I have and read the whole Preacher saga.
God in this universe is basically an idiot, (seriously)
and off his thrown he's vulnerable enough to kill.
SOK, other than killing angels, the devil and God while off his thrown,
is all I remember SOK doing,
other than that, he killed nobodies and failed to kill anything that was "undead."
SOK didn't face any Cosmics of any type that I remember,
he didn't even face heroes now that I recall.
If I remember correctly, I don't think there were even heroes in that universe.
Not all comic book universes are centered around cosmics.
Regardless, SoK killed demons in Hell. He killed Satan. He killed the entire Heavenly Host. He killed God. Anyone who honestly thinks that his guns failing to perma-kill a phuckin' Vampire early on in the series supersedes all of the aforementioned, then... I can't help but shake my head.
Meh, w/e. At least I'm far from the only one with that opinion. /shrug
Originally posted by Endless MikeWell there was Jesse Custer, he would be an antihero.
That Preacher-verse is a joke. ...
Other than a "devil" a goofy "god" and angels that didn't prove to be anything special,
no one of significance exists in that silly universe to oppose SOK,
I mean their "god" can be killed. 😂
In the Marvel-verse,
if you're the supreme being, or you the have the supreme power,
no one is touching you, no one can touch you.
That's the way it should be.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
SoK froze hell with his hatred in a spinoff though (this was before he got his guns)
Galactus was munching on a "hell" ...
Originally posted by Mr Master
Exactly, the Preacher-verse version of a "hell" ...Galactus was munching on a "hell" ...
There's "hell", and there's hell.
Galactus munching on Death herself is a more appropriate comparison. For all intents and purposes, Preacher-verse God and Devil are the supreme beings in that universe, and therefore there's no basis for comparing them with "lesser gods".. (As the supreme being of Peachers universe actually created that universe, while lesser gods did not in Marvel, TOOA did..)
It's like claiming killing Thor is analogous to killing Preacher-verse God.
Originally posted by cdtmThere's "hell", and there's hell.
Originally posted by cdtmGalactus munching on Death herself is a more appropriate
comparison. For all intents and purposes, Preacher-verse God and
Devil are the supreme beings in that universe, and therefore there's
no basis for comparing them with "lesser gods"..(As the supreme being of Peachers universe actually created that
universe, while lesser gods did not in Marvel, TOOA did..)
I mean, we got folks in here debating how someone can beat the
IG cause they believe it only has universal feats (not true of-course)
but still, so figure, although it makes you "God" "Supreme" "master of space/time,"
because the opponent has multi-universal or Multiversal feats,
this gives them an auto win against the IG,
or, the IG can hurt them cause they've manipulated multiversal energies.
Basically, within that one Reality the Preacher-verse,
"god" the "devil" and the "angels" did nothing spectacular.
In fact, the only excitement in the entire story is SOK killing them.
Even Preacher using "god's voice" was clowny and almost irrelevant,
since he used it only a few times and for stupid shit too.
The Preacher-verse "god" created that universe with his ass nailed to his thrown,
I have many Marvel cats who can create Universes with no need for a stipulation.
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btw.
Actually, "lesser gods" have created the Marvel-verse.
Infinity Being
Sise-Neg
Alien Entity/Reed
Entropy/Genis ~> Eternity/infinity
I would say Thanos/HOTI but he had TOAA's power so I'll let that pass.
They all created the Marvel Universe from nothingness,
so all of them were the Supreme being at the height of their power.
So all of them were untouchable, and none of them relied on an
outside source to maintain their position/power like the "god" of the
Preacher-verse who was a buffoon already and moreover killable
off his thrown.
...................................................
Anyway, Dracula ftw, or any other bone-head who controls the dead. 😛
Originally posted by cdtmCouldn't agree more.
There's "hell", and there's hell.Galactus munching on Death herself is a more appropriate comparison. For all intents and purposes, Preacher-verse God and Devil are the supreme beings in that universe, and therefore there's no basis for comparing them with "lesser gods".. (As the supreme being of Peachers universe actually created that universe, while lesser gods did not in Marvel, TOOA did..)
It's like claiming killing Thor is analogous to killing Preacher-verse God.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Oh come on. This is the same type of "logic" the Haruhitards use.
Don't know her, but from a quick Google, she sounds powerful enough to beat Thanos too. (She also sounds like an awful character. O_o)
I'm not saying one supreme being = another, I'm saying being the only supreme being of a universe has to count for something. At the least, it's proof they created said universe, as there's no one else around.
And that's many tiers above Thanos level.
In the SOK's case, he's the angel of death. Basically, that universes Black Racer, at the very least, if not comparable with a high tier cosmic like Endless Death or Marvel Death.
Black Racer level, that's above Thanos too, imo..
Originally posted by cdtm
[B]Don't know her, but from a quick Google, she sounds powerful enough to beat Thanos too.
That's not the point.
(She also sounds like an awful character. O_o)
This isn't the point either (despite being true).
I'm not saying one supreme being = another, I'm saying being the only supreme being of a universe has to count for something. At the least, it's proof they created said universe, as there's no one else around.
It was stated in supplemental material actually that Preacherverse God did create that universe, but my point is that he's not on the level of Marvel abstracts. Not saying Thanos is, either.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
That's not the point.This isn't the point either (despite being true).
It was stated in supplemental material actually that Preacherverse God did create that universe, but my point is that he's not on the level of Marvel abstracts. Not saying Thanos is, either.
Look at what I was responding to. Mr. Master lowballing Peacher-verse hell by claiming "Galactus was munching on hell". (Mephisto is pretty low tier, as hell lords go.)
In any event, the only point that "really" matters for this thread, is that Thanos loses. 😉
Originally posted by cdtmQuery: What exactly has Preacher Satan done, to put himself above Mephisto, or Thanos?
Mephisto is pretty low tier, as hell lords go
What has the Angelic Host done to put them above Thanos?
What has God off his Throne done, that puts him above Thanos?
Because, it's just the darnest thing, I always see people post "SoK killed God, Satan, and the entire Angelic Host, he wins", never "SoK killed God, Satan, and the entire Angelic Host, and this is impressive because..."
All the SoK supporters are doing is tossing around titles without any substance.