Originally posted by zopzop
True a "weaker" Juggernaut laughed off a Godblast, but was also hurt by a flaming chandelier hurled at him by Nightcrawler, had his eye poked out by Shatterstar, had half his power absorbed by Rogue (and Rogue couldn't even affect Loki or Ares), was KTFO by Nimrod (after a casual backhand by Nimrod ripped Juggs helmet off), etc..Kuurth, even dual God Kuurth, isn't in Thanos' league.
Mentioning of PIS is against the rules Zopzop. You cannot use those feats at all.
Also characters fight at their best ability in this forum.
Lastly, do you think in a comic Thanos would be shown to affect Kuurth?
Originally posted by h1a8Why wouldnt he be able to harm Kuurth? as Kuurth never faced anybody as powerful as Thanos.
Mentioning of PIS is against the rules Zopzop. You cannot use those feats at all.
Also characters fight at their best ability in this forum.
Lastly, do you think in a comic Thanos would be shown to affect Kuurth?
Being a Avatar of Death is greater than being a Avatar of Cytorrak and Serpent as Deaths power>>>>>>Cytorrak/Serpent power combined
Originally posted by Nihilist
Why wouldnt he be able to harm Kuurth? as Kuurth never faced anybody as powerful as Thanos.Being a Avatar of Death is greater than being a Avatar of Cytorrak and Serpent as Deaths power>>>>>>Cytorrak/Serpent power combined
Cain has faced the Godblast which is indeed more powerful than Thanos.
Originally posted by ODG
Magneto and Hope are not metas. Educate yourself. A meta dosen't divert a planet-killing bullet and beat a psionic reality warper. A meta doesn't one-shot a barrier that Thor just starts barely penetrating after raining Mjolnir blows for hours on end.Invoking two characters who beat the ever loving sh1t out of Thanos in one instance and 1-shotted him in another instance doesn't elevate Thanos to their level. Don't be so moronic. That's what was used against FP Kuurth. Not just Colossus' fist. Cracking his helmet did nothing. Eventually tearing it off did nothing. FP Kuurth immediately reformed it. Telepathy, heat, teleportation, and arguably blunt (based on Juggernaut's average). Why do you bother arguing when you clearly haven't even read this sh1t? Serpent's power did not make him unstoppable. A 5-year old could understand that since he stopped being unstoppable right after he was depowered by Cytorrak. Depowered Juggernaut was hardly unstoppable. Your utter misconception that FP Kuurth was only an amped depowered Juggernaut would be cured if you just simply read the comic. Cncern yourself with the facts first, not the misinformed argument you're trying to salvage. Go reread the Thor/Juggernaut fight. Take your head out of your a$$. I'm done laying out your mistakes and dealing with your childish polemic. Read the comics or don't.
so what level are they? would you compare them to an elite trans being like thanos? my point was still the fact they are nothing to someone like thanos so dont ignore it.
you are the moronic around here, thanos stood his ground vs odin for a while and took his shots, of course odin was the victor and more powerful however going toe 2 toe with odin at first making him mad and actually going all out to beat thanos is clearly >>>>>>> any durability feat presented by anyone who kuurth took down, as you name agains you prove to be the dumb one.
my point is the fact his helmet as his armor is also empowered by the same force providing him his durability, the fact alone colossus was able to crack something empowered by same force that empower kuurth is already a good indication as to what levels are beginning to overcome the enhancements.
again you prove to be not very smart to say the least, i was reffering to blunt force and energy durability, i know kuurth was very resistant to telepathy and couldnt be bfr'd however genious i am asking you what feats of durability vs blunt force and energy projection did he present to portray him as greater than classic juggernaut as far as this type of durability?
what facts can you provide me that will prove kuurth is a full power juggernaut and serpent combined? juggernaut was depowered when merged with the serpent was it ever stated he got all his powers back? was it mentioned cyttorak restored his full power level? no? then please stop talking out of your ass you are starting to have an anal bleeding already and stick to the facts.
so basically when ever you cant prove a point you start to cry curse call names and use the well know "go read the comics" argument? this is beyond pathetic why wont you go pull your ass out of your head because it seems like your ass is in control and not your head and provide me some facts and proof for a change other than just cursing like a retarded beaten step child.
