "necessary" to protect the child. At all.
Like, I'm not surprised or outraged, I just feel like letting him off without any kind of penalty opens the door to possible abuses of this precedent in court.
Well, from the news story, he only punched the dude a few times: it wasn't a rage punch fest. The risk seems to have been hi in killing the guy with just a few punches.
That...or the father has giant fists and is an ex-boxer or something.
“I need an ambulance. This guy was raping my daughter and I beat him up and I don’t know… I don’t know what to do,” he sobs into the phone, so overcome with emotion that he can’t provide directions to his father’s ranch.“I need help. This guy is dying on me… oh my God… I’m going to try to load him up on the truck and take him to the hospital.”
I'd still like to see him charged, then make the self-defense/protecting-his-daughter argument, but failing any clear evidence that calls his emotions during the 9-11 call into question, this seems somewhat open and shut.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, from the news story, he only punched the dude a few times: it wasn't a rage punch fest. The risk seems to have been hi in killing the guy with just a few punches.That...or the father has giant fists and is an ex-boxer or something.
Or the child-molesting-rapist is complete weak-sauce, there's that chance too.