Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
And Galactus was hungry.Also, I find it funny how we assume Zeus was depowered from not having the bolt, yet we're supposed to assume he's only slightly amped from having thousands of Gods inside him.
Stop being Logically Bran... The Hulk fanboys need Zeus to be OMGZORZS Awesome to explain him WTFpwning Hulk.. Get it? Geez...
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Tell me , how strong is Zeus in comparison to an average skyfather ?
These are your options :
1.Stronger
2.Equal
3.Weaker
Irrelevant. Galactus clearly expected Zeus to go down to a sufficiently powerful blast. Odin KO'd himself striking Galactus, who did not retaliate. Do you think Galactus couldn't KO Zeus by actually attacking him? The whole point of the exchange was to point out that something extremely suspect was going on with Zeus (revealed to be chaos king a few pages later).
If Pak had intended to showcase Zeus (and zeus alone, i.e., without the influence of mikaboshi) to be more powerful than Galactus ever expected, he could have done that whole entire scene outside of Chaos War.
He didn't.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Irrelevant. Galactus clearly expected Zeus to go down to a sufficiently powerful blast. Odin KO'd himself striking Galactus, who did not retaliate. Do you think Galactus couldn't KO Zeus by actually attacking him?
Its not really irrelevant , because according to Pak , Zeus was only slightly stronger than an average skyfather :
Nrama: Here’s a nicely specific question from zvelf on our forums: “So in Chaos War #3, was that Zeus fighting Galactus or Mikaboshi fighting Galactus or did Mikaboshi only enter Zeus' body when Hercules beat Zeus?”Van Lente: Greg?
Pak: I think that is Zeus fighting Galactus, but there is a point where Galactus says — I’m paraphrasing here — “Hey, you’re a little stronger than the average Skyfather.” So I think Zeus is definitely being augmented by the Chaos King. The Chaos King, as we discover — spoiler alert! — is using Zeus as a Trojan horse. So some of that incredible power that Zeus is displaying comes from the Chaos King.
At the same time, Zeus is no pushover, and it’s been a while since we’ve seen Zeus unleash his true, mighty self, and it was a ton of fun giving him a chance to do that. So don’t take it all away from him, friend. I do love my Zeus. I’m going to start saying “Zounds” more often, as a matter of fact. Just in everyday conversation.
Also , you should know as well as I do , that Galactus was living off a previous meal(Surfer was scouring the Galaxy finding a planet for him to eat , before their invasion of Asgard) , in the Mighty Thor arc .
The Galactus in Chaos War , on the other hand , got teleported away , by Herc , before he could even begin feeding on a planet . He was completely unfed , empty-belly and quite possibly starving in that arc . We all know how weak a starving Galactus can be .
I also don;t understand why you are even bothering to address my post , since I admitted in my response to Bieb , that Pak's logic is funny .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Its not really irrelevant , because according to Pak , Zeus was only slightly stronger than an average skyfather :Also , you should know as well as I do , that Galactus was living off a previous meal(Surfer was scouring the Galaxy finding a planet for him to eat , before their invasion of Asgard) , in the Mighty Thor arc .
The Galactus in Chaos War , on the other hand , got teleported away , by Herc , before he could even begin feeding on a planet . He was completely unfed , empty-belly and quite possibly starving in that arc . We all know how weak a starving Galactus can be .I also don;t understand why you are even bothering to address my post , since I admitted in my response to Bieb , that Pak's logic is funny .
Because, again, you're projecting a colloquialism as literal word. By that logic you would expect someone who paraphrases "yeah, so the Olympics are only a little harder than the regional competitions" in day-to-day conversations to *literally* mean slightly harder. Pak is obviously adopting a colloquial tone by saying "hey, so you're xy and z" when he's speaking for Galactus. And Galactus doesn't speak like that. Hence, colloquial language. It's really not hard to understand. Instead, Galactus was absolutely shocked that his attacks had ZERO effect. And obviously, Galactus had no reservations about confronting a skyfather *at all* even in a hungry state.
Pak isn't contradicting himself. He's using every-day colloquial exchange. Why else would he say "don't take it all away from Zeus" if he really meant "a little stronger?"
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Because, again, you're projecting a [b]colloquialism as literal word. By that logic you would expect someone who paraphrases "yeah, so the Olympics are only a little harder than the regional competitions" in day-to-day conversations to *literally* mean slightly harder. Pak is obviously adopting a colloquial tone by saying "hey, so you're xy and z" when he's speaking for Galactus. And Galactus doesn't speak like that. Hence, colloquial language. It's really not hard to understand. Instead, Galactus was absolutely shocked that his attacks had ZERO effect. And obviously, Galactus had no reservations about confronting a skyfather *at all* even in a hungry state.Pak isn't contradicting himself. He's using every-day colloquial exchange. Why else would he say "don't take it all away from Zeus" if he really meant "a little stronger?" [/B]
Again , these are Greg pak's own words :
So some of that incredible power that Zeus is displaying comes from the Chaos King.
"Don't take it all from him" can also imply Pak trying to push forward the idea that Zeus downing Galactus wasn't mainly the Chaos King's power , but mostly his own .
Galactus was already hungry , when Herc teleport-summoned him against his will . Its only reasonable to assume , based on how quickly his energy reserves dwindle , when they are significantly limited , that he progressed from hungry to starving in that instance .
In such a state , Galactus has been taken down by a sorcerer supreme , a host of the Phoenix force , and driven away by a high herald .Considering these showings , I wouldn't too much weight into Galactus' own self-hyperbole ,when he is in such a weakened condition .
Anyways , I don't understand why you are even bothering to reply to me since my stance has already changed , and is in agreement to your idea that Zeus was being massively amped by Mikaboshi .