Originally posted by red sabre
so what level are they? would you compare them to an elite trans being like thanos? my point was still the fact they are nothing to someone like thanos so dont ignore it.you are the moronic around here, thanos stood his ground vs odin for a while and took his shots, of course odin was the victor and more powerful however going toe 2 toe with odin at first making him mad and actually going all out to beat thanos is clearly >>>>>>> any durability feat presented by anyone who kuurth took down, as you name agains you prove to be the dumb one.
my point is the fact his helmet as his armor is also empowered by the same force providing him his durability, the fact alone colossus was able to crack something empowered by same force that empower kuurth is already a good indication as to what levels are beginning to overcome the enhancements.
again you prove to be not very smart to say the least, i was reffering to blunt force and energy durability, i know kuurth was very resistant to telepathy and couldnt be bfr'd however genious i am asking you what feats of durability vs blunt force and energy projection did he present to portray him as greater than classic juggernaut as far as this type of durability?
what facts can you provide me that will prove kuurth is a full power juggernaut and serpent combined? juggernaut was depowered when merged with the serpent was it ever stated he got all his powers back? was it mentioned cyttorak restored his full power level? no? then please stop talking out of your ass you are starting to have an anal bleeding already and stick to the facts.
so basically when ever you cant prove a point you start to cry curse call names and use the well know "go read the comics" argument? this is beyond pathetic why wont you go pull your ass out of your head because it seems like your ass is in control and not your head and provide me some facts and proof for a change other than just cursing like a retarded beaten step child.
The Thanos Odin fight was PIS
That was Thanos highest showing ever
Thanos hasn't shown the power output that compares to a Godblast. In the comic Cyttorak was pleased with Kuurth. It is mentioned serval times that the more destruction Cain causes then he receives full power.
So Kuurth>>>>>>>>>>>>Classic Juggs in durability.
Also Kuurth can beat Thanos by simply hitting him with the hammer in the head. Don't worry, it's unstoppable.
Originally posted by h1a8
The Thanos Odin fight was PIS
That was Thanos highest showing everThanos hasn't shown the power output that compares to a Godblast. In the comic Cyttorak was pleased with Kuurth. It is mentioned serval times that the more destruction Cain causes then he receives full power.
So Kuurth>>>>>>>>>>>>Classic Juggs in durability.Also Kuurth can beat Thanos by simply hitting him with the hammer in the head. Don't worry, it's unstoppable.
Originally posted by red sabreIrrelevant leading question that has nothing to do with the fact that Thanos has no Omega-level cyrokinesis, omega-level electromagnetism, or Hope's all-in-one mutant power that made Thor's repeated blows over hours look like a gentle breeze in comparison.
so what level are they? would you compare them to an elite trans being like thanos? my point was still the fact they are nothing to someone like thanos so dont ignore it.you are the moronic around here, thanos stood his ground vs odin for a while and took his shots, of course odin was the victor and more powerful however going toe 2 toe with odin at first making him mad and actually going all out to beat thanos is clearly >>>>>>> any durability feat presented by anyone who kuurth took down, as you name agains you prove to be the dumb one.
Odin sh1tstomped Thanos and wasn't hurt in the least. And he didn't even come close to going all-out such as amping off Asgard or growing giant-size. Invoking characters like Odin and Galactus who beat the ever-loving crap out of Thanos does not help your argument here. FP Kuurth doesn't need to be either of them since nobody is arguing that FP Kuurth sh1tstomps Thanos or one-shots him.
Originally posted by red sabreKeep ignoring context that Thanos has no Omega-level cyrokinesis capable of reducing the helmet down to absolute zero. Or that damaging the helmet, didn't do sh1t as he immediately reformed the helmet anyway mid-fight twiceover in a matter of panels. Durability =/= unstoppability. Hell, you even saw that with Colossonaut whose durability was being compromised left and right and whose bones were breaking but was still too unstoppable to be defeated or overpowered.
my point is the fact his helmet as his armor is also empowered by the same force providing him his durability, the fact alone colossus was able to crack something empowered by same force that empower kuurth is already a good indication as to what levels are beginning to overcome the enhancements.again you prove to be not very smart to say the least, i was reffering to blunt force and energy durability, i know kuurth was very resistant to telepathy and couldnt be bfr'd however genious i am asking you what feats of durability vs blunt force and energy projection did he present to portray him as greater than classic juggernaut as far as this type of durability?
This from the very god damn same comic we're referring to. Are you purposefully being ignorant of the exact comic issues we're discussing? That FP Kuurth was far more resistant to varying degrees of attacks must mean he is weaker to others? I'm not proving a negative. And your decision to completely ignore a common sense deduction that FP Kuurth was more powerful than classic Juggernaut is not something I care to remedy. That you cannot deduce that is a failure on your part. Get it in your thick skull: classic Juggernaut never no-sold telepathy, never reformed his helmet immediately, never was immune to BFR, never virtually no-sold an entity that far outclassed Thor when going all-out, i.e., Hope.
