Second mizukage vs Garp the hero

Originally posted by NemeBro
Blublublublublub.

Go whine to someone who cares.

I never said that Genjutsu doesn't work on OP characters (Though IIRC Garp has Mantra (Forget the technical name of the Haki type), which would get around most Genjutsu), only that Haki would negate logia-esque intangibility (But not intangibility of the same kind as Tobi's).

Also, Suigetsu was smacked like a noob by Killer Bee at the start of the fight.

Anyway, Garp throws a small pepple at the Second's head. To say Garp is physically much stronger than anyone in Naruto would be an understatement (A biju may be stronger, but I don't recall any feats to suggest that).

its blah blah blah smart ass and im not whining im stating facts which you obviously don't know about. And no genjutsu wont be stopped by haki that's just dumb if he sees it coming somehow he wont be able to stop it. And what im trying to say about the hydrification technique is that you can hurt them all you want its not gonna injure them that's why Suigetsu would just reform after getting hit. You couldnt even spell pebble right and on top of it all you are delusional enough to think garp is gonna whip out tbb strength anytime soon.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
its blah blah blah smart ass and im not whining im stating [B]facts which you obviously don't know about. And no genjutsu wont be stopped by haki that's just dumb if he sees it coming somehow he wont be able to stop it. And what im trying to say about the hydrification technique is that you can hurt them all you want its not gonna injure them that's why Suigetsu would just reform after getting hit. You couldnt even spell pebble right and on top of it all you are delusional enough to think garp is gonna whip out tbb strength anytime soon. [/B]

No, sorry, I'm afraid AuraAngel already proved that sensory abilities like Karin's can enable one to see through Genjutsu by making use of a sense the Genjutsu can't affect. Like Karin did. You're wrong. I'm smarter than you.

Lol, Suigetsu is a poor-man's Logia. His logia-esque state requires constant concentration and hydration to keep up, and... Are you ****ing daft dude? Haki allows you to physically injure Logias, which reforming can't help. See: Kizaru getting cut by Silvers, for a very early example.

He doesn't need tbb strength to cut the Mizukage in half with a pebble. Or the spare change in his pockets.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
it is said that haki hits the "substantial" body which is what a logia has which means that is a weakness only for df users. how about you prove haki can hurt others who can become an element without it being a df ability?

Scan? I want a decent translation and definition of what substantial body means in the context.

Also your question strikes me as odd, how do we know if genjutsu can affect those who have no chakra? Well, we have an equivalent energy rule in this forum, so that's fixed. I'm not claiming that the haki thing works, I just found the question weird.

Originally posted by NemeBro
No, "blublublublub" means you were whining like a little girl.

No, sorry, I'm afraid AuraAngel already proved that sensory abilities like Karin's can enable one to see through Genjutsu by making use of a sense the Genjutsu can't affect. Like Karin did. You're wrong. I'm smarter than you.

Lol, Suigetsu is a poor-man's Logia. His logia-esque state requires constant concentration and hydration to keep up, and... Are you ****ing daft dude? Haki allows you to physically injure Logias, which reforming can't help. See: Kizaru getting cut by Silvers, for a very early example.

He doesn't need tbb strength to cut the Mizukage in half with a pebble. Or the spare change in his pockets.

oooooo sorry i don't know your ghetto terminology and all and being a sensor doesn't prevent genjutsu that's why kabuto a sensor in sage mode was still put under genjutsu it doesn't matter if you know your in it like naruto if you don't have the power to disrupt it you cant get out and the fact is haki predicts someones movements like the sharingan doesn't mean it can stop genjutsu out right besides if haki=chakra i have never heard of someone disrupting their haki flow at all so i don't know where your even going with this. Besides if garp hit the mizukage since he is now apparently a "logia" he wont kill the mizukage with one hit as that has never been to one his beat logia's and the mizukage can easily fire water bullets at him or blow him away with infinite explosions which he has no way of stopping.
And no a pebble is not killing the mizukage but hey at least you spelled pebble right this time!

Originally posted by Bentley
Scan? I want a decent translation and definition of what substantial body means in the context.

Also your question strikes me as odd, how do we know if genjutsu can affect those who have no chakra? Well, we have an equivalent energy rule in this forum, so that's fixed. I'm not claiming that the haki thing works, I just found the question weird.

well i usually get my info prom one piece wiki buut i also have this
http://www.mangareader.net/103-56928-14/one-piece/chapter-597.html
however if this does not only apply to df users then yeah garp can hit the mizukage though im pretty sure like other logia one hit wont do it and he can use infinite explosion to push garp away. Yeah the haki sensing this is a rough topic and is hard to debate so ill just leave you out of it.

He did spell pebble right.

You on the other hand have not yet mastered the deadly art of capitalization.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Blublublublublub.

Go whine to someone who cares.

I never said that Genjutsu doesn't work on OP characters (Though IIRC Garp has Mantra (Forget the technical name of the Haki type), which would get around most Genjutsu), only that Haki would negate logia-esque intangibility (But not intangibility of the same kind as Tobi's).

