Well let's see...
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v59/c562/14.html
We see them being transported to the scene and their arrival blows up dust and has recoil, indicating mass.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Well let's see...http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v59/c562/14.html
We see them being transported to the scene and their arrival blows up dust and has recoil, indicating mass.
2. See the light in the final panel? If they were light speed the light wouldn't have reached them, if not the light was created before them. You don't start magically glowing when you're moving at LS.
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
But you sure like watching shows for little girls? Go bother someone else with your stupidity you pedophile creep.
You remind me of someone. Oh yeah...him.
The thread is done when I reveal this:
Regular humans can be attacked and harmed by invisible hollows. You have to have reiryoku in order to even experience the "spiritual". Regular humans, not "force sensitives", cannot detect the hollows. Yet the hollows can still attack/harm the regular humans.
Also: If both characters had to have reiatsu in order to even be considered as being on equal ground, then by the powers of logic, that means that a spiritual being can also not harm a purely physical one.
The end.
Originally posted by Q99
Notice the part where Final Form Ichigo is noted to specifically no longer have reiatsu and instead has a greater power. Likewise the sweeper is non-reiatsu and destroyers reiatsu beings.
That's a misrepresentation of what was actually going on.
There were two explanations given for why Ichigo was not giving off reiatsu:
1. Like Aizen before him, if the spiritual being has high enough spiritual power, lesser spiritual beings will not be able to detect it. Similar to a 2d being not being able to fully comprehend a 3d being.
2. Ichigo had improved his reiatsu control to such an extent that not a single bit of it leaked from his body: ultra-efficiency mode.
Number 1 is the conclusion Aizen had. Number 2 was his initial guess. Both could be right at the same time.
Originally posted by Nephthys
It's not an error that Zetsu flat out calls it impossible to dodge lightning. This makes no sense if a character as lowly as No-tails Naruto can move at lightspeed, hundreds of times faster than lightning. Zetsu is a member of a collection of the strongest ninja in the form of Akatsuki, if all Naruto ninja move that fast, he would know about it.Yet he claims its impossible.
Light does not move at hundreds of times faster than lightning. You're abusing science, man. Just horrible. 🙁
Naruto-verse is huge. Countries are larger than the size of RL Planetary Orbits. Means that ninjas must be like RL Mountain sized.
Of course, Edo Madara cannot crush lowly Hollow, as it cannot be hurt by anything without Reiatsu, and lowly Hollow was like Building level.
So, Eternal Stalemate. kruemelmonsteryn0
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Want to make an Edo Tensei Madara vs Hollow from First Chapter of Bleach thread now.Just to see.
Your favorite poster would not say that he Hollow would win because Madara uses spiritual constructs. Susano'o? Chakra is the same damn thing as rieryoku: just different names.
Hell, even the spirits, themselves, have 'spiritual energy/chakra': remember Dan? He was just a spirit but gave Tsunade chakra.
So, no, I would not pick a Naruto character: Effect Veiler would say Madara wins.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Your favorite poster would not say that he Hollow would win because Madara uses spiritual constructs. Susano'o? Chakra is the same damn thing as rieryoku: just different names.Hell, even the spirits, themselves, have 'spiritual energy/chakra': remember Dan? He was just a spirit but gave Tsunade chakra.
So, no, I would not pick a Naruto character: Effect Veiler would say Madara wins.
Originally posted by Effect Veiler
They can't be hurt unless the opponent have got reiatsu, and since no other manga got reiatsu. This also means that they will one-shot anything that doesn't have reiatsu.
Without an equivalance rule, Veiler believes that Lowly Hollow could one-shot anyone in Naruto-verse or DB-verse, despite the fact that Naruto-verse people are relativistic-FTL according to him/her.