Originally posted by Nephthys
Is there any source that actually states that? The wiki just points to the chapters. Because she doesn't transition between a physical body and a spiritual one like Ichigo needs to, and since she doesn't, then her physical fists are enough to injure that Arrancar she fought.And she talks like a robot.... ¬_¬
Oh yea, one other thing- if you point out that a certain series isn't some uber-wanked thing based on a single quote that ignored how the actual series actually works, Effect becomes convinced you hate the show despite all other portrayals not even remotely lining up with such things.
I mean, he seriously thinks I hate Naruto because I don't think the ninja travel lightspeed or the Sage can control the universe.
Anyway Effect, have fun with another forum where absolutely no-one else believes your over-the-top readings.
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
I can see it being boring when you argue with people like Q99 who can't argue. You wouldn't believe half of the shit he posted on spacebattles. He shittalks Naruto like Kishimoto raped his mother in front of him as a child.
What!? You mean the person who invests more time in Naruto than any other manga I've seen him/her interested in hates it? O:
Never would have thought.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Originally posted by Q99
Oh yea, one other thing- if you point out that a certain series isn't some uber-wanked thing based on a single quote that ignored how the actual series actually works, Effect becomes convinced you hate the show despite all other portrayals not even remotely lining up with such things.
Originally posted by Q99 I mean, he seriously thinks I hate Naruto because I don't think the ninja travel lightspeed or the Sage can control the universe.
Originally posted by Q99 Anyway Effect, have fun with another forum where absolutely no-one else believes your over-the-top readings.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
What!? You mean the person who invests more time in Naruto than any other manga I've seen him/her interested in hates it? O:Never would have thought.
But he haven't read the databooks and he has forgotten most of the manga (or he willfully ignores it) so I don't know why you'd think he's a fan.
Yeah Q99, post some proof that you love Naruto! It's not like you've shown that you look up fanart for the show or are interested in the powerscaling to the point where you keep your own list or anything! What a hater.
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
He invests time in hating it. It's one of those obscure hate passion ordeals.But he haven't read the databooks and he has forgotten most of the manga (or he willfully ignores it) so I don't know why you'd think he's a fan.
I know right!?
It's like, Q99 had a Naruto style Roleplay battle with me! He/she must hate it so much to do that!
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
What you're replying to not what you wrote.
I'm pretty sure if you check page one you'll find that it is, but ok.
Either way, since you've admitted that physical matter can indeed harm shinigami and other spiritual beings then I don't see the issue here. If physical objects can hurt them, then so can other characters from different manga's.
Originally posted by Q99That's kind of funny, since you (Along with Aura) are one of the few "Naruto fans" (In terms of not just liking but, but genuinely thinking it is a well-written series) that can adequately defend it in regards of its value as a series.
Oh yea, one other thing- if you point out that a certain series isn't some uber-wanked thing based on a single quote that ignored how the actual series actually works, Effect becomes convinced you hate the show despite all other portrayals not even remotely lining up with such things.I mean, he seriously thinks I hate Naruto because I don't think the ninja travel lightspeed or the Sage can control the universe.
Anyway Effect, have fun with another forum where absolutely no-one else believes your over-the-top readings.
But you must hate it because you don't think it's teh uberest in the universe.
Instead of whining like a *****, post some proof.
Read the other stuff on the Creation of All Things page 🙂 I mean, the second half of the page presents the actual mechanics of the jutsu. And we know the Sage's history, how he was born into a world already in war, meaning he didn't create it, and how he didn't redeem the juubi during his lifeteam leaving the task to someone else, meaning there was stuff beyond him.
In other words, the only way to take things that literally is to ignore pretty much everything else we know about the Sage.
People can believe whatever they want, facts are facts and that's what I base my arguments on.
You also base your arguments on ignoring far more facts.
I mean, you'll ignore every visual in the show to argue that they're moving at lightspeed, or how normal matter works on reiatsu stuff repeatedly and the Fullbring arc which you quoted even notes everything has a spirit and thus everything can work.
It doesn't matter what actually happens in the show, if one or two things talk about it without actually showing it work in that fashion at any point, you'll take that as absolute law.
My not-ignoring-facts method of arguing may be boring to you, but those are the breaks.
NemeBro
That's kind of funny, since you (Along with Aura) are one of the few "Naruto fans" (In terms of not just liking but, but genuinely thinking it is a well-written series) that can adequately defend it in regards of its value as a series.But you must hate it because you don't think it's teh uberest in the universe.
Bingo 🙂
Originally posted by Nephthys
Either way, since you've admitted that physical matter can indeed harm shinigami and other spiritual beings then I don't see the issue here. If physical objects can hurt them, then so can other characters from different manga's.
So it doesn't matter whether or not that ball is thrown at light speed or if it was pitched by a human, because it has the same reiatsu. Even though a light speed ball would have infinite kinetically energy.
Goku would kill himself if he tried to punch Rukia. That's the consequence of not having reiatsu.
Hahahaha
Okay, I've had fun.
Look, the equivalency rule is already been in play for quite a while. It's not in the Rules(I don't think) but it's there.
As for your facts, have fun with them. No one here honestly thinks you have an argument. Kirin was stated to be completely unavoidable and was like 1000 times the speed of sound or something. If Haku really was a lightspeed guy, Kirin would be cake to dodge.
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Physical matter can't harm Shinigami. It's the reiatsu from the spirit of the physical matter that harms Shinigami.So it doesn't matter whether or not that ball is thrown at light speed or if it was pitched by a human, because it has the same reiatsu. Even though a light speed ball would have infinite kinetically energy.
Goku would kill himself if he tried to punch Rukia. That's the consequence of not having reiatsu.
And if reiatsu is present in all physical matter then whats the problem?
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Kirin was stated to be completely unavoidable and was like 1000 times the speed of sound or something. If Haku really was a lightspeed guy, Kirin would be cake to dodge.
"This lightspeed attack is impossible to evade."
http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=22993813&postcount=298
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
3rd data book, it's stated to be the speed of light."This lightspeed attack is impossible to evade."
http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=22993813&postcount=298
If Haku was moving at the same speed as Kirin, then Itachi should still have been able to avoid it. ^^
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
3rd data book, it's stated to be the speed of light."This lightspeed attack is impossible to evade."
http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=22993813&postcount=298
The manga directly states that the attack moves at the speed of lightning and that no-one can move that fast.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
If Haku was moving at the same speed as Kirin, then Itachi should still have been able to avoid it. ^^
Still for Itachi Kirin was so slow that he had plenty of time to summon Susanoo and tank it.