Originally posted by red sabreI don't care to repeat the explanations I've already laid out for you. I've already completely, and unequivocally, proven that FP Kuurth was not an amped depowered Juggernaut. Depowered Juggernaut was never unstoppable. DP Kuurth with just the Serpent's power was never unstoppable. Ergo, the unstoppability must have been a result of something other than depowered Juggernaut's power and the Serpent's power, i.e., Cytorrak's blessing. That this flies past your head is not evidence of your utter stupidity. You're not stupid. You're just butthurt and you can't take losing an argument even though your argument was based on complete misinformation. You're just arguing to argue.
what facts can you provide me that will prove kuurth is a full power juggernaut and serpent combined? juggernaut was depowered when merged with the serpent was it ever stated he got all his powers back? was it mentioned cyttorak restored his full power level? no? then please stop talking out of your ass you are starting to have an anal bleeding already and stick to the facts.so basically when ever you cant prove a point you start to cry curse call names and use the well know "go read the comics" argument? this is beyond pathetic why wont you go pull your ass out of your head because it seems like your ass is in control and not your head and provide me some facts and proof for a change other than just cursing like a retarded beaten step child.
Why don't you take your steaming red face, your trembling hands as they type, and wipe away your e-tears after being throroughly deconstructed. You're boring. Some trolls have some creativity in their trolling and can actually illustrate a semblance of an issue here by diverting the issue. You haven't. You discuss the same exact topic, repeat your questions over and over again, despite them being answered, spout off the same fallacies after they've been exposed. The only thing you do different from post to post is throw in an ever-increasing layer of insulting tone that comes across as petulant rather than clever. Your e-rage is about as interesting and original as a piece of KFC chicken. Get mad. Nobody cares. Go be b1tchmade somewhere else over comic characters.
Originally posted by h1a8
Juggs forcefield is just writer's interpretation of his durability. Some writer's wrote it in and other's didn't. Perhaps he does have one but it is only extends a millimeter from his skin.
Originally posted by ODG
Irrelevant leading question that has nothing to do with the fact that Thanos has no Omega-level cyrokinesis, omega-level electromagnetism, or Hope's all-in-one mutant power that made Thor's repeated blows over hours look like a gentle breeze in comparison.Odin sh1tstomped Thanos and wasn't hurt in the least. And he didn't even come close to going all-out such as amping off Asgard or growing giant-size. Invoking characters like Odin and Galactus who beat the ever-loving crap out of Thanos does not help your argument here. FP Kuurth doesn't need to be either of them since nobody is arguing that FP Kuurth sh1tstomps Thanos or one-shots him. Keep ignoring context that Thanos has no Omega-level cyrokinesis capable of reducing the helmet down to absolute zero. Or that damaging the helmet, didn't do sh1t as he immediately reformed the helmet anyway mid-fight twiceover in a matter of panels. Durability =/= unstoppability. Hell, you even saw that with Colossonaut whose durability was being compromised left and right and whose bones were breaking but was still too unstoppable to be defeated or overpowered.
This from the very god damn same comic we're referring to. Are you purposefully being ignorant of the exact comic issues we're discussing? That FP Kuurth was far more resistant to varying degrees of attacks must mean he is weaker to others? I'm not proving a negative. And your decision to completely ignore a common sense deduction that FP Kuurth was more powerful than classic Juggernaut is not something I care to remedy. That you cannot deduce that is a failure on your part. Get it in your thick skull: classic Juggernaut never no-sold telepathy, never reformed his helmet immediately, never was immune to BFR, never virtually no-sold an entity that far outclassed Thor when going all-out, i.e., Hope. I don't care to repeat the explanations I've already laid out for you. I've already completely, and unequivocally, proven that FP Kuurth was not an amped depowered Juggernaut. Depowered Juggernaut was never unstoppable. DP Kuurth with just the Serpent's power was never unstoppable. Ergo, the unstoppability must have been a result of something other than depowered Juggernaut's power and the Serpent's power, i.e., Cytorrak's blessing. That this flies past your head is not evidence of your utter stupidity. You're not stupid. You're just butthurt and you can't take losing an argument even though your argument was based on complete misinformation. You're just arguing to argue.