Also, Suigetsu was smacked like a noob by Killer Bee at the start of the fight.

Anyway, Garp throws a small pepple at the Second's head. To say Garp is physically much stronger than anyone in Naruto would be an understatement (A biju may be stronger, but I don't recall any feats to suggest that).

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
He did spell pebble right.

You on the other hand have not yet mastered the deadly art of capitalization.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Aura angel look above you that's not how you spell pebble!
you obviously have not mastered the art of double checking!

Was talking about the 2nd time. The time where you pointed out that he did in fact spell it right.

Unlike you, who can't even spell TheAuraAngel correctly. And the name is right there, you dun has an excuse.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
oooooo sorry i don't know your ghetto terminology and all and being a sensor doesn't prevent genjutsu that's why kabuto a sensor in sage mode was still put under genjutsu it doesn't matter if you know your in it like naruto if you don't have the power to disrupt it you cant get out and the fact is haki predicts someones movements like the sharingan doesn't mean it can stop genjutsu out right besides if haki=chakra i have never heard of someone disrupting their haki flow at all so i don't know where your even going with this. Besides if garp hit the mizukage since he is now apparently a "logia" he wont kill the mizukage with one hit as that has never been to one his beat logia's and the mizukage can easily fire water bullets at him or blow him away with infinite explosions which he has no way of stopping.
And no a pebble is not killing the mizukage but hey at least you spelled pebble right this time!

And yes it does. Karin was able to see past a Genjutsu using her sixth chakra sense.

And... Kabuto avoided every Genjutsu except for Izanami, which isn't a normal Genjutsu, by blinding himself and then using his sensory abilities to fight Itachi and Sasuke. 😐 Wow, you just owned yourself so hard. Illusory Genjutsu can be gotten around via sensory powers, Izanami was more of a paralyzation Genjutsu.

The Mizukage isn't a Logia. He's a cheap knock-off of one at best, assuming he is indeed capable of intangibility.

No. Garp is physically strong enough to toss a million ton wrecking ball hundreds of meters. He blows the Second Mizukage in half with a pebble.

Yeah, but didn't Garp store said wrecking ball on his wooden ship?

That must be some strong wood.

The wrecking ball is actually a good deal bigger than the ship.

haermm

Yeah, I just checked.

What teh fvck. 😐

The 2nd does to Garp what he did to the sand clone of Oonoki. He blasts the his chest open with a lightspeed drop of water.

I lightspeed drop of water would probably blow up an island, not pierce a mans chest.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I lightspeed drop of water would probably blow up an island, not pierce a mans chest.

He should be careful with that. He could hit some German dude on the other side.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Was talking about the 2nd time. The time where you pointed out that he did in fact spell it right.

Unlike you, who can't even spell TheAuraAngel correctly. And the name is right there, you dun has an excuse.

Originally posted by NemeBro
"Ghetto terminology"?

And yes it does. Karin was able to see past a Genjutsu using her sixth chakra sense.

And... Kabuto avoided every Genjutsu except for Izanami, which isn't a normal Genjutsu, by blinding himself and then using his sensory abilities to fight Itachi and Sasuke. 😐 Wow, you just owned yourself so hard. Illusory Genjutsu can be gotten around via sensory powers, Izanami was more of a paralyzation Genjutsu.

The Mizukage isn't a Logia. He's a cheap knock-off of one at best, assuming he is indeed capable of intangibility.

No. Garp is physically strong enough to toss a million ton wrecking ball hundreds of meters. He blows the Second Mizukage in half with a pebble.

Originally posted by NemeBro
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No. Garp is physically strong enough to toss a million ton wrecking ball hundreds of meters. He blows the Second Mizukage in half with a pebble.

Considering that the crew member was able to lift the same canon ball abeit barely, I doubt it was a million tons. He'd be stronger than Whitebeard if he were.

But moving past that, what genjutsu does the Mizukage have that will hamper Garps attack. Plus the Jokey Boy clone leaves the Second Mizukage completely defenseless along with draining a crapload of his chakra. Precog/Observation Haki should more than enough to find and blitz the Second Mizukage.

Though the Giant ****ing Clam makes my judgement harder 😛

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Considering that the crew member was able to lift the same canon ball abeit barely, I doubt it was a million tons. He'd be stronger than Whitebeard if he were.

But moving past that, what genjutsu does the Mizukage have that will hamper Garps attack. Plus the Jokey Boy clone leaves the Second Mizukage completely defenseless along with draining a crapload of his chakra. Precog/Observation Haki should more than enough to find and blitz the Second Mizukage.

Though the Giant ****ing Clam makes my judgement harder 😛

the mizukage will still be in water from and he wont get past jokey boy plus i don't remember haki being able to find someone who is hiding.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
the mizukage will still be in water from and he wont get past jokey boy plus i don't remember haki being able to find someone who is hiding.

I'm pretty sure Luffy used it to find the Yeti Bros