Originally posted by Delta1938Thanos is too powerful, too smart, and too durable to lose to this team.
Thanks for proving you're a hypocrite. Was awesome how you got all sheepish when I pointed it out, and now you're back to defensive because you realized you're wrong.And Team Wins.
Originally posted by biensalsaThat doesn't mean he isn't subconsciously amping himself through the gem despite him being an idiot.
Not really, He just got out of the way from Champion's attacks and champion is an idiot, even Thanos says that Champion does not has a clue of the power gem and Champion thinks is just a lucky charmReally Quan? Thanos is doubting his shields vs Champion, Champion is about to break them but since Champion is an idiot and thinks he cannot break the shield and defeat Thanos with conventional attack he decides to destroy the planet, which in Champion's mind is a more powerful attack to defeat Thanos and get rid of the shields.
Now answer this, if the shields were already breaking with champion conventional punches what do you think the attack that destroyed the planet by chain reaction would have done to Thanos shield? You know there is a lot of heralds who can hit harder than that, right?
So has Superman, what is your point?
This is not ABC logic, Thanos is stronger than Drax but he is not leaps and bounds above Drax and if you think Thanos has taken on teams of top tiers so has Superman and he does it WITH OUT TECH AND SHIELDS
Lol, Superman came back and kept fighting FYI, and Surfer is very bad at h2h Quan, You know this.
Lets see if this is true with logic, shall We?
Fact. We know Thanos carries shields
Thanos takes a Surfer Blast with out even fliching
Thanos takes punches but he DOES flinchWhat does it tells you?
I'll take the shields, because somehow that is the most logical conclusion, don't you think?
I'll chalk that up to his shields, after all He carries sometimes even 3 shields and armor.
Not to his physical stats, He gets bloody with Black holes btw, Unless You think that is a low balling feat.
Do you think getting bloody with a black hole is a low feat for Thanos?, PLEASE Do answer this, because it will give me an idea to see if it's worth it to keep talking about this issue with you.
Champion is using the power gem to amp his attacks to the point of destroying the entire planet. The power gem has no limit to eventually the shields will falter. Thanos knows and counts on this.
Superman's average isn't where Thanos' average is. You want to compare his absolute highest to Thanos' average. Their entire histories count not just your cherry picked showings.
Thor's also stronger than Drax and Thanos has beaten him as well. Thanos' tech is a part of his powerset it's like me saying in a pitch black atmosphere. Superman relies on the sun but Thanos doesn't rely on the atmosphere.
Every instance of Thanos using shields it's either clearly drawn or alluded to. Thanos' power and durability is on another level than Surfer's. Superman's level is not.
You can pretend those are his shields when they aren't drawn or alluded to. Either way Thanos has his shields in a forum fight.
It was an artificial black hole and no I don't. I accept all showings the black hole was very powerful but it's a plot device anyway which has nothing to do with the dc team.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Go in to the profile, and there should be an option for "add person to your ignore list".
I actually had stumbled on that by accident, when trying to report a spammer, thanks though. I still haven't made-up my mind yet. On the one hand it'd make things much less annoying, on the other hand, I'm sure Quan will think he "scared" me and I'm "afraid of his wrath" and that'd be giving a massively undeserved ego boost to someone who thought Doomsday was killed by expunging bacteria.
Originally posted by Delta1938No, he hasn't. Superman can beat top tiers and they can beat him straight up. That's how it has always been. Every top tier has moments of greatness that doesn't change that they are a top tier and portrayed consistently as such.
The fact that Superman's also shown to be above Top-Tier himself and Orion's matched him better than other heroes.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he hasn't. Superman can beat top tiers and they can beat him straight up. That's how it has always been. Every top tier has moments of greatness that doesn't change that they are a top tier and portrayed consistently as such.
So Superman matching or beating teams of Top-Tiers, and matching or beating opponents who matched/beat teams of Top-Tiers don't count as above Top-Tier showings? Glad to know I was right that Superman's examples will be dismissed.
Originally posted by Delta1938Hulk's done so as has Black Adam, etc. That doesn't mean these showings don't count that means their peers are also capable of this while at the same time being unable to best foes like Orion, etc. in combat. That means these guys are peers. Thanos has always been portrayed as greater than. I think all those showings count.
So Superman matching or beating teams of Top-Tiers, and matching or beating opponents who matched/beat teams of Top-Tiers don't count as above Top-Tier showings? Glad to know I was right that Superman's examples will be dismissed.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk's done so as has Black Adam, etc. That doesn't mean these showings don't count that means their peers are also capable of this while at the same time being unable to best foes like Orion, etc. in combat. That means these guys are peers. Thanos has always been portrayed as greater than. I think all those showings count.🙂
Superman's got a whole lot more than anybody else. I know people argue it as he has more showings, but that's just an excuse to dismiss it. And it's canon that Superman not only holds back more than others, but we've seen it straight-up stated he subconsciously regulates his powers, suppressing them.
And where did I say Orion wasn't a peer? I said that Orion has shown to match Superman better than any other hero, including Captain Marvel.
By the way, I could be mistaken, but the Black Adam example you're talking about, wasn't he powered-up more than normal?