Why don't you take your steaming red face, your trembling hands as they type, and wipe away your e-tears after being throroughly deconstructed. You're boring. Some trolls have some creativity in their trolling and can actually illustrate a semblance of an issue here by diverting the issue. You haven't. You discuss the same exact topic, repeat your questions over and over again, despite them being answered, spout off the same fallacies after they've been exposed. The only thing you do different from post to post is throw in an ever-increasing layer of insulting tone that comes across as petulant rather than clever. Your e-rage is about as interesting and original as a piece of KFC chicken. Get mad. Nobody cares. Go be b1tchmade somewhere else over comic characters.
are you that dence? thanos has energy and physical output on a much higher level than those guys, the guy is a high trans for phuck sakes, he doesnt need freezing powers or higher level telepathy he got his energy manipulation and strength to beat the shit out of him, he put galactus on his ass, owned a group of heralds with surfer and thor being amond them, what in hell makes you believe he cant hurt kuurth? what great durability feats did kuurth even present to even suggest he is on juggernaut level of durability as far as energy and blunt force? and what feats make you believe he can even hurt thanos? odin while not being too mad wasnt hurting thanos, only when odin got mad and use his trident he took thanos down, what feats did kuurth present both on durability and power output to suggest he is going to hang with thanos? nothing aside of your anal bleeding.
you idiot odin at first wasnt able to put any real hurt on thanos, they were testing each others power, at first odin dismissed silver surfer with a single blast, same power level was applied against thanos and it did nothing to him, an energy attack that one shotted surfer couldnt even hurt thanos, then he and odin went even further increasing their attacks and nothing, only at the end when odin is mad and pull out the trident to channel his energy better he was able to take thanos down, that fight alone speaks very loudly of thanos durability, what did kuurth ever do to even suggest he can tickle thanos you moron?
you want to bring galactus? the guy ate 2 planets and he basically exerted all his energy just to breach thanos shields, it was a powered up galactus and he actually used all his energy to breac the shields, do i need to repeat this again?? how dence are you? and thanos putting galactus on his butt with an energy attack Lol, AGAIN WHAT DID KUURTH EVER PRESENTED TO MATCH BOTH THIS KIND OF POWER OUTPUT AND THIS KIND OF DURABILITY?
wow you are seriously a one dumb, you honestly think that an omega level mutant is >> thanos? his punch alone is >> an omega level attack are you being for real or just a troll? i just cant keep myself from laughing at your dencity here and your strawman trying to present the case as if an omega level attack is >> anything thanos can dish out this is just beyond retarded at this point.
why are you trying to compare kuurth with classic juggernaut again? and colossusnaut to classic juggernaut? kuurth is depowered juggs with serpent powers, colossusnaut is nothing to classic juggernaut as we saw he gets hurt physically so get out of this subject and keep discussing kuurth and not classic juggs.
kuurth did not present any feats at all to suggest he can take a beating from a high trans such as thanos, or even further he didnt present anything at all to even start suggesting he can tickle thanos.
yes you are going to prove this, if you brought the statement of kuurth being durable to some level than you have to prove he is, if you go over this thread claiming he is more durable than juggernaut himself than hell yeah you are going to prove this shit to me, you are not going to pull things out of your ass and then when asked to prove them just cry "i am not proving a negative" your are going to prove your crap.
did you even read my posts? i said i have no problem with kuurth being more resistant to telepathy than classic juggs or that he can fly and shit, my point was talking on his energy and blunt force trauma durability as i pointed out thanos will just destroy him, why is it common sense he is more durable than classic juggernaut as far as physical harm and energy harm? what feats did he present to suggest that? as i said before it wasnt stated he got his powers back when merging with the serpent so the facts tell us its a depowered juggernaut with serpent powers and lets face it the serpent power up suck balls as far as durability see nuul and the others.
seriously if you saw me in real life you would realise i am not your ordinary internet nerd and you would actually understand you are inferior to me in any way but of course the internets allow to write shit so what ever tough guy, did i hurt you? did i make you go boohoo to the point you broke down and started to type shit load of insults? tell you what idiot why wont you start by actually adressing the things i say and prove you are right instead of just saying you are and then fill the other part of your post with insults? why wont you start with proving kuurth is at least = juggernaut? why wont you keep going with proving he can take punishement from thanos, why wont you keep up by showing any evidence thast he can actually hurt thanos? you didnt do a shit because you are a lazy clown that likes to talk shit instead of actually showing any kind of knowledge or respect, i actually pitty you if its so easy to make you mad and go ape shit over the fact you are too dumb to prove something now either bring me the things i asked you 2 or get lost.